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Old Yesterday | 01:57 PM
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Hello all. I previously owned a 2014 E63 and was pretty active in the W212 AMG forum. Loved the power and the sound but couldn't get over the fear of the M157's propensity for scored cylinders. Yes, I did do the oil pump solenoid mod but by then was looking to move on regardless. Currently own a '22 M340xi. Love the car but absolutely miss having a V8. Am not looking for an F90 M5 as the only years I'm interested in are MY21+ which is currently out of my price range. With that being said, that leaves me looking at the MY18-19 E63S. I am well aware of the more common problems like RMS, cam magnet/sensor, and oil separator leaks as well as random misfires due to plugs/coils. That all being said, those of you that have previously owned the M157 equipped E63, how do you like the M177? Is it harder to work on vs the M157? When I owned my '14 E63, I replaced all the plastic turbo coolant lines, all 4 cam sensors and magnets, as well as one of the rear adaptive shocks.
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I love the M177 over my old M157 for the same scary M157 Reasons. Cylinder scoring, bent rods, lower control arms, CPS Sensors wicking to ECMs, turbo coolant hose leaks, pano-creak, intercooler pump failures

I do enjoy the noises, low end torque, and tighter driving feel of the M157 over the M177.

I think the M177 has so many things sorted properly that even with the RMS/Oil Separators issue it is "worth it" to upgrade.
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
I love the M177 over my old M157 for the same scary M157 Reasons. Cylinder scoring, bent rods, lower control arms, CPS Sensors wicking to ECMs, turbo coolant hose leaks, pano-creak, intercooler pump failures

I do enjoy the noises, low end torque, and tighter driving feel of the M157 over the M177.

I think the M177 has so many things sorted properly that even with the RMS/Oil Separators issue it is "worth it" to upgrade.
Hello! Recognize ya from the W212 forum IT Guy! So about the CPS wicking issue. I read that the issue is still present with the M177. Is this actually true?
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Originally Posted by CZ 75
Hello all. I previously owned a 2014 E63 and was pretty active in the W212 AMG forum. Loved the power and the sound but couldn't get over the fear of the M157's propensity for scored cylinders. Yes, I did do the oil pump solenoid mod but by then was looking to move on regardless. Currently own a '22 M340xi. Love the car but absolutely miss having a V8. Am not looking for an F90 M5 as the only years I'm interested in are MY21+ which is currently out of my price range. With that being said, that leaves me looking at the MY18-19 E63S. I am well aware of the more common problems like RMS, cam magnet/sensor, and oil separator leaks as well as random misfires due to plugs/coils. That all being said, those of you that have previously owned the M157 equipped E63, how do you like the M177? Is it harder to work on vs the M157? When I owned my '14 E63, I replaced all the plastic turbo coolant lines, all 4 cam sensors and magnets, as well as one of the rear adaptive shocks.
Had both. w213 is leagues better than the W212 in every way imaginable.
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Hello! Recognize ya from the W212 forum IT Guy! So about the CPS wicking issue. I read that the issue is still present with the M177. Is this actually true?
I'm not the addressee but the oil in harness issue might be present as well but low to none reported cases so safe to say it is (mostly?) immune it is not a big deal if you install pigtails and kept replacing them when you see them with oil. The oil in harness is a problem in many MB engines.https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...il-sucker.html

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Hello! Recognize ya from the W212 forum IT Guy! So about the CPS wicking issue. I read that the issue is still present with the M177. Is this actually true?
I have not read about any cases.
I'm sure it's possible but doesn't seem prevalent.
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Originally Posted by raudiace4
Had both. w213 is leagues better than the W212 in every way imaginable.
I've also had both and would concur, the 213 is better in every way.
Only niggles for me are the tyre hopping in cold weather, the vision looking out the drivers side window isn't great with the wider door pillar and the incredibly wide turning circle compared to the UK rear wheel drive only 212.
All things I can forgive for its interior and perfomance.
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