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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 02:37 PM
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E55/S55 Header Modifications

Can someone please explain to me what specifically needs to be modified on E55 long tubes to make them work on an S55? I've looked, all I can find out is that they need to be modified. The question is where and how?
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​​​I would love a set of MBH long tubes, but I don't have $3k to spend on exhaust. Not saying they're not worth the cost, new ones just aren't in my budget, and I've yet to come across any used ones for sale. E55 headers are affordable and available, I just need to know how they need to be modified to fit. I do have access to a lift, a welder and whatever else is required, so once I know what needs to be done, doing it won't be an issue. Anyone done this?
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I find this fairly hard to believe, actually. For starters, you should check your local dealer parts desk to see if the factory headers are any different between the two cars. I would expect any differences to be at the back end of the system, maybe some extensions. Maybe. If you don’t like that idea, you might call the guys over at Kleeman. They sell headers for the M113k with no apparent distinction between chassis. I’ve never seriously considered headers, but many people have talked to me about them for my car, and no one has made a distinction between those for E v CLS v S. Not Kleeman, RENNTech, Eurocharged, no one — and I’ve talked to them all.

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Old Jan 6, 2020 | 11:14 PM
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I find this fairly area to believe, actually. For starters, you should check your local dealer parts desk to see if the factory headers are any different between the two cars. I would expect any differences to be at the back end of the system, maybe some extensions. Maybe. If you don’t like that idea, you might call the guys over at Kleeman. They sell headers for the M113k with no apparent distinction between chassis. I’ve never seriously considered headers, but many people have talked to me about them for my car, and no one has made a distinction between those for E v CLS v S. Not Kleeman, RENNTech, Eurocharged, no one — and I’ve talked to them all.

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I appreciate your response. Unfortunately all those manufacturers you listed state explicitly that they will not work with the S, but not why. "Clearance issues" are as close as I've got to an explanation. The factory manifolds aren't shaped like long tubes, they're log style rather than sweeping, so looking at those profiles doesn't help me.
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 08:27 AM
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Ok. There are guys here who know. Hopefully they respond. You might ping Members JNash, Oxygen and WellNyck. GL

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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by maw1124
I find this fairly area to believe, actually. For starters, you should check your local dealer parts desk to see if the factory headers are any different between the two cars. I would expect any differences to be at the back end of the system, maybe some extensions. Maybe. If you don’t like that idea, you might call the guys over at Kleeman. They sell headers for the M113k with no apparent distinction between chassis. I’ve never seriously considered headers, but many people have talked to me about them for my car, and no one has made a distinction between those for E v CLS v S. Not Kleeman, RENNTech, Eurocharged, no one — and I’ve talked to them all.

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looking at the kleeman website again, you're right. They do offer W220 headers, but I'm not sure how they're different from those for other chassis. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 618Syndicate
looking at the kleeman website again, you're right. They do offer W220 headers, but I'm not sure how they're different from those for other chassis. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.
Yeah, I looked at that before I responded. I know, people don't check what they say anymore these days -- I'm a throwback. I can see the cats being larger on the S class, due to the higher output, but that's about it. Kleeman's headers are catless, which is probably how they deal with "clearance issues." GL

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Yeah, I looked at that before I responded. I know, people don't check what they say anymore these days -- I'm a throwback. I can see the cats being larger on the S class, due to the higher output, but that's about it. Kleeman's headers are catless, which is probably how they deal with "clearance issues." GL

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I'm old school too. I'd looked at Kleeman's site before, but guess I misunderstood. All the long tubes I've been looking at are catless, that's what I'm after, so I don't think that's what the difference is.
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These will fit 220 with a little modification https://www.vrpspeed.com/product/midlength-headers/
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These will fit 220 with a little modification https://www.vrpspeed.com/product/midlength-headers/
Ive done business with you in the past and been very satisfied. Can you detail what and how they need to be modified please?
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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 618Syndicate
I'm old school too. I'd looked at Kleeman's site before, but guess I misunderstood. All the long tubes I've been looking at are catless, that's what I'm after, so I don't think that's what the difference is.
You can make e55 long tube headers fit.

You will have to cut out some pieces of the subframe. Nothing structural. The outlet of the collectors will need to be cut and welded at a slight angle.
Then give her the old header beat down with a hammer.
I remember having to unbolt the steering rack to get them in to. But they clear the steering shaft with out any modification.
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Originally Posted by E42AMG???
You can make e55 long tube headers fit.

You will have to cut out some pieces of the subframe. Nothing structural. The outlet of the collectors will need to be cut and welded at a slight angle.
Then give her the old header beat down with a hammer.
I remember having to unbolt the steering rack to get them in to. But they clear the steering shaft with out any modification.
I've ordered some mid length headers from VRP, waiting for them to show up. I'll detail what it takes to install.
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 11:34 AM
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I've ordered some mid length headers from VRP, waiting for them to show up. I'll detail what it takes to install.
618Syndicate - Did you get a chance to install the mid length headers? Kindly enlighten us with your impression with this modification.
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 11:49 AM
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I haven't gotten to it yet, too many other projects going on. But I will, and when I do I'll report back.
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 12:08 PM
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I haven't gotten to it yet, too many other projects going on. But I will, and when I do I'll report back.
Copy that. Thanks.
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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 08:54 PM
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I haven't gotten to it yet, too many other projects going on. But I will, and when I do I'll report back.
I am in the same situation as you but with my CL55, anyways I also want to buy the vrp ones you got but I do not know what I have to do? could you please explain?
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