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04-21-2010, 09:41 PM
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2011 65 Series
MB just announced that the Maybach 57/62S will have a power hike of about 20hp for 2011.
Since 65 Series had the same engine as the Maybach S I figure the same upgrade should apply?
Since 65 Series had the same engine as the Maybach S I figure the same upgrade should apply?
04-22-2010, 12:48 AM
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Wouldn't be surprised if '11 S/CL65 has 65Blk-like 660hp and downshift blips....and ceramic brakes (given CCB are options on even $100K E63...and $185K SLS)...though w/AutoBrakeDrying and BrakeAssistPlus/PreSafe, unlike PCCB/CCM of VW/Fiat
Maybachs, like VW Bents or BMW Rolls, are POS from any engineering standpoint, just sold to clueless Luddites in 3rdWorld or rappers/scammers in NYC/BH/FL seeking an automotive man-purse...so not clear engineering changes to dying Maybach line can be extrapolated to far more profitable $200K+ AMGs based on latest tech platforms
Maybachs, like VW Bents or BMW Rolls, are POS from any engineering standpoint, just sold to clueless Luddites in 3rdWorld or rappers/scammers in NYC/BH/FL seeking an automotive man-purse...so not clear engineering changes to dying Maybach line can be extrapolated to far more profitable $200K+ AMGs based on latest tech platforms
04-22-2010, 07:37 AM
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Wouldn't be surprised if '11 S/CL65 has 65Blk-like 660hp and downshift blips....and ceramic brakes (given CCB are options on even $100K E63...and $185K SLS)...though w/AutoBrakeDrying and BrakeAssistPlus/PreSafe, unlike PCCB/CCM of VW/Fiat
Maybachs, like VW Bents or BMW Rolls, are POS from any engineering standpoint, just sold to clueless Luddites in 3rdWorld or rappers/scammers in NYC/BH/FL seeking an automotive man-purse...so not clear engineering changes to dying Maybach line can be extrapolated to far more profitable $200K+ AMGs based on latest tech platforms
Maybachs, like VW Bents or BMW Rolls, are POS from any engineering standpoint, just sold to clueless Luddites in 3rdWorld or rappers/scammers in NYC/BH/FL seeking an automotive man-purse...so not clear engineering changes to dying Maybach line can be extrapolated to far more profitable $200K+ AMGs based on latest tech platforms
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Wouldn't be surprised if '11 S/CL65 has 65Blk-like 660hp and downshift blips....and ceramic brakes (given CCB are options on even $100K E63...and $185K SLS)...though w/AutoBrakeDrying and BrakeAssistPlus/PreSafe, unlike PCCB/CCM of VW/Fiat
Maybachs, like VW Bents or BMW Rolls, are POS from any engineering standpoint, just sold to clueless Luddites in 3rdWorld or rappers/scammers in NYC/BH/FL seeking an automotive man-purse...so not clear engineering changes to dying Maybach line can be extrapolated to far more profitable $200K+ AMGs based on latest tech platforms
Maybachs, like VW Bents or BMW Rolls, are POS from any engineering standpoint, just sold to clueless Luddites in 3rdWorld or rappers/scammers in NYC/BH/FL seeking an automotive man-purse...so not clear engineering changes to dying Maybach line can be extrapolated to far more profitable $200K+ AMGs based on latest tech platforms
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It's confirmed,S65/CL65 will get a boost to 621hp,no torque change.
That TT S/CL63 with perf.pckge looks mighty attractive now,with weight savings(vs 65) offsetting power difference but benefiting agility and handling.
$50k savings additional bonus....
That TT S/CL63 with perf.pckge looks mighty attractive now,with weight savings(vs 65) offsetting power difference but benefiting agility and handling.
$50k savings additional bonus....
06-20-2010, 07:36 PM
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06-20-2010, 10:27 PM
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They have nothing to gain by matching the output of the Bentley,if they tried to compete against it they could easily eclipse that number with a minimum of effort.
Frankly,I'm a bit surprised they were so conservative with that paltry 17hp hike,the new 63TT will surely eat a lot of potential 65 sales.
It did mine....
06-25-2010, 12:03 PM
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I believe so.
They have nothing to gain by matching the output of the Bentley,if they tried to compete against it they could easily eclipse that number with a minimum of effort.
Frankly,I'm a bit surprised they were so conservative with that paltry 17hp hike,the new 63TT will surely eat a lot of potential 65 sales.
It did mine....
They have nothing to gain by matching the output of the Bentley,if they tried to compete against it they could easily eclipse that number with a minimum of effort.
Frankly,I'm a bit surprised they were so conservative with that paltry 17hp hike,the new 63TT will surely eat a lot of potential 65 sales.
It did mine....
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06-25-2010, 02:27 PM
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See I view it more than a coincidence. As you stated, the engine can easily be tweeked to 700+hp. So why go from 604hp SAE to 621hp SAE?
I walked into a Bentley dealership near my work last year to show my buddy the Continental Supersport that they had on display. The car wasn't there (at the time I was shocked to see it a couple of days before when I drove by, apparently it was the show car making its way through the Bentley dealer network) but I spoke to a salesman about it. When I mentioned to my buddy that my CL65 had more power than the Supersport, the dealer quickly retorted that the Supersport had 621hp which was more than a CL65. I then informed him that I had a Kleemann tune and was making more along the lines of 680 crank hp, but the Supersport was still very impressive. I am sure that this Bentley dealer was not the only one bragging that the Supersport was sporting more power than the MB/Maybach V12 Biturbo engine. I am sure the 621hp was MB's passive-aggressive way of "competitive marketing".
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I walked into a Bentley dealership near my work last year to show my buddy the Continental Supersport that they had on display. The car wasn't there (at the time I was shocked to see it a couple of days before when I drove by, apparently it was the show car making its way through the Bentley dealer network) but I spoke to a salesman about it. When I mentioned to my buddy that my CL65 had more power than the Supersport, the dealer quickly retorted that the Supersport had 621hp which was more than a CL65. I then informed him that I had a Kleemann tune and was making more along the lines of 680 crank hp, but the Supersport was still very impressive. I am sure that this Bentley dealer was not the only one bragging that the Supersport was sporting more power than the MB/Maybach V12 Biturbo engine. I am sure the 621hp was MB's passive-aggressive way of "competitive marketing".
Tom
