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Old 10-01-2010, 06:56 PM
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Question S63 TT vs 57S

I have an S63 TT Designo (in/out),perf. pckge ,scheduled for early December delivery but just got offered an '06 Maybach 57S Black/Black with only 9k miles and extended warranty for 3 years for the same $$.
What to do?
Magnificent car but in this economy and "bash the wealthy" attitude from every direction ,it scares me a bit as too ostentatious.
What say you?
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please choose your preferred response.

the S63 is such a pauper's car no one will ever know it was almost a Maybach

or

poor b@st@rd can only afford a *used* Maybach.

or

Did you get a bowl of soup with that S63?
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The Maybach will be a boring car.
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Good question that's gotten a lot of useless answers thus far.

I'd stick with your S63 order (good job on the essential perf pkg). Reasons being-

1. The Maybach is old tech (W220 underpinnings and switchgear)
2. The 57 is kind of in "no man's land" and only the 62S makes sense to me
3. It'd be used rather than new

Of course the Maybach is much rarer but the bi-turbo S63s will take a fair while after release to become dime a dozen and flying under the radar is always a preference of mine. Perhaps rent a Maybach for a few days to get it out of your system but spend the real money on the forthcoming W221 AMG.

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Weighing in ..

my opinion:

S63

If you're being driven, Maybach, but 62S .. which isn't an option you're putting out there.

if you're driving (which it sounds like you are), S63 all way.

if you get the Maybach and drive it, doesn't that kind of make you a chauffuer?

Of course, I have neither, and in the end you should always get what makes you happy!
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
Good question that's gotten a lot of useless answers thus far.

I'd stick with your S63 order (good job on the essential perf pkg). Reasons being-

1. The Maybach is old tech (W220 underpinnings and switchgear)
2. The 57 is kind of in "no man's land" and only the 62S makes sense to me
3. It'd be used rather than new

Of course the Maybach is much rarer but the bi-turbo S63s will take a fair while after release to become dime a dozen and flying under the radar is always a preference of mine. Perhaps rent a Maybach for a few days to get it out of your system but spend the real money on the forthcoming W221 AMG.
+1

I totally agree.

I usually expect to see a chauffuer at the helm of a Maybach. The 57S is the "sporty" Maybach, but it is still 225.5" ...that is 19" longer than the S63.. and will likely weigh in over 1K pounds heavier than the new S63...

I say get the S63 and don't look back.

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Thanks for honest answer and comments,very much in line with my own thinking after all..
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i don't know if it's such a slam dunk..

the maybach is RARE and has the bling, valet parking would be great in the city and it has a motor from GOD.

it would probably be the safest car for your family (if you hit something) along with being the most luxurious.

it will attract as much attention as a ferrari. it will draw a crowd.





the S63 will be quicker and much sportier (including accident avoidance) but won't have 738 lb-ft. torque.

it's MB's latest, greatest thing but there will be a bunch of them..

driving the 62 is like driving a limo because it is. but the back seats in the 62 are the best in the biz. like flying first class internationally.

are you driving the car or do you have a driver.. if you are driving it, apples and oranges.

i am sure that your family would appreciate the 57 and it's rear seat area more than you will when driving a 57.

drive the 57..


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This response may get thrown in with the "useless answer" group which I found quite humorous by the way, but will the average "bash the wealthy" kind of guy know the difference between a Maybach and a big beautiful S63 Biturbo? I suspect not. Go with the new biturbo.
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Originally Posted by JR.
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the S63 will be quicker and much sportier (including accident avoidance) but won't have 738 lb-ft. torque.
I think you are underestimating both the power of the new S63 Biturbo and the girth of the Mayback 57S. The S63 brings 563hp and 664lbs-ft of torque and weighs roughly 5,000 lbs. Yes, the Maybach 57S has 604hp and 738lbs-ft of torque, but has to move OVER 6,000 lbs. That means that the S63 has power to weight ratios: 8.88lbs/hp and 7.53lbs/lbs-ft of torque. Compare that to the Maybach's 9.93lbs/hp and 8.13lbs/lbs-ft of torque. So from a power to weight ratio, the S63 "out-torques" the Maybach 57S.

Yes, the Maybach 57S has more presence.But I can kind of understand some of the apprehension on the "image" front. It is funny. A friend of mine works for a company over here where the CEO was driving a Maybach to work everyday a few years back. Then we went through that period of very high gas prices a couple years ago. The CEO started driving a Prius to work. It is laughable because he obviously could afford the gas...what he probably couldn't "afford" was the "bad" image among the environmental nuts.

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Hm, this is a an interesting dilemma! If you were comparing the Maybach 57S to the previous S63 AMG, then hands down the Maybach - because the performance would be similar so the Maybach wins on the other fronts, like rarity and exclusivity.

But...the new TT 2011 S63 AMG, with more horsepower and torque than its predecessor, will undoubtedly be more spirited to drive and faster. Sure, it is not as exclusive as the Maybach, but it is newer technology and not based on the W220 as the Maybach is. Plus, it will be brand new for the same price. The Maybach's most impressive attributes to me, are quite frankly the rear seats - but the 62 wins here over the 57. The ride and noise are also sublime. Aside from that, for autobahn burning fun, the TT S63 wins hands down.
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WSH is prepping his monologue about how dangerous that Maybach is with it's aging, non functional safety systems. He also thinks you should stick with the S63 because it will still have 8+ months of useful life left before you take delivery.

I say stick with the 63. If you think S class maintenance and repairs are expensive, try breaking a cupholder or the electrically controlled glovebox in the Maybach.

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Originally Posted by nick 55
WSH is prepping his monologue about how dangerous that Maybach is with it's aging, non functional safety systems. He also thinks you should stick with the S63 because it will still have 8+ months of useful life left before you take delivery.

I say stick with the 63. If you think S class maintenance and repairs are expensive, try breaking a cupholder or the electrically controlled glovebox in the Maybach.

Nick
He already stated in another thread that the new S63 has inferior plasticky interior and technologically is already outdated.
He also mentioned it's inadequate torque ,especially comparing to the vastly superior 65 series (that he is of course currently,allegedly driving)
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Originally Posted by nick 55
If you think S class maintenance and repairs are expensive, try breaking a cupholder or the electrically controlled glovebox in the Maybach.

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hey Nick..

i didn't think that $1299. to replace both batteries in a 62 was a bad price ! ?

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That does bring up one of the better points - maintenance on the Maybach will undoubtedly be more expensive as from what I've seen, many items/systems on it seem to be much more expensive than on a regular S class. That makes sense - look at its price new compared to the S63.
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Originally Posted by JR.
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hey Nick..

i didn't think that $1299. to replace both batteries in a 62 was a bad price ! ?

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You have a 62? I like them for what they are, I think it looks sharper than the Phantom, and even though it doesn't have a "spirit of ecstasy" on the hood, I think it has a commanding presence.

Where do you have it serviced? My comment about the price of service is more regarding repairs. Maintenance will be right there with an S600, since it has the same basic powertrain. Brakes will cost more, but not out of this world.

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Originally Posted by nick 55
You have a 62? I like them for what they are, I think it looks sharper than the Phantom, and even though it doesn't have a "spirit of ecstasy" on the hood, I think it has a commanding presence.

Where do you have it serviced? My comment about the price of service is more regarding repairs. Maintenance will be right there with an S600, since it has the same basic powertrain. Brakes will cost more, but not out of this world.

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had a 62, just went to Italy.. cool car but you need a driver and it needed more power.. i like my S65 better.

i prefer the design of the phantom but the 62 does have a presence. we parked it next to our tricked 430 in sobe and the 62 drew more attention.

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Originally Posted by JR.
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had a 62, just went to Italy.. cool car but you need a driver and it needed more power.. i like my S65 better.



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That's because you skimped on getting the 62"S" version you poor bast***...
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That's because you skimped on getting the 62"S" version you poor bast***...


haaaaaa..


times are TOUGH ..... i took what the market offered


.. look at this BACK seat...


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Looks wise, I prefer the Phantom - even though I like the interior, especially the bach seat of the Maybach better. (No pun intended! )

In Manhattan, you have so many S classes rolling around, that even the Maybach's blend in. I was in Manhattan today, and saw 2 62's. Even in Manhattan, the Rolls Royce Phantom has a very strong presence - not only are they the only ones around, but they have that extra charm that the Maybach lacks. (That's part of the appeal of the Maybach, it is understated on the outside but luxurious inside.)
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It's strange to see people (non chauffeurs) driving any type of Maybach.

Even 57S are used with chauffeurs here in NYC. I like them and see loads of them, but I'd stick with the S63 unless you employ a chauffeur.
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I would suggest being in the brand new sl63 TT.

It depends on the maybach though. Ive sat in 2.. one was a lightly optioned and one heavily optioned. It makes a HUGE difference in these cars.
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s63, maybachs are for chauffeurs.

The phantom is my preference as well for the backseat, even if its not as comfy as the bach.


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