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Are the current Maybach V12 engines an amg product?
Trying to see if the 2019-2020 S65 are really the end of the line. Looks like they are for the Amg branded cars but not for the engine as it lives on in the Maybach?
Trying to see if the 2019-2020 S65 are really the end of the line. Looks like they are for the Amg branded cars but not for the engine as it lives on in the Maybach?
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It seems MB must have limited torque to 660lb/ft for the Maybach.... Likely to keep front drive parts from failing. Torque is kept high enough such that the Horsepower figure is still 620. Don’t know if turbos are sized smaller then in the S-65.
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I understand the "Final Edition" of the AMG S 65 included 130 copies of a special color combination of black and bronze. Is there a quantity posted somewhere of the amount made that were not part of the 130 final editions?
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Not familiar with numbers of them. 2020 last year of the AMG cars. Disappointing as an amazing product. I have my eye on a 2020 Final Edition.... But would have to give it Carbon Ceramic brakes as Iron just won't do.
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I recently had a chance to purchase a 2020 Final Edition S65 but passed on it because of the lack of Carbon Ceramic brakes. Also not a fan of all-black cars.
The W223 Maybach V12 is limited to 660 lb-ft of torque because that, 900 N-M, is the warranty limit for the 9sp transmission. Similarly the S65 was limited to 738 ft-lb of torque, 1,000 N-M, because that is the 7sp warranty limit. The rated hp is not affected because it is at an RPM well above the torque peak.
The S65 engine makes 736 ft-lb beginning at 2,300rpm. Therefore the 660 ft-lb limit would likely be at 1,900 to 2,000rpm. Even with the two extra gears the reduced low RPM torque will be apparent in a lot of daily use. When I had my previous S65 tuned (Stage 1, peak torque around 820 ft-lb) the increased torque was very apparent in normal driving.
The W223 Maybach V12 is limited to 660 lb-ft of torque because that, 900 N-M, is the warranty limit for the 9sp transmission. Similarly the S65 was limited to 738 ft-lb of torque, 1,000 N-M, because that is the 7sp warranty limit. The rated hp is not affected because it is at an RPM well above the torque peak.
The S65 engine makes 736 ft-lb beginning at 2,300rpm. Therefore the 660 ft-lb limit would likely be at 1,900 to 2,000rpm. Even with the two extra gears the reduced low RPM torque will be apparent in a lot of daily use. When I had my previous S65 tuned (Stage 1, peak torque around 820 ft-lb) the increased torque was very apparent in normal driving.
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There is a "Final Edition" for sale right now on BAT that doesn't have the CC brakes but does have the Magic Sky option. I agree with you on the CC brakes. It's difficult to understand how someone can spend a quarter million and not get the CC brakes on such a high performance AMG Limo.
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In 2020 they "only" made final editions, no other S65 sedans in regular/other specs were produced. 2019 was the last year for regular spec S65 sedan. Neither of these apply to the coupes, which were made through 2021. They produced 2021 S63 and S65 coupes, but no sedans.
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In 2020 they "only" made final editions, no other S65 sedans in regular/other specs were produced. 2019 was the last year for regular spec S65 sedan. Neither of these apply to the coupes, which were made through 2021. They produced 2021 S63 and S65 coupes, but no sedans.
Because I heard the same thing but saw one, I wanted to know how many 2020 S65 sedans were made other than the Final Editions.
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In 2020 they "only" made final editions, no other S65 sedans in regular/other specs were produced. 2019 was the last year for regular spec S65 sedan. Neither of these apply to the coupes, which were made through 2021. They produced 2021 S63 and S65 coupes, but no sedans.
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I heard the same thing before that only the Final Editions were made in 2020 but that is not true. Like I said in previous post today, I have seen a 2020 in Designo White Diamond from the factory. I have also seen the window sticker... Yes it is a 2020.
Because I heard the same thing but saw one, I wanted to know how many 2020 S65 sedans were made other than the Final Editions.
Because I heard the same thing but saw one, I wanted to know how many 2020 S65 sedans were made other than the Final Editions.
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2019 AMG S 65 and too many other vehicles to list here in this small box
Interesting...I saw a silver 2020 S65 posted for sale a couple years ago in California, but I only saw the Youtube video for it and didn't see the VIN. Did you happen to see the VIN for the 2020 Designo White car?? I would assume that if someone wanted a different color and ordered it, that MB would happily oblige, but all the "press" information says they only produced 130 for that model year and they were all the final editions. I don't want to buy one but I'd also like to know.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...5-amg-sedan-2/
2020 S65 Designo White
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Maybe they only did the S63 coupe in 2021 but I thought it was both coupes. Also, I didn't distinguish between the Cabriolet or Coupe, maybe it was the Cab only: https://media.mbusa.com/releases/rel...e%20is%20empty
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Current V-12 is the same six liter and says AMG on many parts of it. Lower boost via electronic control (I don’t know if turbos are downsized) keeps the transmission from going kaboom.
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I can do better than just a VIN... here is the link to the auction 1 year ago on BAT with pics, comments, and the window sticker that I have posted here.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...5-amg-sedan-2/
2020 S65 Designo White
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...5-amg-sedan-2/
2020 S65 Designo White
