2016 S63 AMG Tire Wear issues
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2016 S63 AMG
2016 S63 AMG Tire Wear issues
Every body think over before You buy S63!
My 2016 S63 current had 12,000 miles, but need to replace front tires set SECOND TIMES ALREADY,
That is meaning every 6000 miles I need to buy a new set of front tires , * alignment is checked and no other additional issues.
This is not the money issues , This is waste my a lot of time!
Very poor design !
First time feeling not happy with this car.
My 2016 S63 current had 12,000 miles, but need to replace front tires set SECOND TIMES ALREADY,
That is meaning every 6000 miles I need to buy a new set of front tires , * alignment is checked and no other additional issues.
This is not the money issues , This is waste my a lot of time!
Very poor design !
First time feeling not happy with this car.
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The photo is the second tire for my new S63 ( 12000 miles), That is meaning every 6000 mile I should change the two front tires, I did call Benz customer " care ", the answer is normal tire wear, I will pass my story to all my friends , family members through Wechat, Youtube , face book..... You need to deal this headache if You want to buy new S class !
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My S63 with 5P tires is showing excess wear on the outer tread of the front and back tires at 5K miles. But not as bad as the picture above.
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AMGs have negative camber from the factory so the inner edge typically goes first. Have you had the alignment checked?
If so and it is in spec, which I doubt, a lowering module or links (which make camber further negative) might actually prolong your tire life.
Also what inflation pressure are you running ? Increasing psi should shift some of the wear toward the middle of the tread, if it is on the low side the inner and outer tread will wear before the center.
If so and it is in spec, which I doubt, a lowering module or links (which make camber further negative) might actually prolong your tire life.
Also what inflation pressure are you running ? Increasing psi should shift some of the wear toward the middle of the tread, if it is on the low side the inner and outer tread will wear before the center.
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That was my first question upon seeing the picture. Looks a lot like low tire pressure wear to me. Considering the condition of the wheels I'm guessing OP doesn't check that too often.
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Every body think over before You buy S63!
My 2016 S63 current had 12,000 miles, but need to replace front tires set SECOND TIMES ALREADY,
That is meaning every 6000 miles I need to buy a new set of front tires , * alignment is checked and no other additional issues.
This is not the money issues , This is waste my a lot of time!
Very poor design !
First time feeling not happy with this car.
My 2016 S63 current had 12,000 miles, but need to replace front tires set SECOND TIMES ALREADY,
That is meaning every 6000 miles I need to buy a new set of front tires , * alignment is checked and no other additional issues.
This is not the money issues , This is waste my a lot of time!
Very poor design !
First time feeling not happy with this car.
Do point out that OEM there is only ‘Toe’ adjustment front (and rear)!
OK if vehicle maintained and driven at showroom height, but day to day commuting encountering high cambered roads, altering/lowering height, load carrying, suspension sag, fitting wide profile tires or curb knock damage – the feature of having front and rear “ongoing Camber adjustment” capability to change tire “contact angle” is essential. Along with front Caster to “correctly resolve” steering pull and improve brake and steering response.
We saw the need therefore to design, manufacture and reinstate from the early ‘90’s kits that provide precise adjustment (on car under load direct on alignment rack). Also replacing the 4 front and 4 rear highest wearing suspension bushings at the same time. Result is no more ongoing trips to dealers or alignment shops or constantly changing tire brands. Fixing it right….the 1st time!
For the front (only) you can purchase fluted bolts – but they are inaccurate having ONE ONLY OFFSET POSITION, providing 3mm (1/8”) which is a minimal 0.3 degree change. The K-MAC patented design allows up to 4 times the adjustment range and is “precise accurate single wrench” adjustable.
Rear kits also provide Camber (and additional rear Toe adjustment to compensate for the new Camber facility). Advantage of the K-MAC rear bush design compared to adjustable “Camber Arms” is that to resolve premature inner edge tire wear Camber arms need to move “top of tire” outwards, diminishing all important clearance to outer fender – K-MAC moves bottom arms inwards and easier access allowing to be adjusted also accurately (on car under load).
The front bushings are 2 axis/self aligning but without the oil and air voids of OEM. Result is noticeably improved brake and steering response. No modifications to fit – come with instructions and extraction/insertion tubes (Rear Camber can be fitted on vehicle).
Also manufactured is a full set of 12 replacement bushings for the 6 rear multi link arms. Providing significant improvement to rear end stability. Less flex/twitch especially when applying power lane changing/overtaking.
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i just got a certified 2015 s63 amg i drove 5100 mile and now i need new front tire. i think that bad for a nice car like this . so what i understand from u there nothing i can do about it
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Find a good alignment person and have them adjust your toe settings based on the wear he sees on your tires. At the rate you go through tires.. You should be able to dial it in quickly!
Check your ride height too.
Vince
Check your ride height too.
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My friend in California had this problem
with his C217 coupe - twice - the OEM
tyres and the replacement tyres which
also came from the dealership
After replacing for the third time he took
the coupe to an alignment shop where they
said the numbers were too negative and the
tyre pressure was too low
1500 miles later the tyres are showing no wear
and the ride is much improved
Thank-You
D.B.
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AMGs have negative camber from the factory so the inner edge typically goes first. Have you had the alignment checked?
If so and it is in spec, which I doubt, a lowering module or links (which make camber further negative) might actually prolong your tire life.
Also what inflation pressure are you running ? Increasing psi should shift some of the wear toward the middle of the tread, if it is on the low side the inner and outer tread will wear before the center.
If so and it is in spec, which I doubt, a lowering module or links (which make camber further negative) might actually prolong your tire life.
Also what inflation pressure are you running ? Increasing psi should shift some of the wear toward the middle of the tread, if it is on the low side the inner and outer tread will wear before the center.
My friend in California had this problem
with his C217 coupe - twice - the OEM
tyres and the replacement tyres which
also came from the dealership
After replacing for the third time he took
the coupe to an alignment shop where they
said the numbers were too negative and the
tyre pressure was too low
1500 miles later the tyres are showing no wear
and the ride is much improved
Thank-You
D.B.
`
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Well, the same thing has happened to me. The front tires (Conti 5P) are completely shot after about 8k miles, with the outer edge tread completely worn off. And this is with a lowering module! Lowering results in more negative camber, so usually causes excessive inner tread wear, but not in the case of the S63. The front tires would probably have lasted even fewer miles without the lowering.
I keep the front cold pressures in the 38-42 psi range, so this is not the result of underinflation.
I'm getting a new set of Michelin PS4 installed tomorrow, hopefully they will wear better.
There is much lighter and more even wear on the rear tires, they have plenty of life left but of course are getting replaced along with the fronts.
EDIT: This is what 8,000 looks like on the front and rear tires at the factory recommended psi; either 255/40-20 Conti 5P tires are crap and/or the recommended psi is insufficient.
I keep the front cold pressures in the 38-42 psi range, so this is not the result of underinflation.
I'm getting a new set of Michelin PS4 installed tomorrow, hopefully they will wear better.
There is much lighter and more even wear on the rear tires, they have plenty of life left but of course are getting replaced along with the fronts.
EDIT: This is what 8,000 looks like on the front and rear tires at the factory recommended psi; either 255/40-20 Conti 5P tires are crap and/or the recommended psi is insufficient.
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Have 42K km on my car now, and now the tires had to be renewed (2.1-2.3 mm of wear left on front-rear). Choose to upgrade from the PS3 to PS4S, will let you know my experiences.
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I'm close to 15K in the first year. Never used the OEM tires. The SottoZero 3 I got last year are back on and doing great. The PS4S that went on early spring have been working very well for me and will go back on come spring time. No special wear on any of the tires.
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It does in some variants. From the press release:
The RACE START function is now also available in the S 63 4MATIC+ Coupé and Cabriolet (LHD) and the S 63 Coupé and Cabriolet (RHD). It features a new, significantly simpler control logic: In the "Sport" or "Sport+" driving modes, the driver only has to press hard on the brake pedal with their left foot while simultaneously mashing the accelerator pedal with their right foot. The on-board electronics will then set the optimum engine speed. Depending on the requirements or the road surface conditions, the engine speed can be increased or lowered in a certain range by operating the paddle shifters. If the driver now releases the brake pedal, the vehicle accelerates with optimal traction. The Coupé and Cabriolet are then able to sprint from 0 to 100 km/h in 3.5 seconds.
The RACE START function is now also available in the S 63 4MATIC+ Coupé and Cabriolet (LHD) and the S 63 Coupé and Cabriolet (RHD). It features a new, significantly simpler control logic: In the "Sport" or "Sport+" driving modes, the driver only has to press hard on the brake pedal with their left foot while simultaneously mashing the accelerator pedal with their right foot. The on-board electronics will then set the optimum engine speed. Depending on the requirements or the road surface conditions, the engine speed can be increased or lowered in a certain range by operating the paddle shifters. If the driver now releases the brake pedal, the vehicle accelerates with optimal traction. The Coupé and Cabriolet are then able to sprint from 0 to 100 km/h in 3.5 seconds.
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I'm on my 3rd set of FRONT tires at 25,000 miles and this is a ridiculous problem. I drive 90% of the time on straight interstate, 75 mph speeds. The REAR tires do fine but I replaced them at 25,000 miles just for good measure. I switched to BF Goodrich for all 4 tires , and I leave my suspension now in "S" mode. After 1500 miles, they seem to be wearing normally now. I keep the pressure on all four at 45-50 pounds. I think keeping the suspension stiff, not allowing for sagging and bouncing when the pavement isn't level and even, the tires are kept upright and wear evenly.
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Interesting. I run my summer tires at 35 front and 31 rear. Winter tires at 40 front and 39 rear (for temp drop between indoor garage and outside) .
Following the recommended pressure fairly closely.
Following the recommended pressure fairly closely.
Last edited by Dan_B; Dec 17, 2017 at 05:05 PM.
