jonnyml500

This is a beautiful car, original owner, been babied and well taken care of. Lots of elegant upgrades. Serious buyers only please. contact jonnyvu@qccredit.com

After market Upgrades:
- Renntech air intake
- Renntech ECU (chipped)
- EVO pully kit upgrade
- European side convex mirrors (no more blind spots)
- Costume exhaust with great deep sound
- Front lip spoiler by Carlson
- Lighted door sills
- Hyper White Xenon bulbs
- Valentine Radar detector clean install (400.00 optional)
- Remote roof module (optional 300.00)
- Custom Speedometer housing (Matching Silver color)
- After market Sirius Radio
- Clear Amor bra all around
- 20” rims with Continental Sport compact 3 tires with only about 2,000 on it
- Rear spoiler
- Clear corner lights
- Elegant chrome trims
- Used in many models shoots

OEM:
- Fully loaded
- Multi contour seats (seat massager)
- Keyless go
- Parktronics
- Panoramic roof
- AMG sport package
- Heating and Cooling seat settings
- Plays MP3 on head unit
- Voice command
- Wood Trim

Spec: 2005 SL 500
Mileage: 28,000
Price: 75,888 Firm
Color: Silver and Ash interior

More Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/jonnyvu/SL500

SL2003driver

Do you know that you can walk into a MB dealership today and buy a brand new 2008 for $19K off MSRP. Were talking about a well equiped new SL with 4 years and 50K miles of warranty for around $83K. Not that your SL isn't a beautiful car but it might be really tough to find someone that would want to pay that kind of money.

lkirchner

Your car is very nice but it is over priced. You can get an '05 SL55 for less money and get more car as well.

jmejones

If you add up all his aftermarket add ons, you'll be hard pressed to do it for less than what he's selling it for. Buy an 2005 for 60Gs and you still can't do all that for less than 15 more...IMHO...this is America...it only takes one person to buy it.

mjr24

Nice car but severely overpriced.
I am seeing 03's with similar mileage go for $35k. Two years and some upgrades aren't worth $40k more.

SL2003driver

Based on the upgrades on your car, I know you want that to be true

AMGNSX996TT

Lesson learned...never try to post your car for sale on a forum board. There's way too many experts. I'm surprised no one dug up Manheim auction prices. Either way, the market's gonna be soft (that's why I buy used CPO instead).

jl88

Manheim prices, eh? Aftermarket parts rarely add to the resale value of the car. His car is still under warranty, so comparing to 03's isn't the same since they are most likely out of warranty. You're better off parting the car out. Been there, done that, with multiple cars.

01/08/08 FAAO Regular $52,000 14,012 Above REWTER 8G A Yes
01/08/08 FAAO Lease $48,000 30,591 Avg WHITE 8G A Yes
01/09/08 ATLANTA Lease $49,000 21,943 Avg BRI SIL 8G A Yes
01/09/08 ATLANTA Lease $46,000 36,094 Avg PEWTR 8G A Yes
01/09/08 ATLANTA Lease $46,000 33,994 Avg DES SIL 8G A Yes
01/10/08 W PALM Lease $36,300 70,777 Below BRI SIL 8G A No
01/10/08 CHICAGO Lease $41,500 29,458 Below SILVER 8G A Yes
01/11/08 MANHEIM Regular $48,500 34,526 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/15/08 FAAO Regular $45,000 19,486 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/16/08 W PALM Lease $51,000 17,863 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
01/16/08 W PALM Lease $48,600 26,077 Avg BRI SIL 8G A Yes
01/16/08 W PALM Lease $47,600 21,578 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/16/08 W PALM Lease $42,000 45,725 Below BRI SIL 8G A Yes
01/16/08 W PALM Lease $40,500 44,898 Below DIA SIL 8G A No
01/17/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $47,250 25,205 Avg PEWTER 8G A Yes
01/17/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $47,000 23,224 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
01/17/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $46,000 22,285 Avg C946 GRN 8G A Yes
01/17/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $44,500 16,820 Avg MAROON 8G A Yes
01/17/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $43,500 22,490 Avg GRY 723 8G A Yes
01/17/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $39,500 37,328 Below BLUE 8G A Yes
01/17/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $38,000 50,463 Below BLACK 8G A No
01/17/08 ATLANTA Lease $42,500 37,031 Avg FIR 8G A Yes
01/22/08 DFW Lease $46,250 29,451 Avg MCH BLK 8G A Yes
01/22/08 DFW Lease $43,000 28,430 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/24/08 DFW Lease $43,000 26,290 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/24/08 ATLANTA Lease $44,100 20,811 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/25/08 MANHEIM Regular $48,000 27,878 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/30/08 W PALM Regular $49,200 26,582 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/30/08 W PALM Regular $48,200 12,687 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/30/08 W PALM Lease $41,200 39,978 Below BRI SIL 8G A Yes
01/30/08 W PALM Lease $40,600 46,588 Below ALB WHT 8G A No
01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $50,500 10,948 Above C744 SLV 8G A Yes
01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $46,250 19,774 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $45,000 29,389 Avg BRI SIL 8G A Yes
01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $44,500 34,042 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $41,250 40,127 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
02/01/08 MANHEIM Lease $48,500 24,164 Avg GREY 8G O Yes

Murtaza

That price is really high, just a few grand lower then what I paid for mine which was an 06 with 3k miles....and that was a year ago.

winsound

nice care, Where do you get your rear lip spoiler?who make it?
thanks

mjr24

Maybe, but those Mannheim prices are sure alot closer to 35k than 75k.

I don't supposed you could post up recent Mannheim prices for the 55, could you?

bltserv

+1
Thats about what my car is worth. Maybe even less in the soft market.
The goodies are nice but the AMG is worth far more and less were made.
2005 SL55 around 1500 units only. Way more car entirely in the 55.

Your about $ 20K high for a quick cash sale. As a trade your dealer will bend you over even more..... Sorry.

I see your in the Mortgage business. www.qccredit.com so you KNOW how soft the market is and how tight cash is.

jl88

There's a lot more to a sale than just the dollar amount. There are a lot of differences in a 03 and a 05 besides the dollar amount. A buyer is most likely going to spend more money to purchase a car with a warranty, hence, easier to sell. In addition, the 03 will typically have 2 more years of wear on the car, both on the external paint and the interior. The most evident is on the driver seat, which we call E&E (entry and exit) wear.

This is why I hate hate hate HATE when people just randomly throw up Manheim MMR numbers without any sort of explanation or reasoning. Selling and buying a car is not that easy of a transaction and pure numbers simplify it too much. The MMR numbers are next to useless unless you have experience with auto auctions, the nature of the business, leasing cycles, etc etc. It's a good starting point, but by no means is it the deciding factor in selling/buying a car.

A good evidence is running MMRs of 2006 Ferrari F430 versus 2005 Ferrari F430. The 2006 prices are LOWER than the 2005 prices. Why is that even possible?! You would only know if you were at the auto auction and saw the frame damage on the car, the poor repaint, or the branded title. None of that is on the MMR.

01/16/08 W PALM Regular $70,000 10,276 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/16/08 W PALM Lease $66,000 17,581 Avg BRI SIL 8G A Yes
01/16/08 W PALM Lease $61,000 20,493 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/17/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $45,500 58,599 Below BLACK 8G A No
01/29/08 FAAO Lease $64,500 6,242 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $46,500 45,538 Below SIL 744 8G A No

SL2003driver

Based on this car and its mod's it has no warranty. It would be voided by MB the minute they looked at it.

jl88

Not necessarily.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/.../warranty.shtm

If you live in a city where aftermarket cars are common (like Los Angeles), service advisors see this stuff all the time. His mods are minor engine modifications. Depending on what went wrong with the car, the warranty is still in effect.

And of course, if he parts the car out, like I recommended, no one would know the difference.

If you're unfortunate enough to live in a bum**** state with stubborn service advisors, you may run into resistance. But with new car dealers selling aftermarket modifications, things have changed a lot in the past 10 years.

CY

+1

SL2003driver

I don't like to go into a dealership and hope that if something is broken that the service advisor has good will and lets me slide through. If you mod the engine and it changes the power output in anyway you just screwed the warranty. The dealer doesn't have to prove anything you do. It will cost you more to prove you did not cause the transmission problem with the increased power you added to the engine then it would cost to put in a new transmission. You don't have the deep pockets that MB does for legal fees. If you do then you would not care about a warranty to begin with. I've seen guys with modded exhuast systems have their whole powertrain warranty canceled. Chrysler did not have to prove anything, they were just out their warranty.

lorinserbenz

75k???

Send me what you are smoking... must be the REAL good!

Dragoncoach

Maybe the prices on the SL's are going back up! If they are, then my SL won't keep taking depreciation hits and I can sell it for more than I bought it for....yea right! $75k would be nice though. Most upgrades don't enhance the value of the car because they are being used. Would you pay full retail for a used product?

Bigdot

haha, thats 15K more than we payed for our Brabus T-12 SL600!

So Cal Sam

Hey jl88,

How do you read those listings you posted from the Manheim auctions?

What is the Manheim auctions anyway?

Is it possible for the general public to access that info?

Thanks

jl88

I'm not the only one with access to this information, but i'm one of the few people that actually attend auctions and see cars first-hand.

Columns are:
Date - Auction location - Type of sale (regular sale versus lease turn-in) - selling price (does not include manheim fees, post-sale inspection, or any sort of repairs by the buyer) - mileage - how manheim "evaluates" the car - color - cylinders - transmission - whether or not the sale is included in the auction averages

Manheim auctions are the most popular type of dealer-wholesale car auctions. You have to be licensed to attend. The types of sales are dealer to dealer, lessor to dealer, repo to dealer, etc.

And no, it's not public.

mjr24

JL, what are the different Mannheim grades. I see some average....some below, etc. How are they evaluated....I mean what is it based on?

So Cal Sam

Another question: The listings you posted first from the manheim auctions were all presumably MB SL500's. Is that correct and where does it list the year?

jl88

Honestly, I have no idea. I've seen lemon-laws evaluated as average. I've seen lemon-lawed cars rated as good as well (low miles, recent model year)

Frame damage cars can also be rated as average as well.

It's very inconsistent and I have no idea how Manheim rates the cars.