SL-Class (R230) 2003 -- 2012: Discussion on the SL500, SL550, SL600

SL/R230: Weight distribution of the SL

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 04:30 AM
  #1  
redbrick's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Weight distribution of the SL

Anyone here know what is the weight distribution of the SL? I'm just curious.

I guess I should add....with the top up and the top down.

(I searched and came up with nothing...so far :-( )

Thanks
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:11 AM
  #2  
Patrick1990's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
.
Originally Posted by redbrick
Anyone here know what is the weight distribution of the SL? I'm just curious.

I guess I should add....with the top up and the top down.

(I searched and came up with nothing...so far :-( )

Thanks
SL means Sport Light, but the weight is... Hold on 1850 in a SL 500 and 1950 in the SL55 AMG the SL600 weights 1950 to, and the SL65 tops with 2110 Kg.
But its killogrames so whatever..only a dane is weird ebnough to use it
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:23 AM
  #3  
LovinMercedes's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 125
2026 Mercedes CLE53A4 AMG Cabriolet and 2025 MAYBACH EQS680V4
Originally Posted by Patrick1990
SL means Sport Light, but the weight is... Hold on 1850 in a SL 500 and 1950 in the SL55 AMG the SL600 weights 1950 to, and the SL65 tops with 2110 Kg.
But its killogrames so whatever..only a dane is weird ebnough to use it
Patrick...read more carefully. He is talking about weight "distribution"

Redbrick, not sure exactly what it is but it is not a perfect balance.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:04 AM
  #4  
Overclocked412's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 154
Likes: 2
From: Ohio
2003 Black SL500
55/45 maybe? I have no clue.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:41 AM
  #5  
Patrick1990's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
.
Yeah i can't read english. Sorry...
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:47 AM
  #6  
Patrick1990's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
.
I'aint sure but i've heard 54/46
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 03:58 PM
  #7  
Overclocked412's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 154
Likes: 2
From: Ohio
2003 Black SL500
According to Yahoo! Autos specs page and theautochannel.com, it is a straight on 50/50. Hmm..
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 04:03 PM
  #8  
ToonArmy's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco Bay Area
2003 SL500
Yahoo! Autos lists it as 50/50 for the SL500
and the SL55
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 04:20 PM
  #9  
Patrick1990's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
.
Originally Posted by ToonArmy
Yahoo! Autos lists it as 50/50 for the SL500
and the SL55
But what if the roof is on..then it would be different...Hm, anyway.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:40 PM
  #10  
CASL55's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
From: Central California Coast
2004 SL55, 2005 E500 Wagon
It sure doesn't feel like 50/50 in the SL55, with the top up or down. This car feels nose-heavy.

Jim
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:49 PM
  #11  
Scruffyone's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 637
Likes: 0
SL55, ML500, GT3 RS, 997C2S
The car is nose heavy, but if you push it hard it will respond and reward you with some very suprising performance.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:58 PM
  #12  
Patrick1990's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
.
Talking

Originally Posted by CASL55
It sure doesn't feel like 50/50 in the SL55, with the top up or down. This car feels nose-heavy.

Jim
It's the power of the star it actualy breath thru the star...or the enging does....very sweet thought ..but whatever, all frontengined cars got nose heavy skills, exept if its front-midengined

Last edited by Patrick1990; Dec 16, 2009 at 05:43 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:58 PM
  #13  
CASL55's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
From: Central California Coast
2004 SL55, 2005 E500 Wagon
Originally Posted by Scruffyone
The car is nose heavy, but if you push it hard it will respond and reward you with some very suprising performance.
You probably didn't mean it this way, but the last thing I want when I push a car hard is any surprise.

If you meant better than expected performance, I do know what you mean, especially at higher speeds. And there's always enough power to compensate for the understeer, if you're not going too fast already. Slow in, fast out works well in this car.

Jim
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 07:05 PM
  #14  
Patrick1990's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
.
Give it some sporttires, or sporttyres as you say in the USA. I'm sure that the car deserve it. or some bigger rims, not the heavy crome-sh*t, some 19" alurims from Mercedes-Benz them self
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 07:13 PM
  #15  
Patrick1990's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
.
Originally Posted by CASL55
You probably didn't mean it this way, but the last thing I want when I push a car hard is any surprise.

If you meant better than expected performance, I do know what you mean, especially at higher speeds. And there's always enough power to compensate for the understeer, if you're not going too fast already. Slow in, fast out works well in this car.

Jim
Understeer..? it kills on the Nürburgring every week. Your gonna give it some tires with lesser grip in the rear and more grip in the front. Because the technology try to avoid a oversteering, but then turns it into understeering..cheat the technology with the grip..or turn it off
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:14 PM
  #16  
vraa's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 28,933
Likes: 12
The car can't be 50/50. It's very nose heavy. Possibly with the top down?

I'm trying to figure out a way to put 9.5's or 10's in the front, and keep 9's in the rear. That should help with understeer.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:27 PM
  #17  
blueSL's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,447
Likes: 14
From: UK
SL55 AMG
The car is not 50/50, more like 54/46. That's one reason why they put the larger battery in the trunk. With the roof down, the centre of gravity will shift backwards but not by much
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:11 PM
  #18  
JackStraw's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 911
Likes: 1
From: Wichita
2005 SL600, 2011 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite
In the 7/02 issue of Automobile magazine, the weight distribution of the SL55 was listed at 51/49%. In the 9/02 issue of Motor Trend, weight distribution was listed at 52/48%. I suspect these are with the top up.

Last edited by JackStraw; Aug 19, 2005 at 10:16 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2005 | 08:55 PM
  #19  
CASL55's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
From: Central California Coast
2004 SL55, 2005 E500 Wagon
Originally Posted by Patrick1990
Understeer..? it kills on the Nürburgring every week. Your gonna give it some tires with lesser grip in the rear and more grip in the front. Because the technology try to avoid a oversteering, but then turns it into understeering..cheat the technology with the grip..or turn it off
There are two points here. I want to deal with your second point first. What I understand you to be saying is that ESP trys to avoid oversteering by causing understeer. First of all, the kind of understeer that I find objectionable isn't enough to cause ESP to intervene, as evidenced by the lack of activation of the indicator light on the instrument panel. Second, on those occasions where I have seen ESP intervene to correct for oversteer, the main seat-of-the-pants effect is lack of forward acceleration, as the ESP retards the throttle and applies the brakes. The resultant forward weight transfer would tend to stop the front wheels from sliding, not start them sliding.

Your first point is that one should deal with understeer though tire sizing, rather than through driving style, as I suggested, and your reference is a race track. I was talking about driving on public roads, and I have found that tire inflation adjustments are valuable in fine-tuning the over/understeer relationship, tire sizing is not. Sway bar sizing may be, but I'd hate to try it on a car with as much suspension automation as the SL55. The reason why tire sizing is not very useful to me on public roads is the difficulty of experimenting, the limitation on tire size imposed by my requirement not to modify the body in order to gain clearance, and my requirement for stock turning radius and full suspension travel. Also, messing with tire size to control low-speed understeer can result in a lot of high-speed oversteer, which is no fun at all.

By controlling the weight transfer during the corner (trail braking to transfer weight to the front wheels, lining up on the apex, then squeexing on the power to get the rear end to step out at the same rate as the now-unloaded front wheels), I find that the SL55's understeering can be reduced to marginally tolerable levels. It's not a race car, and I don't drive it on a race course. You are welcome to take a different approach, if that's what you enjoy.

Jim
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:55 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE