Fitted 265/35's on the front and found this
#1
Fitted 265/35's on the front and found this
Fitted my rear 265/35/19's to my front factory cross spoke wheels today.
Surprisingly they fit nicely with the side wall sitting vertical filling the guards nicely.
And found this:
Standard front tyres worn down only in a 300mm section on both left and right tyres on the inside.
The left tyres inner edge is worn down to canvas and would have been close to blowing.
In this 300mm section, the tyre has a valley worn into them.
The left tyre is worn a lot more than the right side with the tread flat on the wear indicators.
Right side tyre is in a lot better condition then the left side.
I knew the outside of the tyres were wearing prematurely but wasn't expecting to see canvas already.
Surprisingly they fit nicely with the side wall sitting vertical filling the guards nicely.
And found this:
Standard front tyres worn down only in a 300mm section on both left and right tyres on the inside.
The left tyres inner edge is worn down to canvas and would have been close to blowing.
In this 300mm section, the tyre has a valley worn into them.
The left tyre is worn a lot more than the right side with the tread flat on the wear indicators.
Right side tyre is in a lot better condition then the left side.
I knew the outside of the tyres were wearing prematurely but wasn't expecting to see canvas already.
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bdpdx (04-01-2017)
#2
You got me a little shook here because I am fitting 265's on my fronts TODAY.
Is this the result of rubbing from them not fitting or from using the old rear tires on the fronts and having unusual wear because of the swap?
Is this the result of rubbing from them not fitting or from using the old rear tires on the fronts and having unusual wear because of the swap?
#4
I think it has to do with switching the rears to the front. The camber/toe in is different on the rear tires than the fronts so, when you switch the tires they have different tread wear from the rears. When you put them on the front they will wear differently because now the tire is running on a different part of the tire and will prematurely wear.
Thats my theory. I surely hope this isn't from rubbing due to the larger footprint..
Thats my theory. I surely hope this isn't from rubbing due to the larger footprint..
#5
I think it has to do with switching the rears to the front. The camber/toe in is different on the rear tires than the fronts so, when you switch the tires they have different tread wear from the rears. When you put them on the front they will wear differently because now the tire is running on a different part of the tire and will prematurely wear.
Thats my theory. I surely hope this isn't from rubbing due to the larger footprint..
Thats my theory. I surely hope this isn't from rubbing due to the larger footprint..
#7
looks pretty good. i have been up in the air on what size to get for summer i decided with 255 and 295 for the rear.
i have a similar wear issue on my tires as well. the inside is practically gone. I am getting an alignment in a few weeks for a few reasons so hopefully my new tires wont see the same issue
i have a similar wear issue on my tires as well. the inside is practically gone. I am getting an alignment in a few weeks for a few reasons so hopefully my new tires wont see the same issue
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#8
BG: I understand the desire to have as big a rear footprint as possible but, the geometry with a 295/255 is going to be way off. The speedo will not be correct and the differential of 40 (295-255) is twice as big as factory of 20 (265-245).
I went with 285/265 which is almost as big as you can go on rear and IS as big as you can go on front. Keeps factory geometry of 20 and speedo will not be affected.
Why did you decide to go with these numbers? You should follow my lead after the way I smoked you at AMG school
PS: Where is my iPad that you stole?
I went with 285/265 which is almost as big as you can go on rear and IS as big as you can go on front. Keeps factory geometry of 20 and speedo will not be affected.
Why did you decide to go with these numbers? You should follow my lead after the way I smoked you at AMG school
PS: Where is my iPad that you stole?
#9
BG: I understand the desire to have as big a rear footprint as possible but, the geometry with a 295/255 is going to be way off. The speedo will not be correct and the differential of 40 (295-255) is twice as big as factory of 20 (265-245).
I went with 285/265 which is almost as big as you can go on rear and IS as big as you can go on front. Keeps factory geometry of 20 and speedo will not be affected.
Why did you decide to go with these numbers? You should follow my lead after the way I smoked you at AMG school
PS: Where is my iPad that you stole?
I went with 285/265 which is almost as big as you can go on rear and IS as big as you can go on front. Keeps factory geometry of 20 and speedo will not be affected.
Why did you decide to go with these numbers? You should follow my lead after the way I smoked you at AMG school
PS: Where is my iPad that you stole?
the wear on the old fronts looks like camber wear and it is common with our and other hi per cars. I would have an alignment before driving the new ones to make sure it is in spec.
If you go to the charts at tire rack you can see that the 265 size is not recommended on a 8 1/2 in wheel. 255 is the largest. Even though it won't rub it is not the correct size as the rim pulls the bead in too far and it will not have a tread flat on the ground.
285 is the largest recommended on the rear 9 1/2 wheels.
#11
I havent experienced any inner or outer guard rubbing using the 265's.
#12
One, the factory camber that AMG dial in as it's a high performance vehicle.
Two, I had the wheel alignment checked and redone when I had the KW HAS kit fitted and my shop told me that my factory alignment was all over the place.
He thought it looked like no wheel alignment was done at the dealership before I took delivery which may have been true as there were numerous issue with my delivery.
After lowering and wheel alignment turning in to corners and going around round abouts feels a lot better.
My set up now it 265/35/19 on the front and 295/30/19 on the rear.
The width has nothing to do with the speedo, and both new size tyres are very close in over all diameter to what it came from factory with.
My advise to thise reading this post:
Conduct regular checks on your tyres especially the fronts, I knew the outter edges of the fronts were wearing but didn't know about the inner so I nearly got caught out having a blow out.
Our factory tyre repair kit would not have gotten me back on the road if this tyre had blown.
#13
I believe it's a combination of two things:
One, the factory camber that AMG dial in as it's a high performance vehicle.
Two, I had the wheel alignment checked and redone when I had the KW HAS kit fitted and my shop told me that my factory alignment was all over the place.
He thought it looked like no wheel alignment was done at the dealership before I took delivery which may have been true as there were numerous issue with my delivery.
After lowering and wheel alignment turning in to corners and going around round abouts feels a lot better.
My set up now it 265/35/19 on the front and 295/30/19 on the rear.
The width has nothing to do with the speedo, and both new size tyres are very close in over all diameter to what it came from factory with.
My advise to thise reading this post:
Conduct regular checks on your tyres especially the fronts, I knew the outter edges of the fronts were wearing but didn't know about the inner so I nearly got caught out having a blow out.
Our factory tyre repair kit would not have gotten me back on the road if this tyre had blown.
One, the factory camber that AMG dial in as it's a high performance vehicle.
Two, I had the wheel alignment checked and redone when I had the KW HAS kit fitted and my shop told me that my factory alignment was all over the place.
He thought it looked like no wheel alignment was done at the dealership before I took delivery which may have been true as there were numerous issue with my delivery.
After lowering and wheel alignment turning in to corners and going around round abouts feels a lot better.
My set up now it 265/35/19 on the front and 295/30/19 on the rear.
The width has nothing to do with the speedo, and both new size tyres are very close in over all diameter to what it came from factory with.
My advise to thise reading this post:
Conduct regular checks on your tyres especially the fronts, I knew the outter edges of the fronts were wearing but didn't know about the inner so I nearly got caught out having a blow out.
Our factory tyre repair kit would not have gotten me back on the road if this tyre had blown.
I know I'm getting into the weeds a bit here, but the wear pattern on the tires shown looks way more like a toe issue and not a camber issue.
A camber issue would typically see an uniform change in wear from one shoulder of the tire to the other, whereas a toe issue is usually isolated to one shoulder in a defined spot with relatively even wear across the rest of the tire.
In your pic, the wear looks fairly even across the tire (look at the tread depth in relation to the wear bar) with a pronounced increase in wear on the immediate shoulder.
#14
I know I'm getting into the weeds a bit here, but the wear pattern on the tires shown looks way more like a toe issue and not a camber issue.
A camber issue would typically see an uniform change in wear from one shoulder of the tire to the other, whereas a toe issue is usually isolated to one shoulder in a defined spot with relatively even wear across the rest of the tire.
In your pic, the wear looks fairly even across the tire (look at the tread depth in relation to the wear bar) with a pronounced increase in wear on the immediate shoulder.
A camber issue would typically see an uniform change in wear from one shoulder of the tire to the other, whereas a toe issue is usually isolated to one shoulder in a defined spot with relatively even wear across the rest of the tire.
In your pic, the wear looks fairly even across the tire (look at the tread depth in relation to the wear bar) with a pronounced increase in wear on the immediate shoulder.
And my shop hop told me everything was out of wake.
What at about the premature ware on the outside of the tyres which I noticed very early on from buying the car.
I have seen that others have complained about this as well.
Left and right 245's tyre, left tyre is back to front I should flipped so the inside edge was inside
Notice that the tread grooves are wore down on the outside edges.
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I know I'm getting into the weeds a bit here, but the wear pattern on the tires shown looks way more like a toe issue and not a camber issue.
A camber issue would typically see an uniform change in wear from one shoulder of the tire to the other, whereas a toe issue is usually isolated to one shoulder in a defined spot with relatively even wear across the rest of the tire.
In your pic, the wear looks fairly even across the tire (look at the tread depth in relation to the wear bar) with a pronounced increase in wear on the immediate shoulder.
A camber issue would typically see an uniform change in wear from one shoulder of the tire to the other, whereas a toe issue is usually isolated to one shoulder in a defined spot with relatively even wear across the rest of the tire.
In your pic, the wear looks fairly even across the tire (look at the tread depth in relation to the wear bar) with a pronounced increase in wear on the immediate shoulder.
#16
Lot of left turns in your daily driving? lol
I regards to the wear, I had very similar wear in my sedan the front and my car was bone stock.
The tires needed replacement when I traded the car in so I avoided the issue.
My rears still had a while to go. It's odd, as I would have thought the rears would have gone first.
I regards to the wear, I had very similar wear in my sedan the front and my car was bone stock.
The tires needed replacement when I traded the car in so I avoided the issue.
My rears still had a while to go. It's odd, as I would have thought the rears would have gone first.
#17
Lot of left turns in your daily driving? lol
I regards to the wear, I had very similar wear in my sedan the front and my car was bone stock.
The tires needed replacement when I traded the car in so I avoided the issue.
My rears still had a while to go. It's odd, as I would have thought the rears would have gone first.
I regards to the wear, I had very similar wear in my sedan the front and my car was bone stock.
The tires needed replacement when I traded the car in so I avoided the issue.
My rears still had a while to go. It's odd, as I would have thought the rears would have gone first.
Keep an eye on your new tyres, hopefully the coupe is better set up than the sedan.
I'll start looking into a front and rear camber kit and if there's anything available to adjust the toe.
I want to get this sorted before getting my new wheels and tyres on.
I dont want want to be buying tyres every year.
#18
Hey Sanch.
Keep an eye on your new tyres, hopefully the coupe is better set up than the sedan.
I'll start looking into a front and rear camber kit and if there's anything available to adjust the toe.
I want to get this sorted before getting my new wheels and tyres on.
I dont want want to be buying tyres every year.
Keep an eye on your new tyres, hopefully the coupe is better set up than the sedan.
I'll start looking into a front and rear camber kit and if there's anything available to adjust the toe.
I want to get this sorted before getting my new wheels and tyres on.
I dont want want to be buying tyres every year.
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#19
A couple of things here. First it won't matter if you keep the ratio the same for the speedo as a rear tire size change will make the speedo to read off.
the wear on the old fronts looks like camber wear and it is common with our and other hi per cars. I would have an alignment before driving the new ones to make sure it is in spec.
If you go to the charts at tire rack you can see that the 265 size is not recommended on a 8 1/2 in wheel. 255 is the largest. Even though it won't rub it is not the correct size as the rim pulls the bead in too far and it will not have a tread flat on the ground.
285 is the largest recommended on the rear 9 1/2 wheels.
the wear on the old fronts looks like camber wear and it is common with our and other hi per cars. I would have an alignment before driving the new ones to make sure it is in spec.
If you go to the charts at tire rack you can see that the 265 size is not recommended on a 8 1/2 in wheel. 255 is the largest. Even though it won't rub it is not the correct size as the rim pulls the bead in too far and it will not have a tread flat on the ground.
285 is the largest recommended on the rear 9 1/2 wheels.
#21
What tyres did you go with?
How has the traction changed with the extra width out back?
#22
I have had this set up for 2 days. I have driven less than 50 miles so I am not one to ask just yet. I went with the Michelin AS/3 Plus. I think thats what they are called. The newest all season Michelin available. Someone on this forum recommended them over the PSS and I looked into them and found they are 85% as good in summer and 200% better in rain and snow so to me it was a no brainer living on the East Coast with snow and rain.
Too early to tell about traction because it is cold and snow is on the ground but, logic would dictate that the grip has to be better with a wider footprint and an all season rubber over the Dunlop's which are known for being very bad in cold, rain and snow..
Too early to tell about traction because it is cold and snow is on the ground but, logic would dictate that the grip has to be better with a wider footprint and an all season rubber over the Dunlop's which are known for being very bad in cold, rain and snow..
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