SL-Class (R230) 2003 -- 2012: Discussion on the SL500, SL550, SL600

SL/R230: wheels: chrome lip - black face - white sl - deux

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Old 01-08-2007, 04:47 AM
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wheels: chrome lip - black face - white sl - deux

i've had these on for a few weeks.. same brabus monoblock design.. just
polished lip and painted black inside.. (my old wheels got thrashed thanks to
seattle streets..) lovin' em.. there was another post of black wheels on a
white car.. they definately work for the benz.. i must agree.. much more
menacing of a look.. me thinks..

$999 including shipping for all 4. 20x9 and 20x10.. living in a city full of pot
holes, no sense in buying expensive rims.. i go through rims on my cars
yearly...

what do you guys think.. stick with the black... or?

(please excuse the camera phone resolution )
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2006 MERCEDES WHITE R230 SL500
lovin' the black wheels on the white SL.

we are twins!!!!! stick with the black bro!!!!!!

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Ditto, i'll say stick with black rims.
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I always knew your wheels on your SL55 were replica's. You are what people call "Ballin' on a Budget".

Of course, you always seem to leave out the "replica' part in your posts when you talked about your Brabus wheels:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ghlight=brabus

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ghlight=brabus
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Originally Posted by jl88
I always knew your wheels on your SL55 were replica's. You are what people call "Ballin' on a Budget".

Of course, you always seem to leave out the "replica' part in your posts when you talked about your Brabus wheels:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ghlight=brabus

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ghlight=brabus
Who gives? Either way they look good. You really think he's "balling on a budget" when he drives an SL? He has a valid story for buying one-piece replicas. I would do the exact same in his position, get over it.

I love the black on white. I just bought a White W220 for traveling and put black 20" Axis rims on. It has alot more edge than my CL on silver "real" Brabus rims. I bought my Axis rims for $1000.00 off a member on this website, hints why I put cheap rims on the car I drive hardest. I would post pictures but can't find my cable right now.

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yes i'd rather not spend $8000 on wheels that are just going to get banged up and bent anyways...

obviously you don't live in the downtown of a major city.. there are potholes every other street, parallel parking, valet parkers driving my car, service people, etc.. do i want to really worry about banging up or curbing an expensive set of wheels everytime i go out? been the expensive route before.. and it just aggrevates me more.. i change wheels yearly.. just a fact of living in the city. and if i don't have to pay $20,000 on wheels a year extra for my cars, i'd rather not.

regardless, brabus doesn't make the monoblock with the polished outter rim and painted black center and that is the style I like.

Anyways, I don't have to continue explaining myself to you. If you think the only reason I choose not to spend $8000 on some brabus wheels, because i'm trying to "ball on a budget".. then by all means... you are more than welcome to continue believing that.

BTW: the rims on my porsche and bmw are only one piece wheels as well.

guess i'm balling on a budget with those as well..
Go drive your corolla.

Originally Posted by jl88
I always knew your wheels on your SL55 were replica's. You are what people call "Ballin' on a Budget".

Of course, you always seem to leave out the "replica' part in your posts when you talked about your Brabus wheels:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ghlight=brabus

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ghlight=brabus

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2002 Corolla LE - The G RIDE!!!!
2003 SL500 Black / Berry Red - SOLD
2001 S430 Brilliant Silver - SOLD

Just curious, why the heavy downgrade?
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This is what a real monoblock 6 looks like. I did this back in *2002*:



It's not hard to take apart a wheel and have the lips polished or chromed. Tons of people custom paint the center of the wheels to any color they choose. Think HRE, Iforged, DCR. Are you that retarded?

I live in East Los Angeles. The highways are maintained by Caltrans. Anyone that lives in California can attest to the fact that LA highways are poorly maintained. Only city worst is downtown New York. Curbing or denting your wheels is the cost of ownership. You never get door dings, rock chips, key marks? Hell, your car was broken into, remember? I bet you just used a garbage bag to cover up the broken window since you are ballin' on a budget.

Do everyone a favor. Don't refer to your wheels are Brabus. Because, in fact, they aren't. You should take your car to Brabus NA or CEC and see if they'll call them Brabus wheels.

And lastly, I'm a car dealer. My signature hasn't been updated since 2004. There isn't enough room to list the cars that I own.

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Looks good seattle. Ignore Corolla boy. I don't see the point of bragging about real Brabus....to be honest, they are ugly in silver. They are a plain rim that has been on a million different Mercedes. It's all about how it looks....I would take a set of black knockoffs over a set of ugly authentic rims anyday.

Besides, who really looks at the rim makers anyways.....99% of the people who know cars don't know rims. I went with expensive rims because I wanted the large lip. There are alot of potholes here too but who cares. If they bend, I'll get new ones. If nothing else...it makes you learn to drive a little more careful, which I need help with anyways. I need to get pics up too.

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Originally Posted by mjr24
Looks good seattle. Ignore Corolla boy. I don't see the point of bragging about real Brabus....to be honest, they are ugly in silver. They are a plain rim that has been on a million different Mercedes. It's all about how it looks....I would take a set of black knockoffs over a set of ugly authentic rims anyday.

Besides, who really looks at the rim makers anyways.....99% of the people who know cars don't know rims. I went with expensive rims because I wanted the large lip. There are alot of potholes here too but who cares. If they bend, I'll get new ones. If nothing else...it makes you learn to drive a little more careful, which I need help with anyways. I need to get pics up too.
You really would take knockoffs before authentics? You're obviously lying to yourself.



$221 per wheel. In black.

How much were those lowenharts? $1500 per?

C'mon guys, give me some challenge.
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Yes, if they had the same lip and sizes then that of authentics, I would. You aren't going to find a replica with a 11 inch wide rim and a 5 inch lip. Those rims you showed a pic of, the Dolces, probably are 9 inches wide with a 2 inch lip.

Contrary to what people say, rims are rims. Lowenharts are not made all that much better than some of the knockoffs.
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Like I said, $8000 with paint/labor/tax/shipping to have some wheels
sent to me.. that look almost exactly like the ones I purchased for $999.

I'll stick with the ones I have... and continue "balling on a budget" as you like
to say it.. on my 3 "balling on a budget" automobiles. (all with wheels that
were less than $2000.. oh no.. )

Like I said, I like the style of the rims and i'm not stupid enough to pay
$8,000 for wheels which i'm going to replace in a year anyways from bent up
roads, that look the same as the $999 ones.

It's my car and my choice. If you want to send me the extra $7000 to blow,
i'll gladly order the brabus wheels.. and be extra special.. like you..

To put this in perspective, one can buy a very nice suit for $999 at Boss, or
you can buy an identical looking very nice suit at Kiton or Brioni for $8000.

8 times the price, is one necesarilly THAT much better? Maybe a little bit,
but in the end a nice suit is a nice suit, nice wheels are nice wheels.

I have a sofa in my condo that was $2k that looks practically identical to a
similar one that b&b italia makes for $18k. I didn't even realize this until I
saw it at the b&b store several months later.

Who had the original design? Who cares? I like my sofa and I like the style.
Just as how I like the Brabus Monoblock style, simply I do not like the price,
that is all, and for me to choose not to spend 8 times the price on this style
of wheel, is my choice and my decision.

Some people demand and want the absolute best, price no object, regardless
if the purchase price makes any sense at all, and that is why these niche
items, such as brabus wheels are available. It doesn't mean that people that
choose not to buy them are any better or worse off in the end.

the local b&b also sells a wooden stump seat for $1500. Or I can go out to
the woods and cut a newer, more natural and authentic one myself that
looks exactly the same and is made of the same materials. Is the b&b one
any better, because it has a b&b logo and $1,500 price attached to it?

Cartier or a Philipe Pateke watch that look almost identical, have the same
materials and perform the same functions. Is the individual that buys the
Cartier watch, "balling on a budget"? Need I continue?

Some people like to spend more on certain things. For me, spending $20,000
a year on wheels I have to replace for all my cars is not something I choose
to do. The wheels don't say brabus on them, nor have a brabus logo, so
what is the problem? The easiest way to identify them to others is to tell
people they look like them, but are not of course.

Criticizing and putting someone down for choosing not to spend their hard
earned money on a certain item for their own personal reasons, is petty,
immature and shows your lack of character.

Defining someone else shows the true definition of yourself.

How about.. live your own life and quit telling others how to live theirs and
how to spend their hard earned money.


Originally Posted by jl88

It's not hard to take apart a wheel and have the lips polished or chromed. Tons of people custom paint the center of the wheels to any color they choose. Think HRE, Iforged, DCR. Are you that retarded?

Next?

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So by your reasoning, if you dress like a girl, that mean's you're a female right? Your suit analogy makes no sense. The correct way to say it is buying a suit from Target, SEWING A BOSS LABEL ON IT and claiming it as such.

Ever since you started posting on this forum, you claimed your wheels are Brabus, when in fact, they are not. You lied not once, but multiple times.

Your word is the only thing that matters on this forum since the forum admins do not require posters to actually prove they own the cars. If you're stupid enough to lie about $2,000 wheels, you're stupid enough to lie about multiple cars that you may or may not own.

I'm criticizing you because you are a liar and a poser. I value my word and I am respected by members of this board because I speak the truth, even at the sacrifice of my pride and ego. I don't need to lie.
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What is the point in posting a message criticizing someone else for posting a
valid picture with a valid question?

What kind of positive attribution to this forum do you expect to accomplish
by doing this? We are all SL owners with a passion for our cars, and your
idiotic insults accomplish absolutely nothing, but clutter up this forum.

There is no sense in arguing with an idiot, so i'm ceasing this right now.

Your logic indicates that every forum member here with the replica sl65 amg
wheels, is a poser and a moron, an idiot. sport package wheel replicas?
"balling on a budget", etc..

Your definition of everyone for the decisions they make is childish, immature
and pointless. Let people live and do what they want and keep your idiotic,
negative and unneeded comments to yourself. They don't contribute
anything to this forum. Nothing.

In terms of respect for you, from the previous posting in this thread,
nobody appears to be on your side, but are actually against you.

I have yet to see anyone stand up for you, and I don't blame them. Keep
your negative comments and thoughts to yourself.

I think everyone here can agree, nobody wants to hear them.

In terms of your comments about my new wheels, I never claimed they were
brabus wheels. There is no "B" on the center cap and anyone that asks me,
will receive a clear answer that they are not Brabus Wheels.

I clearly indicated they were not brabus wheels in this post, so why in the
world must you comment negatively about this? What in the world do you
expect to accomplish from such a negative response?

In terms of my previous wheels, I purchased them used and were told they
were authentic brabus wheels, recently to find out they were not. I was
disappointed a little for being taken, but for the price I got them for, I am not
too concerned. Regardless, this posting has nothing to do with my previous
wheels.

Anyways, try living your own life. It's our money, not yours.

And my offer still stands. If you want to send me $7,000 to pay for some
identical looking brabus wheels, let me know.. until then.. zip it.

NOBODY wants to hear it.


Originally Posted by jl88
So by your reasoning, if you dress like a girl, that mean's you're a female right? Your suit analogy makes no sense. The correct way to say it is buying a suit from Target, SEWING A BOSS LABEL ON IT and claiming it as such.

Ever since you started posting on this forum, you claimed your wheels are Brabus, when in fact, they are not. You lied not once, but multiple times.

Your word is the only thing that matters on this forum since the forum admins do not require posters to actually prove they own the cars. If you're stupid enough to lie about $2,000 wheels, you're stupid enough to lie about multiple cars that you may or may not own.

I'm criticizing you because you are a liar and a poser. I value my word and I am respected by members of this board because I speak the truth, even at the sacrifice of my pride and ego. I don't need to lie.

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Do I really have to quote what you said? Reread the links. I am using your own words against you:

i'll settle for a few hundred less than what they have sold for on ebay... do a completed search on ebay for them and see what you come up with and let me know.. have 4000 miles on them, perfect condition.. chrome, no nicks, almost new tires from factory.. got the brabus wheels instead :>
I'm debating on either having my brabus painted gun metal gray like my porsche wheels in the center (and leave the lip alone) or getting some new wheels with this combination.. i think it may look kind of slick with the alabaster/white.. (i don't like the solid black look, chrome lip look that much..) anyone have any pictures of this on an SL, or a similar vehicle with this color combo? benz preferably? thnx
How convenient. You recently found out you were lied to and were sold replicas.

As much as you try to turn this around me, i'm not the one lying about the authenticity of my wheels. YOU are the one lying. YOU are the one trying to justify misrepresenting replica's as authentics. YOU are the one trying to cover up your lies.
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Did you even read what I said? I'll repeat it again:

I told you that I recently discovered that they were not authentic brabus
wheels.

Prior to then, I had thought they were the authentic brabus monoblock when
I purchased them used, per se what the individual told me and upon
inspection, they looked real to me. (I had never seen the brabus monoblock
in person up close.) Like I said, the price was neglible so it wasn't much of a
deal finding out the truth.

Per se my post below several months ago, in the past few months I have
been debating on painting the face of the wheels.

I went to a few wheel places to ask them how much it would cost to have
them painted and the bends in the wheels, nicks, etc.. fixed and upon them
inspecting them, I was notified that they were not authentic brabus
monoblocks, and it would be more cost effective to simply buy the same
wheels with the same style already painted the way I wanted them vs having
them custom painted and repaired, and that is exactly what I did.

Why do you think I just bought replacements of the exact same wheel,
same lip, same width, and same design?

If I had any agenda to not tell the truth, why in the world would I say I didn't
have brabus wheels in this post, but in the previous one? Does that make any
sense?

If I had intended to "lie" or come out more holy than thou, I would have
simply said, I painted my brabus rims black, wouldn't I have?

I didn't. I came out and told everyone I bought a brand new pair of rims for
$999, that I KNOW for a fact are not brabus this time, (they are simply the
same style as the brabus monoblock), as they are from the wheel dealer and
not advertised as brabus, nor does brabus even make them in this color
combination.

Regardless, i'm sure you will make up some ridiculous reason, to justify your
actions, negative and condesencing, for absolutely no reason.

It doesn't even matter my answer to you. You even criticized me saying I
didn't even have any cars. Your entire existance on this forum is to criticize
and be negative, regardless of the truth of the matter, so no answer truth or
false will be satisfactory to your needs. You are a negative person, and thus
you will only believe the negative of any situation.

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Millions of classic and even current cars on the road today ride on "Replica
Wheels" as the original wheels are no longer producted by the factory.

Does this make the owners less than "holy" in thou eyes?

There is NOTHING wrong with replica wheels. Go to a classic car show. What
do you think most of these restored vehicles ride on? Original wheels or
replicas?

Your post implies that millions of people worldwide that drive a car, including
countless on this forum, are, in your words, "balling on a budget" in their
$100,000+ automobile.

Sure, a 50s corvette owner could find some original wheels in mint condition
for an expensive price, or buy some replicas to restore his car and make it
just as nice.

Is he balling on budget? Is the person driving the SL with the SL65 AMG
Wheel Replicas "balling on a budget" because they didn't want to pay $6000
for their wheels? What about the 80s Mercedes owners that are forced to
buy replicas, because the factory doesn't make them anymore?

Are they being cheap, because they aren't spending their time and hard
earned money, hunting down a new and perfect condition pair of original
wheels?

And "what if" I were in a situation where my wheels were too damaged to
drive on, needed replacement due to circumstances beyond my control and
didn't have the money to blow on a $8,000 set of replacement wheels?

For all you know, that could happen to me, you, or anyone else in their life at
certain times.

Does it make you feel better to be judgemental and to criticize because of
someone and their choice in allocating the money they have to other, more
important things than "brabus wheels"?

You are a complete and total ignorant, judgemental, critical and negative
person and I wonder why you must choose to be so miserable and even exist
on this forum, if all you do is criticize people for ridiculous and unfounded
reasons.

It is one thing to have an opinion on a car, but to judge a person without
any merit or cause, simply defines yourself as a miserable person.



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Do I really have to quote what you said? Reread the links. I am using your own words against you:





How convenient. You recently found out you were lied to and were sold replicas.

As much as you try to turn this around me, i'm not the one lying about the authenticity of my wheels. YOU are the one lying. YOU are the one trying to justify misrepresenting replica's as authentics. YOU are the one trying to cover up your lies.

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I agree with who posted above saying they would take black knockoff's before buying that plain silver Authentic Brabus rims. I can't tell you how much better they look. He has a legit story. I am friends with the owner of a rim shop here in Southern California, he hooks up all the luxury/exotic cars around. He told me that over 70% of the cars he does aren't the authentic brands that the center caps say they are. There are so many rims with Asanti center caps that really are some no-name company. But they still look good, who cares?

I do have to confess I do really like the "plain silver" style of Brabus rims that are on my CL..
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This is a stupid argument.

If you are going to be technical and say he is ballin on a budget because you searched his old posts, fine. At the same time, your posts and signature indicate you have a Corolla. When you last updated it is not relevant. If you aren't going to mention what cars you are going to bring to the table, then be quiet. People are always wanting to bring others down on these forums. If you would rather have a C230 with authentic rims over a 55 with fakes, that is your choice....but you are the one lying to yourself then.

Tgood, I think your rims look good. I was simply referring to the 6 spoke BRABUS....which is as played out as the Lowenhart LD1. Whenever I saw the 6 spokes, I would ask myself why people would put such plain rims on an exotic car.

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Originally Posted by mjr24

Tgood, I think your rims look good. I was simply referring to the 6 spoke BRABUS....which is as played out as the Lowenhart LD1. Whenever I saw the 6 spokes, I would ask myself why people would put such plain rims on an exotic car.
Thanks, they aren't edgy like the rims on my S430 but on a white car they look good. Those 6-spoke Brabus rims are extremly plain. I feel the same way, and I'd rather keep my stock rims on than put those on.
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Well I would rather have the Brabus, however Ballin on a Budget is something many of us do unless money is no concern to you...I mean when I leased my SL I took time to get an incredible deal...hell just buying my SL means I was on a budget because it really wasnt my 1st choice....I would have taken a 65 anyday...either way a 1 piece rim is fine as long as it has no spacers, IMO.

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Well this is the arguement that has a simple solution. For those that see the value in spending 4,000.00 (as I do) and more on your wheels, go right ahead and enjoy them. For those those that doesn't see the value in spending a grip on wheels for your vehicle, you now have more choices than ever. There are now inexpensive wheels that come hub centric, accepts your TPMS sensors, accepts your factory center caps, and staggered fitments.
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All I know is that I paid $7000 for my Asanti's and I am tired of them after maybe not even 6 months of ownership

I want new wheels but I can't justify paying another $7000-$8000 for new wheels in the same year.
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Originally Posted by Mrdredd
All I know is that I paid $7000 for my Asanti's and I am tired of them after maybe not even 6 months of ownership

I want new wheels but I can't justify paying another $7000-$8000 for new wheels in the same year.
Well the option would be to sale those wheels with the tires, prob can get about 4-5K and buy another set of different wheels. There are alot of other options that aren't quite 7grand and the quality is just as good if not better.
For example, Iforged has a new VIP line (For luxo vehicles), multi piece, forged, and offers a choices of finishes.

http://www.d2autosport.com/D2_2006/0...ls_iforged.htm
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That is the one advantage of getting expensive rims is that you will be able to take them off one day and get a decent amount for them. In other words, you aren't paying as much overall as you might think assuming you buy 6k rims and sell them for 3500 when you sell the car.

D2 makes a good point though....there are more rims out now for cheaper prices that look good, fit, etc. as opposed to 3-4 years ago.
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Originally Posted by jl88
I'm criticizing you because you are a liar and a poser. I value my word and I am respected by members of this board because I speak the truth, even at the sacrifice of my pride and ego. I don't need to lie.
Sadly while you were busy building up your ego and self pride, you forgot to learn anything about manners. Some of have to work for a living and have limited resources to spend on the car, or have more needing priorities.

Thank god I will never have the chance of meeting you in the flesh.

Malcolm


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