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Old Jun 1, 2018 | 11:29 PM
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Thx great info guys.. I have access to wiring diagram just a bit confusing. That article is great.. thx a million.
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 09:48 AM
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so we did a thing to a e500 to make it more fun to drive
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 10:33 AM
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I've had an M113 4.3 in my SLK for over a year now. running great on MegaSquirt to get around all the adaptation issues with the ECU

currently swapping a 6 speed from a Crossfire into it.

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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 10:43 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 01:02 PM
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hey you are in tampa as well? let me know if you need any help!! looks very nice!!
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 02:23 PM
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E500 6 speed manual
so we did a thing to a e500 to make it more fun to drive
are you using the stock ecu?
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 08:12 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 08:26 PM
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Yes stock
what did you do to combat the tcu just program it out of the can network, and unplug?
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Old Jun 16, 2018 | 07:22 PM
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I was wondering the same thing, but I expect the answer is no.

Still, a 5.8 manual v12 with tubular exhaust manifolds would be a nice experience.

The V12 has the same bell-housing interface as the v8.

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The ONLY manual gearbox for the V12 is the modified BMW gearbox
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Old Jun 16, 2018 | 07:23 PM
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All work necessary was done in all modules quite a bit of coding
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 06:51 PM
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Hi, really enjoying this build. Can you tell me what flywheel you are using? I have one from a Crossfire and six speed. The gearbox bolts up to my M113 no problem but the V6 flywheel I have is a different bolt pattern.
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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Hi, really enjoying this build. Can you tell me what flywheel you are using? I have one from a Crossfire and six speed. The gearbox bolts up to my M113 no problem but the V6 flywheel I have is a different bolt pattern.

Ok, so for those playing at home there's two different crank bolt patterns. There was a changeover somewhere around 2005 for the M112 V6. One is a more or less concentric equal spaced 8 bolt pattern and one has 4 bolt holes spaced differently. I'm not sure which one is early and which one is late model,
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Old Sep 2, 2018 | 10:02 PM
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Old Oct 23, 2018 | 11:18 PM
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I just stumbled across this thread while doing research on how to wire a Holley Dominator EFI to fire the coils. Can you guys share how you wired the ignition coils? Has anyone scoped them to determine dwell and required amperage?
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Old Jan 6, 2019 | 01:15 AM
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Why not use factory LS coils? They are really good and already mapped out.
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Old Jan 7, 2019 | 11:08 PM
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LS1 coils make sense but you'll need 16 of them. Some early WRX coils are also an option as they have 4 outputs and internal igniters.
I have also worked out where to get solid flywheels for the M112/M113 and get rid of the dual mass crap. Surprisingly cheap too.
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Old Jan 8, 2019 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SteamWolf
LS1 coils make sense but you'll need 16 of them. Some early WRX coils are also an option as they have 4 outputs and internal igniters.
I have also worked out where to get solid flywheels for the M112/M113 and get rid of the dual mass crap. Surprisingly cheap too.
You must tell us where to get this single mass flywheel!!!!

You dont have to use all 16 plugs - I'm only using 8 on my M113 standalone. I believe you can use the stock Mercedes coils as they are just two 2-wire coils using the same 12V signal but separate grounds. My next step is to use stock coils but only wire up one plug to fire.
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Old Jan 8, 2019 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by loggato
I believe you can use the stock Mercedes coils as they are just two 2-wire coils using the same 12V signal but separate grounds.
I believe you are correct. My plan is to wire +12v into pin 2, and then splice pins 1 & 3 into a single wire going to the Holley coil module. Before I do this I will need to put an oscilloscope on a coil to see how much amperage they draw and what the dwell is. I should have that info in a few weeks when I take the car to a dyno for baseline testing.
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Old Jan 8, 2019 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeJErnst
I believe you are correct. My plan is to wire +12v into pin 2, and then splice pins 1 & 3 into a single wire going to the Holley coil module. Before I do this I will need to put an oscilloscope on a coil to see how much amperage they draw and what the dwell is. I should have that info in a few weeks when I take the car to a dyno for baseline testing.
Let me know what figure you get on amperage and dwell. I'm going to be converting my EDIS 8 ignition to "Coil on Plug" (which can be done using 2 EDIS8 Modules) I'm hoping to do this with the factoring MB ignition coils
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Any updates on these cool builds? All electronic issues resolved? Thanks
I have my car running on a standalone transmission controller, but I haven't wired up the Holley ECU yet. I already had the stock injectors characterized so I can set them up in the Holley, and I am going to scope the ignition signals next weekend so I can do the coils, cam, and crank sensors. I still have to build most of the harness too.
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I have my engine wired but am finishing plumbing of the coolant lines. Once done Ill power up the ECU, configure it and see if it runs.
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I got mine running on the Holley. I'll start tuning it tomorrow. Hopefully I can make it to the track before the end of the season to see if it improved my times.
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