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2020 S63 Coupe, 2006 Hummer H1 Alpha, 2018 McLaren 720S, 2022 Porsche 911 TurboS, 2022 Tesla Model X
Originally Posted by Streamliner
I have not heard this from anyone with CCB. I have had dealers—both MB and Porsche—say they squeak, as they try to dissuade folks from ordering them. Since very few if any cars on their lots have CCB, there are none for them to sell immediately, which is what they live for.
Dealerships make a lot of money on replacing steel brakes on AMGs. That's another dis-incentive to selling CCB-equipped cars o their customers - over the life of a car, there is more profit to be made from service and parts than over the initial sale particularly when they are discounting new cars 5-7% off MSRP for savvy buyers.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Dealerships make a lot of money on replacing steel brakes on AMGs. That's another dis-incentive to selling CCB-equipped cars o their customers - over the life of a car, there is more profit to be made from service and parts than over the initial sale particularly when they are discounting new cars 5-7% off MSRP for savvy buyers.
You can also apply ceramic coatings to your wheels (besides the paint and glass), which forms a protective layer and helps gook and stuff just rinse away easily.
I'm currently working with Avalon King products and I've been very happy with the results. It's even easier than applying wax, and it lasts at least a year if not longer.
2017 S63 Coupe (Roo); 2020 S63 Coupe (Dorian); 2021 Maybach GLS 600 w/all in 4 seat config (Bach S)
Originally Posted by andreigbs
You can also apply ceramic coatings to your wheels (besides the paint and glass), which forms a protective layer and helps gook and stuff just rinse away easily.
I'm currently working with Avalon King products and I've been very happy with the results. It's even easier than applying wax, and it lasts at least a year if not longer.
2017 S63 Coupe (Roo); 2020 S63 Coupe (Dorian); 2021 Maybach GLS 600 w/all in 4 seat config (Bach S)
Originally Posted by Streamliner
Well, I got the AMG forged wheels installed last week, here is a photo. I’ve installed ceramic brake pads, which has reduced the dust by about half, but these polished aluminum wheels just NEED to be kept pristine, to my way of thinking, so I am now shopping the AMG CCB upgrade. My pockets are not as deep as Dan’s, so I’m really digging for a deal. Wish me luck!
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by Dan_B
Beautiful - enjoy!
Dan, D.B.,
Don’t want to even come close to hijacking this wonderful thread, but wanted to say that I took the “PLUNGE” myself. Thanks to both of you for providing the insight and encouragement.
Streamliner
Don’t want to even come close to hijacking this wonderful thread, but wanted to say that I took the “PLUNGE” myself. Thanks to both of you for providing the insight and encouragement.
Streamliner
how much did it cost you and did you do it through the dealer or an independent shop?
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by sattman
how much did it cost you and did you do it through the dealer or an independent shop?
It was done by Benz Works in Huntington Beach, CA. As per my agreement with the shop, I am not revealing the exact cost, but I will say that it was between $15K & $20K, parts & Labor. As far as I know, MB dealers will not do the upgrade to vehicles that never had the CCB as an option.
We love the wheels we got from David (theweb) which really give the coupe a more mature look. If you haven't worked with David, we highly recommend you do.
1) Ben installed the driver side AMG heel support from DB. It looks GREAT and it is functional too. I find it more comfortable than the OEM carpet. It makes the coupe look even better, and fits well with the added comfort of the beautiful foot stools (one passenger side for my wife; two special small ones for the rear seats). Thank you DB (yet again)
2) Latest upgrade was the LoMo2 lowering module which was installed by COLE from CAR TOYS BELLEVUE. Cole did a great job and the LoMo has +8 and -8 settings. The guys at LoMo were very helpful when it came to getting the install done. Check their site on http://loweringmodule.com . The picture is on setting 0. Note: Coupe needs to be in Park to adjust the settings. Front/Rear setting as well as module on/off are controlled from steering wheel.
3) Some pictures of the Yellow calipers which do indeed look better than red :-) but not as the one Tal, DB, and I love most which arrived at our favorite MB dealer @ Lynnwood because Garrett is always awesome to work with!
4) After the CCB install we are off to Joey and Ben at Eastside for the ceramic coating.
Looking great in cold foggy WA weather Yellow is nicer than red (DB right again) We love the new wheels from David (theweb) and the custom AMG inserts These arrived at our dealer from DE, look better than yellow, and will go on in a couple of weeks
Can you tell me more about what the driver side AMG heel support is? And who makes the carpets you've gotten?
2017 S63 Coupe (Roo); 2020 S63 Coupe (Dorian); 2021 Maybach GLS 600 w/all in 4 seat config (Bach S)
The carpet is the OEM Mercedes AMG that comes with the coupe.
The heel support needs a picture to do it justice. Functional and handsome. I'll need to clean it after getting some snow on it. I'll take one next week and share.
As for the source -- the only thing I know and find salient is that it was a gift from DB -- which made it priceless and very special. It complements the foot rest which DB also gifted for my wife and she loves it. It makes a great ride into a perfect ride.
Visually, both add elegance and a unique look element to the coupe.
The carpet is the OEM Mercedes AMG that comes with the coupe.
The heel support needs a picture to do it justice. Functional and handsome. I'll need to clean it after getting some snow on it. I'll take one next week and share.
As for the source -- the only thing I know and find salient is that it was a gift from DB -- which made it priceless and very special. It complements the foot rest which DB also gifted for my wife and she loves it. It makes a great ride into a perfect ride.
Visually, both add elegance and a unique look element to the coupe.
Thanks! I'd love to see a pic when you have a chance. I'll contact DB about it for a price.
2016 S63C4, 2021 Escalade Sport Platinum, 2023 Polaris Slingshot R
Originally Posted by Dan_B
Also, this is a better picture with the post CCB install and the far nicer weather I can hardly wait for again.
CCB, XPEL, and Modesta (on the coupe and wheels), with custom wheels from David N. (@thewb)
Dan, I've been wanting to do the CCB upgrade for over a year, but my dealer said they wouldn't do it, couldn't do it, etc. Then, today I saw this thread and sent the service manager the pic, the invoice and your summary post. Now they'll do it!! However, they requested your VIN so they can speed up the process. Would you be willing to PM it to me?
Dan, I've been wanting to do the CCB upgrade for over a year, but my dealer said they wouldn't do it, couldn't do it, etc. Then, today I saw this thread and sent the service manager the pic, the invoice and your summary post. Now they'll do it!! However, they requested your VIN so they can speed up the process. Would you be willing to PM it to me?
What is the name and location of the dealer that told you they
could not and would not install CCB's on your Coupe -
This is one of my biggest complaints ( if not the biggest)
regarding Mercedes dealerships -
There are too many dealerships with SA's and even mechanics
who don't know WTF they are talking about -
If they don't know or don't understand your question the stock answer
becomes " It can't be done " rather than doing the necessary research
needed to answer the your question(s) -
This problem is not specific to CCB's -
Most SA's have no idea why the rear rotors on the Coupe wear faster
than the fronts saying that's just the way it is -
It is because of Mercedes EBS keeping the Coupe level under
braking especially under hard braking - i.e. no nose dive -
I could list other examples but the bottom line is don't believe
everything your SA tells you -
This sub-forum is your best source of knowledge for your Coupe -
There are members of this sub-forum who have been lied to
by SA's regarding the workings of their Coupe - read the threads -
Mercedes needs more training / education / knowledge for its
employees which in turn would make the customers service
experience what it should be for a $200k+ work of art -
That is why Dan only uses Lynnwood Mercedes for his trio of
AMG Stallions -
He wants to know the details of what is being done by people
2016 S63C4, 2021 Escalade Sport Platinum, 2023 Polaris Slingshot R
This situation is never gonna change. Reason being; technology advances faster than the companies can train their ever-changing grunt staff. Not only that, but they only wanna make money and very few people will go above and beyond the norm to make the customer happy. It took 4 years and 3 headlamp assembly replacements before the VMI and VDOC were edited on my VIN record to reflect the Swarovski upgrade done by the selling dealer!
Anyway, I don't deal with service advisors unless I'm on a trip and away from my preferred dealer, I deal directly with the service manager. Last year he referred me to the parts manager to look into the CCB upgrade.
This was his response:
I would only be able to offer you what came on your vehicle from the factory, we also would hate to void out your factory warranty by changing out parts that were not vin specified to your vehicle and also parts are looked up by your specific vin as far as application and fitment along with safety. There are aftermarket companies that will do the swap out but again I caution you it may void out any factory warranty repairs to the braking system in the future.
Thanks,
Craig Garabedian
Parts Director
Today (after 15 or so emails yesterday with the service manager, who called MB of Lynnwood's SM and spoke at length with him about both of Dan B.'s upgrades) I received this:
It looks like we are a go on this, let me know if you want to proceed.
Thanks,
Charlie
AND... They're giving me 10% off MSRP on the parts for misleading me a year ago!
Last edited by S63C4; Jul 17, 2020 at 09:16 AM.
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I deal directly with the service manager. Last year he referred me to the parts manager to look into the CCB upgrade.
This was his response: I would only be able to offer you what came on your vehicle from the factory, we also would hate to void out your factory warranty by changing out parts that were not vin specified to your vehicle and also parts are looked up by your specific vin as far as application and fitment along with safety. There are aftermarket companies that will do the swap out but again I caution you it may void out any factory warranty repairs to the braking system in the future.
Thanks,
Craig Garabedian
Parts Director
Let me tell you if you think you are special because you only
"deal with the service manager" - your service manager is an idiot
and most likely an Aqua Velva if it took him 4 years to straighten
out the Swarovski issue - and he was complicit in the mis-information
provided to you as to the CCB's --- is he your brother-in-law...
And the "Parts Director" Craig's email response proves what an
idiot / Aqua Velva he is - his response to the CCB's is out and out wrong -
And after all your time / effort and emails dealing with your "service manager"
and the "Parts Director" regarding the the Swarovski issue and the
CCB's issue in the last 4 years they are only going to give you 10% off -
I would be contacting MBNA regarding these matters and then start looking for
a new dealership -
And to all members of this sub-forum please stay safe from the Covid by doing
what you need to do - wash your hands wear a mask and tell your wife / girlfriend
that you love her -
Unfortunately you are not all like Keith Richards:
2016 S63C4, 2021 Escalade Sport Platinum, 2023 Polaris Slingshot R
1) I AM special! Plus, I don't jump to conclusions or assume I know more about someone else's dealings than they do.
2) This SM had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with headlamp debacle. I hadn't even been to this dealer before that got solved.
3) Had I pressed the issue after Craig's idiotic boilerplate "go **** yourself" answer, I woul've gotten it done, but at the time I was still on the fence.
4) This dealership is one of 20 Herb Chambers establishments. NONE of them discount parts, EVER. In fact, they charge list++ as standard HC policy. So, I'm satisfied with a TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR discount.
2017 S63 Coupe (Roo); 2020 S63 Coupe (Dorian); 2021 Maybach GLS 600 w/all in 4 seat config (Bach S)
Mercedes of Lynnwood is the best. CCB’s install take time, knowledge and registration with MBUSA to assure your new CCBs are covered under warranty.
after reading the thread I’d say 1) I agree with DB and 2) since you travel I would highly recommend Mercedes of Lynnwood. They are experts, honest, and their GM who got me the last worth owning 2020 coupe is outstanding!! I would never trust anyone else to work on my AMG.
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