2018 S63 AMG Issues
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MY17 S63AMG - MBUSA Buyback. MY16 SL63 - Sold MY19 W213 E63s. 2020 W213 E63s Wagon
Again I would first make sure I have all of the service invoices to your S63 which will show how many times AND days your car has been to the dealer for the same issues you are having. Make sure you have all of the invoices and only then contact Mercedes Benz of Canada whom oversees all of the authorize Mercedes dealers in Canada because once you escalate this to corporate, it “might” be harder to get missing service invoices.
https://www.daimler.com/career/about...page-5136.html
https://www.daimler.com/company/nort...nz-canada.html
If Mercedes Benz of Canada denies your claim for buyback, find a lawyer who specializes Mercedes vehicle buybacks and is willing to take on the case and get paid only if they win the case.
Best of luck!
https://www.daimler.com/career/about...page-5136.html
https://www.daimler.com/company/nort...nz-canada.html
If Mercedes Benz of Canada denies your claim for buyback, find a lawyer who specializes Mercedes vehicle buybacks and is willing to take on the case and get paid only if they win the case.
Best of luck!
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Quck update :
They involved Mercedes Canada this time as well and so far they replaced all the injectors again and replaced Fuel pressure hose and Fuel pressure pump . They are keeping my car for an extra week and will be doing test drives with it everyday up until next week. Keep everyone posted how it goes! They believe this should fix the issues here on.
They involved Mercedes Canada this time as well and so far they replaced all the injectors again and replaced Fuel pressure hose and Fuel pressure pump . They are keeping my car for an extra week and will be doing test drives with it everyday up until next week. Keep everyone posted how it goes! They believe this should fix the issues here on.
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Quck update :
They involved Mercedes Canada this time as well and so far they replaced all the injectors again and replaced Fuel pressure hose and Fuel pressure pump . They are keeping my car for an extra week and will be doing test drives with it everyday up until next week. Keep everyone posted how it goes! They believe this should fix the issues here on.
They involved Mercedes Canada this time as well and so far they replaced all the injectors again and replaced Fuel pressure hose and Fuel pressure pump . They are keeping my car for an extra week and will be doing test drives with it everyday up until next week. Keep everyone posted how it goes! They believe this should fix the issues here on.
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Agreed. I've been looking around at Taycans / Panameras Turbo S etc but at end of the day the only way i'll be replacing my 2018 s63 is a newer s63 now!
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So everything is fixed. They've only replaced injectors / sparkplugs each and every single time! Give or take a hose or two . Finally they fixed the Fuel Pressure line and Fuel Pressure pump this very last time and it seemed that all the problems went away.
All the crazy idling when starting the car
The sudden shaking rumbling of the car when accelerating
No power when pressing the gas
Alot of gas smell when starting car
All this has seem to be fixed after the fuel pressure line and fuel pressure pump was fixed along with replacement of the injectors / sparkplugs.
Finally driving my car without too much problems so far!
All the crazy idling when starting the car
The sudden shaking rumbling of the car when accelerating
No power when pressing the gas
Alot of gas smell when starting car
All this has seem to be fixed after the fuel pressure line and fuel pressure pump was fixed along with replacement of the injectors / sparkplugs.
Finally driving my car without too much problems so far!
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So everything is fixed. They've only replaced injectors / sparkplugs each and every single time! Give or take a hose or two . Finally they fixed the Fuel Pressure line and Fuel Pressure pump this very last time and it seemed that all the problems went away.
All the crazy idling when starting the car
The sudden shaking rumbling of the car when accelerating
No power when pressing the gas
Alot of gas smell when starting car
All this has seem to be fixed after the fuel pressure line and fuel pressure pump was fixed along with replacement of the injectors / sparkplugs.
Finally driving my car without too much problems so far!
All the crazy idling when starting the car
The sudden shaking rumbling of the car when accelerating
No power when pressing the gas
Alot of gas smell when starting car
All this has seem to be fixed after the fuel pressure line and fuel pressure pump was fixed along with replacement of the injectors / sparkplugs.
Finally driving my car without too much problems so far!
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Going to open this thread again , the dreaded problem came back. This will be the 6th time for the same problem.
Check engine light is on
Car would not turn on at times or struggle to turn on
After turning on the idle would jump up like crazy before returning back to normal
idles very rough.
The starting signs of a injectors / spark plugs / fuel pump issues again....
Going to drop it off dealer today before it leads to bigger issues . I think i can already tell dealer where the issue is. Warranty ends in Decemeber so i may pick up extended warranty if i decide to keep OR i replace with a newer s63.
Check engine light is on
Car would not turn on at times or struggle to turn on
After turning on the idle would jump up like crazy before returning back to normal
idles very rough.
The starting signs of a injectors / spark plugs / fuel pump issues again....
Going to drop it off dealer today before it leads to bigger issues . I think i can already tell dealer where the issue is. Warranty ends in Decemeber so i may pick up extended warranty if i decide to keep OR i replace with a newer s63.
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Going to open this thread again , the dreaded problem came back. This will be the 6th time for the same problem.
Check engine light is on
Car would not turn on at times or struggle to turn on
After turning on the idle would jump up like crazy before returning back to normal
idles very rough.
The starting signs of a injectors / spark plugs / fuel pump issues again....
Going to drop it off dealer today before it leads to bigger issues . I think i can already tell dealer where the issue is. Warranty ends in Decemeber so i may pick up extended warranty if i decide to keep OR i replace with a newer s63.
Check engine light is on
Car would not turn on at times or struggle to turn on
After turning on the idle would jump up like crazy before returning back to normal
idles very rough.
The starting signs of a injectors / spark plugs / fuel pump issues again....
Going to drop it off dealer today before it leads to bigger issues . I think i can already tell dealer where the issue is. Warranty ends in Decemeber so i may pick up extended warranty if i decide to keep OR i replace with a newer s63.
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Going to open this thread again , the dreaded problem came back. This will be the 6th time for the same problem.
Check engine light is on
Car would not turn on at times or struggle to turn on
After turning on the idle would jump up like crazy before returning back to normal
idles very rough.
The starting signs of a injectors / spark plugs / fuel pump issues again....
Going to drop it off dealer today before it leads to bigger issues . I think i can already tell dealer where the issue is. Warranty ends in Decemeber so i may pick up extended warranty if i decide to keep OR i replace with a newer s63.
Check engine light is on
Car would not turn on at times or struggle to turn on
After turning on the idle would jump up like crazy before returning back to normal
idles very rough.
The starting signs of a injectors / spark plugs / fuel pump issues again....
Going to drop it off dealer today before it leads to bigger issues . I think i can already tell dealer where the issue is. Warranty ends in Decemeber so i may pick up extended warranty if i decide to keep OR i replace with a newer s63.
bro. I would get out of it if possible. Move on and get another one.
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So far Dealership said they involved MB Canada and will escalate it further into Germany. It maybe a whole new engine .
Either way at this point - i dont even care any more. Just fix it / patch it up , i am going to get rid of it asap and jump into something new! G63 or Porsche unsure yet... Need a 5 seater for 3 kids lol
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So far Dealership said they involved MB Canada and will escalate it further into Germany. It maybe a whole new engine .
Either way at this point - i dont even care any more. Just fix it / patch it up , i am going to get rid of it asap and jump into something new! G63 or Porsche unsure yet... Need a 5 seater for 3 kids lol
Either way at this point - i dont even care any more. Just fix it / patch it up , i am going to get rid of it asap and jump into something new! G63 or Porsche unsure yet... Need a 5 seater for 3 kids lol
That being said, since it is the same transmission, same diffs, same everything else.... it might not be a good idea at the end. You decide of course
Either way, hope they get it resolved as soon as possible so you are back on the road for the time being until you find the car you want to get. If you haven't heard already, which I believe you did. MBUSA is suspending production of MY22 63 AMGs across the lineup and G550 amid chip shortages (while others are speculating emissions) I have a friend that lives in the GTA that had a 2022 G63 canceled so this too affect MB Canada. I also seen high ADM on 63 models of cars especially the G63. Anyways, good luck and I hope you find what you want, keep us updated with your decision.
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Jesus H. Crist, this is simply terrible news! I can't believe that this is happening to you, again. I am very sorry to hear this news. Now, Germany is involved, what are they going to do send over the tech who built the motor? I wonder what "defective" part(s) they will find, Regardless, this is unacceptable for you, and I am very sad to hear that you have to go through this all over again. Mercedes buyback? As for Porsche, do your research. I worked for them for a bit, and the V8 turbo (Panamera) has its issues, too! As for the Taycan, the new electric technology is having multiple growing pains.
Hedges, I wish you the best with this crappy situation.
Hedges, I wish you the best with this crappy situation.
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Car is fixed and i can pickup . I am currently at another dealership to do the work this time (one closer to my house now) instead of where i got the car (few cities over and had the last 5 work done)
This was covered under warranty but here's what was being done through the reports - it was QUITE extensive
Test low pressure fuel system . Reading ok 4. bar. R&R left catalyst and inspect for damage. Open service ticket # 614582141.
Test low pressure fuel system . Reading ok 4. bar. Perform engine compression check . Test high pressure fuel system , ok
200bar. All cylinders @16bar. Test high pressure fuel system , ok 200bar. 52764 52760 52760 52760 Left catalyst ok.
Remove/install lower engine compartment paneling complete Attach all files as requested by tas Test charge air intake system
for leaks. Perform cylinder leakage test , leakage ok 1% over all cylinders Test charge air intake system for leaks. Mechanical
defect R&R all spark-plugs and inspect . Found plug #5 black . R&R left and right inter coolers . Open service ticket #
614582141. R&R left and right inter coolers . Swap coils and check , plug still black. Leakage in fuel system Check, no leaks
found. Found crankcase ventilation kit leaking at left oil separator. Attach all files as requested by tas. Found crankcase
ventilation kit leaking at left oil separator. On-board power supply voltage Maintain (when checking/testing and troubleshooting)
Perform short test. multiple codes. Open service ticket # 614582141. Test low pressure fuel system . Reading ok 4. bar. R&R
left catalyst and inspect for damage. Replace fuel injector #5 . R&R left catalyst and inspect for damage. On-board power
supply voltage Maintain (when checking/testing and troubleshooting) On-board power supply voltage Maintain (when
checking/testing and troubleshooting) Perform quick test, codes P01C82 , P030022, P030500, P219062. Multiple issues Attach
all files as requested by tas Test high pressure fuel system , ok 200bar. Left catalyst ok. Program new injector coding into
engine control unit. Left catalyst ok. Perform quick test, codes P01C82 , P030022, P030500, P219062. Check assembly parts of
engine. Found fuel adaptation readings out of range for left engine bank , cylinders 5,6,7,8. Check assembly parts of engine.
Found fuel adaptation readings out of range for left engine bank , cylinders 5,6,7,8. Perform quick test, codes P01C82 , P030022,
P030500, P219062. Found repairs were done at another mb location . Test charge air intake system for leaks. R&R all spark-
plugs and inspect . Perform engine adaptation. R&R all spark-plugs and inspect . Remove/install lower engine compartment
paneling complete Remove/install lower engine compartment paneling complete create service ticket R&R left and right inter
coolers . Found plug #5 black . Found plug #5 black . Leakage in fuel system Check, no leaks found. Leakage in fuel system
Check, no leaks found. Check assembly parts of engine. Found fuel adaptation readings out of range for left engine bank , cylinders 5,6,7,8. Found crankcase ventilation kit leaking at left oil separator. Swap coils and check , plug still black. Swap coils
and check , plug still black, engine misfiring
52760 Material defect Drain coolant Remove charge air coolers. Replace oil separator.
52764 Oil contaminated due to defective fuel injector. Perform oil and filter change
2764 Electricla fault Perform motor check Found no readings from left air intake temperature sensor. Found wiring broken at
connector Repair wiring harness for intake temperature sensor .
This was covered under warranty but here's what was being done through the reports - it was QUITE extensive
Test low pressure fuel system . Reading ok 4. bar. R&R left catalyst and inspect for damage. Open service ticket # 614582141.
Test low pressure fuel system . Reading ok 4. bar. Perform engine compression check . Test high pressure fuel system , ok
200bar. All cylinders @16bar. Test high pressure fuel system , ok 200bar. 52764 52760 52760 52760 Left catalyst ok.
Remove/install lower engine compartment paneling complete Attach all files as requested by tas Test charge air intake system
for leaks. Perform cylinder leakage test , leakage ok 1% over all cylinders Test charge air intake system for leaks. Mechanical
defect R&R all spark-plugs and inspect . Found plug #5 black . R&R left and right inter coolers . Open service ticket #
614582141. R&R left and right inter coolers . Swap coils and check , plug still black. Leakage in fuel system Check, no leaks
found. Found crankcase ventilation kit leaking at left oil separator. Attach all files as requested by tas. Found crankcase
ventilation kit leaking at left oil separator. On-board power supply voltage Maintain (when checking/testing and troubleshooting)
Perform short test. multiple codes. Open service ticket # 614582141. Test low pressure fuel system . Reading ok 4. bar. R&R
left catalyst and inspect for damage. Replace fuel injector #5 . R&R left catalyst and inspect for damage. On-board power
supply voltage Maintain (when checking/testing and troubleshooting) On-board power supply voltage Maintain (when
checking/testing and troubleshooting) Perform quick test, codes P01C82 , P030022, P030500, P219062. Multiple issues Attach
all files as requested by tas Test high pressure fuel system , ok 200bar. Left catalyst ok. Program new injector coding into
engine control unit. Left catalyst ok. Perform quick test, codes P01C82 , P030022, P030500, P219062. Check assembly parts of
engine. Found fuel adaptation readings out of range for left engine bank , cylinders 5,6,7,8. Check assembly parts of engine.
Found fuel adaptation readings out of range for left engine bank , cylinders 5,6,7,8. Perform quick test, codes P01C82 , P030022,
P030500, P219062. Found repairs were done at another mb location . Test charge air intake system for leaks. R&R all spark-
plugs and inspect . Perform engine adaptation. R&R all spark-plugs and inspect . Remove/install lower engine compartment
paneling complete Remove/install lower engine compartment paneling complete create service ticket R&R left and right inter
coolers . Found plug #5 black . Found plug #5 black . Leakage in fuel system Check, no leaks found. Leakage in fuel system
Check, no leaks found. Check assembly parts of engine. Found fuel adaptation readings out of range for left engine bank , cylinders 5,6,7,8. Found crankcase ventilation kit leaking at left oil separator. Swap coils and check , plug still black. Swap coils
and check , plug still black, engine misfiring
52760 Material defect Drain coolant Remove charge air coolers. Replace oil separator.
52764 Oil contaminated due to defective fuel injector. Perform oil and filter change
2764 Electricla fault Perform motor check Found no readings from left air intake temperature sensor. Found wiring broken at
connector Repair wiring harness for intake temperature sensor .
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I would also tell the other dealer 's GM to send their Master tech and Shop foreman to this dealership's servivce department for an internship.
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Weird, for some reason you said you put a deposit on a cayenne turbo s and then when I actually reply ... you simply said Porsche, I tried refreshing and the words "cayenne turbo s" magically disappeared.
But if you do end up with a cayenne turbo s, at least a V8 wouldn't be one of things you would miss.
But if you do end up with a cayenne turbo s, at least a V8 wouldn't be one of things you would miss.
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Totally done with the AMG stuff.