SGC

Decided to go a little further with my car.

Added Renntech's new Ram Air system and hi-flow exhaust with 200 cell cats.

Just returned from PBIR.

The results:

60' - 1.682
330' - 4.591
1/8 - 6.917
MPH - 106.19
1000 - 8.928
1/4 - 10.620
MPH - 133.70

Thanks to Hartmut and all the guys at Renntech

blackbenzz

Wow congrats!!! So this intake and exhaust added 5mph and cut 0.3s off et? Any pics?

juicee63

I think Seldon's S600 was faster and quicker ...Heck of a run however, and tops the 65 list

blackbenzz

He ran a 10.58 but I believe SGC's run was without nitrous

juicee63

Well,

The record is the fastest quickest car, it matters not how it happens.

However,

I agree with you there should be a distinction, and SGC is close w/o nitrous but its still not the V12 record that belongs to Stephen

SGC

No nitrous on my car.

Ok, I'll take quickest and fastest Benz without nitrous.

SGC

Not taking anything away from his run; however, he used nitrous to run 10.58 @ 132. Best time I see posted for him without nitrous was 11.97 @ 114.7.

Again, I don't mind the title of fastest and quickest without nitrous.

TMC M5

Minor correction, Stephen ran an 11.251 @123.35mph without the nitrous.

Tom

ABALONE

Congrats!! Thats REALLY impressive!!

I'm such a big hater to "cheat-rous" so i'm glad you don't use it in your V12

Jakpro1

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!

I've been an SGC fan for years!

Miss ya on the 55 forums buddy. Congrats on the monster time!

SGC

Thanks Tom.

Thanks.

I give Stephen credit for having the sack to spray his car.



Thanks Jackpro1. Appreciate the kind words.

Pushing the envelope for my Mercedes brothers.

rondocap

Thanks for posting, that's really amazing!

Here is a question..do you guys feel that modding a car can possibly reduce the life of the car or important components in the long run? Like over 100,150, or 200k miles?

W220S430

dude your cl is soo sick!!! i saw your run on youtube glad to know that your on the forums!!

Oxygen

Congrats on the record!

Pictures of the said RENNtech ram air intake please? First time I'm hearing about it..

AMG1

One word, incredible.

Stephen04E55

SGC...great runs. I used the N20 because I had a setup that would work very easily and I very gradually worked my way up the ladder with the pill size for fuel and N20, etc. It is soooo smooth with the N20 you really wouldn't believe it unless you were in the car. Yeah, 11.25@123 is my best without N20.

sound 8

Fantastic, that's a great time.

MB_Forever

Awesome run SGC, I've been a fan of your car for a while now.... you truly impresses me everytime you take your car to the track

Another small correction here: your car is actually the quickest but not the fastest Mercedes without Nitrous. Alan ran 10.77x @ 135 mph in his E55 back in November of 2009.

TMC M5

I don't think a correction is in order. The trap speed is only an average of the last 66ft of the 1/4 mile run. Unless you have vbox/GPS proof for either car, you can not be certain that SGC did not reach a higher speed at the actual end of the 1/4 mile. Otherwise, if average speed is indicative of "fastest", then let me remind you that SGC's 10.62 is a faster average speed over the entire 1/4 mile.

Also, SGC's car has the highest 1 mile speed of any Mercedes Benz (including the SLR) at 185+mph.

Tom

MB_Forever

Sorry, but I disagree. Either way, based on your argument, a correction is in order. You said since a vbox/GPS was not available for either car, then it would be hard to prove who reached a higher speed at the end of the 1/4 mile. This would mean, SGC still can not claim the "fastest" and neither can Alan since both don't have proof that they did not reach a higher speed. Even if one of them did have the performance box, it would still not be enough. So either way, both would not be able to claim the title.

However, I was just going by what's available to us from the 1/4 mile tracks. They don't really give us the average speed over the entire 1/4 mile. They only give us the average speed over the last 66 feet as you mentioned. NHRA decided to use (and accept) this as trap speed, and so that's what I was going by. Essentially, anybody can break-up the run and choose a category that their car is really good at. But speaking entirely based on provided trap speeds by the track, Alan has the fastest non-nitrous Benz as record and witnessed by many members on here.

On another note, we've taken the performance box with us to the track a couple of times, and it has mostly read a bit higher than the track's average speed. However, on that particular 135 mph run, I don't believe we had the performance box on us.

Again, I (by no means) am trying to take anything away from SGC's accomplishment or how great his car is; on the contrary, I'm a big fan and am very impressed with his work, his car, and dedication to the sport. The next few months leading up to this fall will be very interesting as I feel that the overall Mercedes record, which was at the top for so long, will be broken by not one but multiple cars from different parts of the U.S. and SGC is one of them

TMC M5

The average speed of a 1/4 mile run can be calculated by using the elapsed time:

SGC: 10.62 = 84.746mph avg speed
Alan: 10.77 = 83.566mph avg speed

The average speed doesn't tell the whole story. I think SGC can still claim "fastest" non-nitrous car as he has a verified 185+mph mile run.

Tom

bassn_07

It's all good guys and records don't mean much to me anyways. Thanks Mo for standing up for my times and traps but this whole fastest thing is becoming somewhat comical. It's never meant anything to me and my intentions were never to set a "MB record". Really, just think about it for a second, in the end what do we get out of it? Fame for a second on some website (Internet trophy that doesn't exist" with a bunch of haters constantly bickering about how legit your time really is. Don't need nor do I want it.

In the end the only thing that really matters is if I'm satisfied with my times or not. I totally appreciate your constant support but please just let them have it. It's something that's not worth arguing or debating about because it really doesn't mean anything.

Nice run SGC and I look forward to seeing faster and quicker times from your beast. Us little E55 guys will just hide in the corner..... Good luck and be safe!

MB_Forever

Agreed. He can definitely claim the "fastest" in the mile but this discussion was only regarding the 1/4 mile run .... Also, I've seen E55s go 195+ mph in 2 to 3 miles and they too can claim that they are "fastest" non-nitrous Mercedes in the 3 mile, and so forth....

In the end, based on how NHRA measures trap speeds (average over the last 66 feet), and as recorded by a sanctioned NHRA track, Alan's run is the "fastest" non-nitrous Mercedes pass. But as for the total average speed over the entire 1/4 mile, you are correct, SGC's pass is the "fastest" non-nitrous Mercedes pass. And finally as for who reached an actual higher trap-speed at the end of the 1/4 mile, based on my experience, the actual trap speed has usually been higher than the recorded trap speeds printed on timeslips, which means, SGC and Alan both trapped higher than what their timeslips shows. Consequently, however, this would still give a slight edge to Alan's pass.

Anyways, congrats to both cars and I'm sure we'll see both beasts go much quicker and much faster very soon....

No problem my friend..... out of respect for Alan, I will not post anymore comments regarding the title dispute issue for this run.

Congrats to both cars and good luck in future passes