SL/R230: Has anyone installed AMG exhaust on SL600?
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Has anyone installed AMG exhaust on SL600?
I'm thinking about replacing the stock exhaust to AMG one.
I'm wondering how loud the exhaust sound is like. Cons and Pros.
I do not want a really loud and annoying sound, but want to achieve a deep low tone and sportier look. Thanks
I'm wondering how loud the exhaust sound is like. Cons and Pros.
I do not want a really loud and annoying sound, but want to achieve a deep low tone and sportier look. Thanks
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Well I have no experience of the 600 but I'm going to assume the exhaust set up is similar to the 500 of which I now have great knuckle bruising experience.
If that's the case then you would have a very restrictive merge pipe just behind the secondary cats. The 55 has separate pipes front to tip. With this gone and adding the 55's resonators which are essentially straight through boxes with silencing wadding combined with the 55 mufflers, again straight through will definitley give you a deeper tone.
If the standard 600 muffler is the same as the 500 then this is extremely restictive and very quiet so that will make a difference straight away. I expect it will be too loud without the middle resonators but that's your choice.
The main thing is separating the left and right bank of cylinders by removing the merge pipe. How best to describe the result? Well it sort of slows the sound down, i.e. you hear the thump of the left bank then the thump of the right rather than the two mixed together.
Of course if the the 600 setup is nothing like the 500 then I'm talking horse sh*t so please ignore.
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If that's the case then you would have a very restrictive merge pipe just behind the secondary cats. The 55 has separate pipes front to tip. With this gone and adding the 55's resonators which are essentially straight through boxes with silencing wadding combined with the 55 mufflers, again straight through will definitley give you a deeper tone.
If the standard 600 muffler is the same as the 500 then this is extremely restictive and very quiet so that will make a difference straight away. I expect it will be too loud without the middle resonators but that's your choice.
The main thing is separating the left and right bank of cylinders by removing the merge pipe. How best to describe the result? Well it sort of slows the sound down, i.e. you hear the thump of the left bank then the thump of the right rather than the two mixed together.
Of course if the the 600 setup is nothing like the 500 then I'm talking horse sh*t so please ignore.
David
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its stuff like this that make me think "SL600s are such a bad buy and only people dumb enough to spend that much money for a V12 do it...the SL55 gets more bang for the buck"
really...the price difference between a 500 and 600 is huge when new (thats why I can only afford used).....but the stuff you get in the 600 doesnt really justify that difference...
The exhaust setup is the same as the 500....pretty much everything else is too...
except:
engine
alcantara headliner
brakes
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nevertheless..I still love the car
really...the price difference between a 500 and 600 is huge when new (thats why I can only afford used).....but the stuff you get in the 600 doesnt really justify that difference...
The exhaust setup is the same as the 500....pretty much everything else is too...
except:
engine
alcantara headliner
brakes
the badge
![smash](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smashfreak.gif)
nevertheless..I still love the car
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its stuff like this that make me think "SL600s are such a bad buy and only people dumb enough to spend that much money for a V12 do it...the SL55 gets more bang for the buck"
really...the price difference between a 500 and 600 is huge when new (thats why I can only afford used).....but the stuff you get in the 600 doesnt really justify that difference...
The exhaust setup is the same as the 500....pretty much everything else is too...
except:
engine
alcantara headliner
brakes
the badge
![smash](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smashfreak.gif)
nevertheless..I still love the car
really...the price difference between a 500 and 600 is huge when new (thats why I can only afford used).....but the stuff you get in the 600 doesnt really justify that difference...
The exhaust setup is the same as the 500....pretty much everything else is too...
except:
engine
alcantara headliner
brakes
the badge
![smash](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smashfreak.gif)
nevertheless..I still love the car
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I was wondering how SL600 would turn out with AMG exhaust muffler if I swap the exhaust system. The loudness and the feel of SL600 with AMG muffler.
As you know, SL600 is very very quiet and smooth. I just need a little more bass tone.
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There's a Utube clip somewhere of an S600 with pretty much no silencing at all. Someone said they thought it sounded like a nitro burning tractor which is a little unkind but fairly accurate.
So it sounds as if the 600 and 500 set up is similar in which case the full AMG cat back system should give you what your're after. Whether you change out the merge pipe is up to you but I would recommend you consider it but at least you could have this done in 2 stages to assess the result.
If in doubt, do it! it's only a bunch of pipes afterall.
David
PS/ found the clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4QUumR6p8
So it sounds as if the 600 and 500 set up is similar in which case the full AMG cat back system should give you what your're after. Whether you change out the merge pipe is up to you but I would recommend you consider it but at least you could have this done in 2 stages to assess the result.
If in doubt, do it! it's only a bunch of pipes afterall.
David
PS/ found the clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4QUumR6p8
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PS/ found the clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4QUumR6p8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4QUumR6p8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qcn...eature=related
Thats the straight piped version
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Thank you for your information.
I belive that the AMG supercharged V8 engine and bi-turbo V12 engine make different sounds. V12 bi-turbo is alot lot quieter than the supercharged V8. The clip shows the S65 AMG, not the V12 engine with AMG exhaust sound.
Thanks..
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Thats the stock exhaust video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qcn...eature=related
Thats the straight piped version![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qcn...eature=related
Thats the straight piped version
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AMG V12's are quiet because of the turbos.
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IHMO you are wasting money to put an AMG exhaust on your SL600. Just remove the mufflers and put in straight pipes. It sounds wonderful and cost me all of $200. Any good muffler shop can do this for you. You will get more power and a lovely 12 cylinder sound.
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The AMG/55 exhaust has a nice growl to it at wide open throttle--sounds like a 70's muscle car. However with the twin turbos on your 600 you are not going to get the same effect because the turbos are going to muffle the the flow and therefor the sound.
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Maybe there is a chance to get some pictures of removing mufflers and all this process? Which mufflers and etc?
Just to see how it looks before and after, so even to know, what have to do?
Thanks.
Just to see how it looks before and after, so even to know, what have to do?
Thanks.
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I had the Eisenmann race exhaust put on my 600. It is a big job as it is dual exhaust and everything around has to be removed to get at it. It has a better sound than stock but it is not as nice as an SL55 or even the ML63 sound. I should have tried it without the middle resonators. Of course it looks a lot better with the dual tips on each side. To do it right you need the AMG rear skirt so the dual tips will fit. Then to make it all match you may want the AMG side skirts and then the front skirt. It never ends.
I dont see the comparison to the 500? Stock the 600 is a slightly faster car than the 55. Chip it and you have close to SL65 power. Lower it and put on 19's and the handling is much improved.
I dont see the comparison to the 500? Stock the 600 is a slightly faster car than the 55. Chip it and you have close to SL65 power. Lower it and put on 19's and the handling is much improved.