P0456 P0442 advice CEL
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P0456 P0442 advice CEL
Anyone have experience with these codes . Minor and very evap emissions leak. 2013 g63. Truck runs fine no issues. Benz dealer has changed cap, purge, charcoal, filler neck and keeps coming back on. Now they're saying it's a sensor at the fuel tank and may need to change the fuel tank 5k. Ready to find an independent expert in NY.
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After replacing the fuel filter the evap tests in mode 6 for the gross, medium, and small passed with no problems. I had replaced the purge valve, cannister, and the gas cap before this with no results. The cannister shut off valve is also part of the cannister and is not sold separately from MB. The code first appeared when the car was like 9.5 years old and 82000 miles. There also is a MB service bulletin which recommends that you install the latest software in the ME control unit for P0442 which I had done. Strangely enough the bulletin attributes the cause of the problem to poor quality gas!!! I suppose that if one didn't want to go through the trouble of dropping the tank then you could enlarge the inspection opening in the floor by cutting it and putting a appropriate sized sheet metal to cover it once finished. Dropping the tank was a bear on this so it might be a good option.
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Shouldnt there be a smell? Or maybe it's so minor that's why no smell. Truck runs fine so haven't addressed it much especially since like you said the tank removal is long task
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You may not be able to detect any smell because it could be a very small amount and may have evaporated. If you can take a air blow gun and blow off all the dust then it is ok. If any dust remains stuck and shows ANY sign of caking then it is probably leaking.
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I'm going to check mine again. If I recall it was clean. So u made a pass thru hole to avoid removing the tank ? How did u assemble it back.
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I removed the tank and let me tell you it was a total pain. If you decide to enlarge the opening you can probably take a die grinder and cut it. You then would need to get a sheet metal to cover the now enlarged opening along with drilling 4 new holes to attach the new cover. It's like a 6.5 hour job in the labor guide so it will cost a bundle if you pay someone to do it.
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This was a huge help! I've been chasing these codes for weeks. Changed out the purge valve, shutoff valve, whole charcoal canister, and fuel pressure sensor with no luck. As soon as I saw your photo I went down and pulled the access cover off and cleaned off the top of the tank and there it was. Just filled the gap with some sealant and hopefully this does the trick.
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Keep me posted on that. FYI it sounds like we have same issue and u changed almost everything I did except one supposedly common culprit the fuel filler neck. That didn't helpe but if yours still comes on maybe try that ?
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So far no codes and the rough idle is gone. I hate to think of how much it would cost to have a shop try and troubleshoot it. Why is the access panel smaller than the fuel pump?!