I currently have a 2007 E63,,,love the car, BUT, I have a chance to buy a 2007 S65 for about $110,000. Car has about 25,000 miles on it have most if not all of the options,,,question,,,since I know nothing about the S65, I mean in terms of mechanical,,,what can I expect in the way of milage, highway, city, maintenance, etc. My car has not given me any issues, but the need for torque is there....! I ask my friends for their opinion.....!!

 

How many miles? $110k seems a bit high. One thing about these cars, especially the S65 - is that they depreciate very quickly, and due to their higher starting price, it's even steeper than something like an e63. 2006 S65's are selling for a fraction of their original price now. (Granted, the new body style came out 1 year after)

Having said that, the S65 is really an awesome car - amazingly powerful engine and loads of torque. Hard to put it all down and get traction, but when it hooks, it's great. In terms of maintenance, the S classes are generally reliable but with time there are issues that pop up, and given that they are packed with more technology and parts than most of the other classes, they tend to have more that can go wrong.

 

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The biggest maintenance concern are the brake rotors and pads. Doing all 4 corners could be $6K at the stealership. Otherwise oil changes and Service A and B are probably not much different from your E63. I haven't heard too many grumblings about the 2007 and newer ABC suspension.

Tom

 

You have to have a reason to buy it. When I bought a CL65 it was to own
the most powerful 4 seat production car in the world, the exclusivity and of course the power. The trouble is you already have a very fast car, sure the 65 is quicker, but it would be far more impressive to go from an E350 to a S65
limo. Do you need extra room, the S has far more space, but will probably handle worse than the E. As far as mileage, it's not something you think about with these sort of cars. They are both fine for everyday use, but when I go out in my S600 there is always that feeling that I should be driving something smaller, the E doesn't feel that way, I was happy to drive my E55 with just me a lot of the time. So more space, more exclusivity, more torque,
but imo less nimble. You must drive first, and always buy a car with MB warranty.

 

I would carefully contemplate the purchase, consider the actual benefits between the two automobiles. Though the S65 will pull away from the E63 from 70 on up, in real world conditions the E63 will be nearly as fast as the S65 in terms of off the line street light to street light enjoyment. Plus that menacing V8 has a great sound to it. Far louder than the S65.

 

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it is an apples and oranges discussion that can only be answered by you..

what are your needs? the S65 has a great rear seat only bested by a maybach. the torque is great but it is long, (not nimble) heavy and drinks gas like nothing else i have ever driven. but it's all about power and luxury..

the E63 is a great car. fast, fairly sporty with a good power (although i prefer the 55 motor) and fun to drive.

they are two different cars.

bottom line: you must drive a S65 to make an informed decision.

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The 0-60 times and quarter mile times are actually very close for the E63 and S65. The S65 has a lot more power and torque, but also much more weight - so it almost evens them out. Now, the feeling of both due to the engines is obviously different, so you have to drive and see what you like. I think from certain speeds and passing times the S65 will be faster though, when it's already in motion...it's a lot of horsepower and torque at play.

The S65 is definitely more exclusive - it's pretty much the top of the line Mercedes save 1-2 of the "super" cars. (Like the SLR, Black series SL, etc)

 

The 2007 S65 (W221) looks great...but it gained a lot of weight...it comes in at a portly 5,035lbs (up from 4,850lbs for the W220). It makes my CL65 seem light at 4,650lbs.

As others have said, test drive it and find out for yourself if it worth the $'s and hassles.

Tom

 

Thanks to all that have responded....by the way,,,all of you guys sound like my wife... (in good way!!) . I think that I will keep my E63. I just love the torque involved,,but to pay $110,000 for something that might give me an added push in the back,,,might not be the smartest thing to do now. Again, thanks for all of your level headed replies,,,I knew I could count on you guys to give the the straight scoop!!!!

 

Tom, Thanks for going the extra mile to give me a look at other "65" models and their prices!!

 

If you really wanted an S65 and didn't want to spend that much, you could find a nice 2006. They are cheap now, in the 40k range...just the older body style w220. (Which still looks fantastic and fairly rare in the S65 style.)

But, anyway I'm not sure I'd trade an E63 for that - you already have a great car, just enjoy it!

 

I have an 07 e63 I leased and just bought an 06 s65 with a lot less miles. I still have the e63 and have done a fair amount of back-to-back driving. They are very different beasties. I mirror most of what is said, but if you want to call me, I would be glad to discuss each of their virtues and weaknesses that I have uncovered in the 3 months of S65 ownership. My wife likes them both, but prefers driving the e63, being driven around by me in the S65. She is afraid of the S, but I find her doing burnouts in our neighborhood in the E. Strange, the S is just a bit more intimidating. It's pretty bada$$. PM me if you want my number. Z

 

LOL, I wish I have this kind of choices where I live....at that price too.

 

[QUOTE=Zax63;3978041]I have an 07 e63 I leased and just bought an 06 s65 with a lot less miles. I still have the e63 and have done a fair amount of back-to-back driving. They are very different beasties. I mirror most of what is said, but if you want to call me, I would be glad to discuss each of their virtues and weaknesses that I have uncovered in the 3 months of S65 ownership. My wife likes them both, but prefers driving the e63, being driven around by me in the S65. She is afraid of the S, but I find her doing burnouts in our neighborhood in the E. Strange, the S is just a bit more intimidating. It's pretty bada$$. PM me if you want my number. Z[/QU

Thanks for the offer, however, my wife kind of decided for me,,,,if you know what I mean. She did leave the option of getting one after the warranty runs out on our "E". I have a 5 year/100000 mile warranty that I purchased, so to give up my E63, and the warranty which expires in 2012,,,and to plop down an additional 40,000-60,000 might not be the smartest move. My wife drives the "E" mostly becasue I have a company car that I use during the week. Again, you guys have also helped get the "wants" out of my system!!

 

Hello,

I know you've already made the decision to NOT pull the trigger.
Just wanted to share my thoughts and touch upon it from a different perspective than horse power and torque.

I just picked up an '08 last month.

Gas wise....freeway gets me about 17.8 as I cruised it to LA @ 79 all the way.
Overall street and freeway will average around 13.
Not too bad....considering the Italian Pony gets about 10 if I'm lucky regardless of freeway or street.

I never owned an E because imho, a sedan should be roomy....so I had a couple of S55's (got shafted on naturally aspirated, then went on to supercharged).
The thing about AMG for me is that it seemed better built than the ordinary MBZs. I didn't have nearly as many problems than colleagues with non AMGs. Overall, it felt more solid.
Before I get off track...." roomy" I know a lot of people will say the rear seats are for your passengers....who cares...NOT true...I've found myself in the back several times doing paperwork as my wife drove and it was great!
Having a baby adds additional luggage and now we barely fit lol.
The S65 seems to be have more room than the S55/old model
I swayed away from the 63s because of the naturally aspirated engines and rumors of a turbo coming back in 2008 when I actually ordered a S63 and walked away from it.
Thank God! News broke out with the twin turbos coming out spring of '10.
Guess what? I have a good feeling all the 63s are gonna tank like what had happened to me back in '02 when supercharged came out in '03.

I went for the S65 not only for the room, but also for the luxury.
Overall, there's nothing like it out there.
One of the most luxurious sedans in the world with the power there if you need to use it.
What more can you ask for?
The S65 luxury interior is impeccable with its napa leather going from the door panels all the way up to the dash.
The seats are extremely comfortable with massage available for all the seats (front and rear).
For the most part....it's got everything imaginable...at least for now.

Yeah...it may be a little bigger than what some people are use to.
Yeah...it 's got a lot of torque
etc...etc...

but at the end of the day....once you get to know your vehicle....it's all good.

btw....for those that are looking into an '08....blind spot assist didn't come out until later production.

It's extremely useful!

Cheers!

 

Do you have the latest E63. I was picking my SL up after it's first service and there was a brand new E63, the one with 4 square exhaust fitted into the
carbon fibre bottom edge and a carbon fibre spoiler. I feel really tempted to change my S600 because it looks sooooooooooooo good. The trouble is my Dad's 88 and likes the S600 comfort and leg room. Mind you it's far better looking than the E63 I saw when they first came out.
You know when something keeps popping in your brain!! and it is.

 

The e63 is a great car, love the handling. If you want more torque however test drive a 65. That price tag will be put in perspective and seem like a bargain. I recently purchased a s65 with nearly exact specs as yours, I am very happy with my purchase.

 

I agree with rslpartners comments. also wanted to second that the gas mileage isnt that bad - about 13 average with lots of city and stop and go driving. this is 2 mpg worse than my jag s-type r was getting in the same driving conditions...

I have had an m5 in the past and also agree that comparing an E to an S is completely different. so I will have to second what someone else said, unless you WANT and feel like you MUST have a 65, it probably isnt the car for you.

And lastly, if you are looking to pay $110k for an 07, give me a call and I will be happy to sell you a super clean one for $105k, save you 5k and I will make $15k in the meantime. as others have said, 07s should run a hell of a lot cheaper than $110k.

 

Can anyone tell me the weights of E55 and E63 ?

 

According to these links the E55 weighs in at 4,087lbs and the E63 weighs in at 4,035lbs.

http://www.intellichoice.com/reports...cedes-Benz/E55

http://www.intellichoice.com/reports...cedes-Benz/E63

Tom

 

car and driver has the e55 at 4,237 lbs which is a lot closer to what i remember reading in the past and the e63 is 4,167 lbs.

 

That sounds more "right"...but I checked a couple of online car research databases (yahoo, intellichoice) and they all listed the lower weights...

Tom

 

Tom,

My guess is the research databases show base weight and magazines get well optioned out cars...

Otherwise how do you explain that the s65 weights +600 lbs relative to the s55...

 

The S65 needs additional underbody/chassis strengthening with steel to carry the extra weight and size of an S65 owner's cajones...

Tom

 

good point, forgot about that and those....