SL/R230: RennTech upgrades for R230
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RennTech upgrades for R230
RennTech now has the following for the 2003 SL500:
Renntech/Brembo 14" brake kits.
6 liter displacement conversion (410 HP)
5.5 Renntech/AMG supercharger and
displacement conversion (477 HP)
Renntech/Brembo 14" brake kits.
6 liter displacement conversion (410 HP)
5.5 Renntech/AMG supercharger and
displacement conversion (477 HP)
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sl500 1998/ferrari 355gts 1997
Not surprised. I've always thought that Renntech was kind of expensive--$30-$45K for a 5L to 6L conversion seems like a lot. All their stuff seems expensive.
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Re: RennTech upgrades for R230
Originally posted by E55 KEV
RennTech now has the following for the 2003 SL500:
5.5 Renntech/AMG supercharger and
displacement conversion (477 HP)
RennTech now has the following for the 2003 SL500:
5.5 Renntech/AMG supercharger and
displacement conversion (477 HP)
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The price is not listed on their website so call or email them. Go to:
www.renntechmercedes.com
You will have to send/take your car to Florida for the work.
www.renntechmercedes.com
You will have to send/take your car to Florida for the work.
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HEHE....you seem to do a lot of advertising on this board Kleeman
not that your products are bad, i'm sure they're great products and offer great bang for the buck. Enjoy.
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not that your products are bad, i'm sure they're great products and offer great bang for the buck. Enjoy.
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I have been acused of worse- seriously, Im an enthusiast like evryone else here. My company provides products for enthusiasts- I cant help it!
Some people actually enjoy having access to me- either for information or for someone to attack- both are worth the price of admission.
I have been acused of worse- seriously, Im an enthusiast like evryone else here. My company provides products for enthusiasts- I cant help it!
Some people actually enjoy having access to me- either for information or for someone to attack- both are worth the price of admission.
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OK, so here is what MB - AMG says about their supercharger;
Now point for point what is the dif. between Kleeman and thier stuff?
The impressive power development in the eight-cylinder engine is largely down to a newly developed belt-driven supercharger that generates about 30 percent more charge pressure than other comparable belt-driven
supercharging systems. Rotating at over 25,000 rpm, the compressor's aluminium rotors press some 1600 kilograms of air per hour into the combustion chambers. The screw-type compressor is connected to
the crankshaft by means of an electromagnetic clutch and a separate poly-V-belt, thus enabling it to spontaneously react when the driver presses the accelerator and provide powerful thrust at engine speeds
barely above idling speed.
supercharging systems. Rotating at over 25,000 rpm, the compressor's aluminium rotors press some 1600 kilograms of air per hour into the combustion chambers. The screw-type compressor is connected to
the crankshaft by means of an electromagnetic clutch and a separate poly-V-belt, thus enabling it to spontaneously react when the driver presses the accelerator and provide powerful thrust at engine speeds
barely above idling speed.
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
30% more charge pressure? What I think they mean is a screw type has a 30% mass airflow advantage compared to a Roots at the same pressure.
Kilograms per hour is simply a mass measurement of airflow- what you need to know to make ANY sense of this is at what engine speed? One would imagine its at max engine speed so you can quote big numbers. Hows this: the AMG engine makes 469hp @ 1600 kg/hr the KLEEMANN system makes 530hp @ 1120 kg/hr!! Whats more impressive?
Electromagnetic clutch?? be cause there is no bypass!! In "clutch off" mode the engine has to spin the dead weight of the rotors to ingest the air required to run- this is nothing to brag about in my book. The clutch is just one more control system and part to wear out and fail. The super secret reason MBZ does this is to abate SC noise at idle- when there is no road noise tomask the SC noise. There is no "performance" reason to do this. Nice spin eh?
The SC MBZ uses is an IHI (Japan) unit that uses Lysholm rotor profiles- screw kompressors are largely identical in efficiencies, adiabatic and otherwise. 25,000 RPM is VERY misleading. Screw kompressors have a male and female rotor, one turning at 1.5 times the speed of the other (typically). They must be talking about the "fast" rotor. If they are talking about the drive ratio to the crank Im scared for all the about to be AMG owners. Most screw kompressors are rated at 16,000 RPM max sustained RPM. KLEEMANN systems spin 13,000 RPMs at max engine speed- slow speed = long life.
They dont even mention their intercooler- cant say I blame them as it has one of the worst efficiencies Ive ever seen. Charge temp is where its at- 8 psi at 280F will make less power than 6 psi at 150F. Big boost numbers and huge quantifications of mass flow are BS with out the power to back it up. KLEEMANN makes 60 MORE HP at 2.5 psi LESS pressure.
30% more charge pressure? What I think they mean is a screw type has a 30% mass airflow advantage compared to a Roots at the same pressure.
Kilograms per hour is simply a mass measurement of airflow- what you need to know to make ANY sense of this is at what engine speed? One would imagine its at max engine speed so you can quote big numbers. Hows this: the AMG engine makes 469hp @ 1600 kg/hr the KLEEMANN system makes 530hp @ 1120 kg/hr!! Whats more impressive?
Electromagnetic clutch?? be cause there is no bypass!! In "clutch off" mode the engine has to spin the dead weight of the rotors to ingest the air required to run- this is nothing to brag about in my book. The clutch is just one more control system and part to wear out and fail. The super secret reason MBZ does this is to abate SC noise at idle- when there is no road noise tomask the SC noise. There is no "performance" reason to do this. Nice spin eh?
The SC MBZ uses is an IHI (Japan) unit that uses Lysholm rotor profiles- screw kompressors are largely identical in efficiencies, adiabatic and otherwise. 25,000 RPM is VERY misleading. Screw kompressors have a male and female rotor, one turning at 1.5 times the speed of the other (typically). They must be talking about the "fast" rotor. If they are talking about the drive ratio to the crank Im scared for all the about to be AMG owners. Most screw kompressors are rated at 16,000 RPM max sustained RPM. KLEEMANN systems spin 13,000 RPMs at max engine speed- slow speed = long life.
They dont even mention their intercooler- cant say I blame them as it has one of the worst efficiencies Ive ever seen. Charge temp is where its at- 8 psi at 280F will make less power than 6 psi at 150F. Big boost numbers and huge quantifications of mass flow are BS with out the power to back it up. KLEEMANN makes 60 MORE HP at 2.5 psi LESS pressure.
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that AMG quote, is the worst bla.bla. bla. story I ever read.
There is not one word telling anything important for a supercharged engine.
Who cares how many kilo of air they can put into the engine, what
matters is at what temperature do they force the air into the engine, which compression ratio do they have ect.ect.
There is not one word telling anything important for a supercharged engine.
Who cares how many kilo of air they can put into the engine, what
matters is at what temperature do they force the air into the engine, which compression ratio do they have ect.ect.
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