AMG Crate engine
11-06-2013, 01:14 PM
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AMG Crate engine
so in my curiosity about AMG offering crate motors i simply emailed AMG directly, they told me that they cant help me directly because the distribution of mercedes engines and cars is up to Diamler AG and would have to contact the dealership to work with my request. so you can get a crate AMG motor but thru dealerships only, they mention the dealer is there face to the customer and would be happy to help.
11-06-2013, 02:46 PM
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so in my curiosity about AMG offering crate motors i simply emailed AMG directly, they told me that they cant help me directly because the distribution of mercedes engines and cars is up to Diamler AG and would have to contact the dealership to work with my request. so you can get a crate AMG motor but thru dealerships only, they mention the dealer is there face to the customer and would be happy to help.
Just a crazy question why would you ask??? I hope you don't need one, I'm guessing the cost would exceed the car's value.
11-07-2013, 06:21 AM
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2006 s65. Ford Excursion 6.0. Pontiac GTO convertible. Porsche 944 Turbo SCCA car. Wife-E550 and 968
so in my curiosity about AMG offering crate motors i simply emailed AMG directly, they told me that they cant help me directly because the distribution of mercedes engines and cars is up to Diamler AG and would have to contact the dealership to work with my request. so you can get a crate AMG motor but thru dealerships only, they mention the dealer is there face to the customer and would be happy to help.
Or, for something more daily drivable:
http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/a...572-tt-cdd.pdf
Too bad I couldn't convince the folks over at MB CPO!
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11-07-2013, 10:26 AM
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i dont have a blown motor, runs like a dream. im just trying to convince my brother into swapping out the motor in his C300
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2006 s65. Ford Excursion 6.0. Pontiac GTO convertible. Porsche 944 Turbo SCCA car. Wife-E550 and 968
You have subsequently started a new thread stating "people are the problem", but if I remember correctly your car has thrown a series of check engine lights and also has needed an ignition coil pack, also consumes some oil. I take excellent care of my 65, I do drive it hard on occasion but nothing beyond the cars design parameters. I always warm it up and down, I change the oil every 5k miles, etc. I bought the car with a hair over 9k miles on it, and at the time it had been in to the shop a number of times according to the VMI for check engine lights. From the beginning the MB mechanic began chasing the CEL. New plugs, new coil packs, etc. at the same time, I was consuming approximately 1 quart every 1300 miles, a consumpsion rate I thought was astounding for a nearly new motor. The Dealer assured me that it was "Normal". I have a friend who was a tech at another dealer, and he told me to never ever ever add oil myself, always take it to the dealer and keep a record of consumption. The consumption gradually crept higher. In addition to having every single ABC component replaced under warranty (except for one strut, oddly) I began to notice that under any throttle application beyond 80 percent, I'd get a CEL. Long story short, I began making noise about motor replacement very early, kept fastidious records, tracked CEL's, and had my motor replaced under Warranty 2 years ago with 38k miles on the clock. Haven't seen a CEL since, burn a quart every 5k now, and drive the car exactly the same. So while I agree with you that sometime it is the owner...Sometimes it's just the motor that was hand built that day. And as Shardul says, there are a lot of moving parts to maintain and as a corollary to break.
11-07-2013, 01:38 PM
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You have subsequently started a new thread stating "people are the problem", but if I remember correctly your car has thrown a series of check engine lights and also has needed an ignition coil pack, also consumes some oil. I take excellent care of my 65, I do drive it hard on occasion but nothing beyond the cars design parameters. I always warm it up and down, I change the oil every 5k miles, etc. I bought the car with a hair over 9k miles on it, and at the time it had been in to the shop a number of times according to the VMI for check engine lights. From the beginning the MB mechanic began chasing the CEL. New plugs, new coil packs, etc. at the same time, I was consuming approximately 1 quart every 1300 miles, a consumpsion rate I thought was astounding for a nearly new motor. The Dealer assured me that it was "Normal". I have a friend who was a tech at another dealer, and he told me to never ever ever add oil myself, always take it to the dealer and keep a record of consumption. The consumption gradually crept higher. In addition to having every single ABC component replaced under warranty (except for one strut, oddly) I began to notice that under any throttle application beyond 80 percent, I'd get a CEL. Long story short, I began making noise about motor replacement very early, kept fastidious records, tracked CEL's, and had my motor replaced under Warranty 2 years ago with 38k miles on the clock. Haven't seen a CEL since, burn a quart every 5k now, and drive the car exactly the same. So while I agree with you that sometime it is the owner...Sometimes it's just the motor that was hand built that day. And as Shardul says, there are a lot of moving parts to maintain and as a corollary to break.
11-07-2013, 03:12 PM
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It took two months of wrangling with MB to get the motor.
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11-07-2013, 04:10 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BRAND-NEW-V12-BI-TURBO-AMG65-AMG-65-CL65-S65-M275-series-/151149091054?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23313018ee&vxp=mtr
OK guys here you go I found a deal for someone looking. Not to take the thread in a different direction, but regardless of drunken assembly or user abuse, what are the know causes of failure? Shardul has provided higher mileage and cylinder wall scoring to be a problem and too much hot sauce, (Nitrous) to be issues. Zax63, was there ever any conclusion established for the oil consumption/blow-by? Rings? Based on the low mileage its hard to include it as a common failure, I was just curious.
OK guys here you go I found a deal for someone looking. Not to take the thread in a different direction, but regardless of drunken assembly or user abuse, what are the know causes of failure? Shardul has provided higher mileage and cylinder wall scoring to be a problem and too much hot sauce, (Nitrous) to be issues. Zax63, was there ever any conclusion established for the oil consumption/blow-by? Rings? Based on the low mileage its hard to include it as a common failure, I was just curious.
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Mercedes Brand New V12 Bi Turbo AMG65 AMG 65 CL65 S65 M275 Series | eBay
OK guys here you go I found a deal for someone looking. Not to take the thread in a different direction, but regardless of drunken assembly or user abuse, what are the know causes of failure? Shardul has provided higher mileage and cylinder wall scoring to be a problem and too much hot sauce, (Nitrous) to be issues. Zax63, was there ever any conclusion established for the oil consumption/blow-by? Rings? Based on the low mileage its hard to include it as a common failure, I was just curious.
OK guys here you go I found a deal for someone looking. Not to take the thread in a different direction, but regardless of drunken assembly or user abuse, what are the know causes of failure? Shardul has provided higher mileage and cylinder wall scoring to be a problem and too much hot sauce, (Nitrous) to be issues. Zax63, was there ever any conclusion established for the oil consumption/blow-by? Rings? Based on the low mileage its hard to include it as a common failure, I was just curious.
11-07-2013, 10:39 PM
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I suspect you are younger than 19 from most of your comments, and know not of what thou speak. Almost everyone with one of these cars who has more experience than you will tell you that they are high maintenance. Shardul knows more about these cars in his pinky than you know in your body and will concur. Perhaps you have the only low maintenance one built by a honda tech. But only time will tell, hence I say wait two years. But go find yourself a crate amg motor and put it in your brothers c class or whatever else suits your fancy. Then fix your check engine lights by treating your car very specially. Then check with me in two years when you are the know-it-all from all of your lengthy experiences with your Jedi mind tricks of fixing your car without new parts, and I will listen to you. My responses in this thread are a)from experience and b) mostly directed to Shardul and to racehorse and others who were asking me questions.
Edit- ahhh, I see from your other swell thread that you are only 20. I was not far off. Hahahahahahahaha I cannot wait to check on you in two years. I'll bet money that you either A)don't have the car any more or b) have spent at least 5k fixing it. Or I should say your daddy has. I was car self sufficient by that age, but I am fairly certain you are not based on your 'tude.
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11-09-2013, 05:58 AM
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Interesting to see there may be a common problem of scoring... In the other 3 was it always the same cylinder? What would be the most likely cause for the scoring, cylinder starved for oil? rings? Could the block be a heat sink being so close to the turbo wheel, making certain cylinders more likely to hold heat? 
The low mileage car could have just had the same problem begin to occur sooner.
The low mileage car could have just had the same problem begin to occur sooner.
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Troll. And yes, I will feed you. Trolls need to eat too.
I suspect you are younger than 19 from most of your comments, and know not of what thou speak. Almost everyone with one of these cars who has more experience than you will tell you that they are high maintenance. Shardul knows more about these cars in his pinky than you know in your body and will concur. Perhaps you have the only low maintenance one built by a honda tech. But only time will tell, hence I say wait two years. But go find yourself a crate amg motor and put it in your brothers c class or whatever else suits your fancy. Then fix your check engine lights by treating your car very specially. Then check with me in two years when you are the know-it-all from all of your lengthy experiences with your Jedi mind tricks of fixing your car without new parts, and I will listen to you. My responses in this thread are a)from experience and b) mostly directed to Shardul and to racehorse and others who were asking me questions.
Edit- ahhh, I see from your other swell thread that you are only 20. I was not far off. Hahahahahahahaha I cannot wait to check on you in two years. I'll bet money that you either A)don't have the car any more or b) have spent at least 5k fixing it. Or I should say your daddy has. I was car self sufficient by that age, but I am fairly certain you are not based on your 'tude.
I suspect you are younger than 19 from most of your comments, and know not of what thou speak. Almost everyone with one of these cars who has more experience than you will tell you that they are high maintenance. Shardul knows more about these cars in his pinky than you know in your body and will concur. Perhaps you have the only low maintenance one built by a honda tech. But only time will tell, hence I say wait two years. But go find yourself a crate amg motor and put it in your brothers c class or whatever else suits your fancy. Then fix your check engine lights by treating your car very specially. Then check with me in two years when you are the know-it-all from all of your lengthy experiences with your Jedi mind tricks of fixing your car without new parts, and I will listen to you. My responses in this thread are a)from experience and b) mostly directed to Shardul and to racehorse and others who were asking me questions.
Edit- ahhh, I see from your other swell thread that you are only 20. I was not far off. Hahahahahahahaha I cannot wait to check on you in two years. I'll bet money that you either A)don't have the car any more or b) have spent at least 5k fixing it. Or I should say your daddy has. I was car self sufficient by that age, but I am fairly certain you are not based on your 'tude.
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If raising a 7-year-old-thread from the dead just for an "Oh, yeah? I'm still here!" post doesn't perfectly define "troll," I'm not sure what else would... 
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