SL/R230: ABC Preventative Maintenance
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ABC Preventative Maintenance
Hi,
Had my 2004 SL500 for nearly 6 months now and I'm just about ahead of the problems it came with - the usual stuff, fixed with help from everyone here.
Current mileage is 56,000 and as much as I try not to drive it every day, it's so good to drive the mileage is climbing!
I think I'm reaching the point where ABC problems are likely to occur. I've read posts suggesting preventative maintenance might help or at least delay the need for costly ABC repairs. Can anyone suggest the right steps to take to try and stay ahead of ABC problems?
Thanks
Gary
Had my 2004 SL500 for nearly 6 months now and I'm just about ahead of the problems it came with - the usual stuff, fixed with help from everyone here.
Current mileage is 56,000 and as much as I try not to drive it every day, it's so good to drive the mileage is climbing!
I think I'm reaching the point where ABC problems are likely to occur. I've read posts suggesting preventative maintenance might help or at least delay the need for costly ABC repairs. Can anyone suggest the right steps to take to try and stay ahead of ABC problems?
Thanks
Gary
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Agree with UT. If fluid is not fresh (translucent green) then flush it liberally, work the valves with a spirited drive and raise/lower the height. To really do the flush right take it to and indy (or a knowledgeable friend) who has the SDS and can do the rodeo routine to really work the valves and heat the fluid. Change the filter. I believe only the newer 3 micron is available now but just want to ensure that is the one you get. Otherwise, if no other symptoms, enjoy. If you are inclined to get way ahead of the curve you can replace the accumulators. They do wear with time/pressure. But they way I understand those is they work until they don't (membrane is pierced so pressure goes). Mark
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If you have the time, may I humbly suggest this thread and this blog:
https://mbworld.org/forums/m275-v12-...on-thread.html
http://mercedes-abc-drive-carefully.blogspot.co.uk/
https://mbworld.org/forums/m275-v12-...on-thread.html
http://mercedes-abc-drive-carefully.blogspot.co.uk/
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Thank you all.
The car will be going into the shop soon for a transmission fluid change. I will talk to them about changing the ABC fluid, filter and running a rodeo.
Gary
The car will be going into the shop soon for a transmission fluid change. I will talk to them about changing the ABC fluid, filter and running a rodeo.
Gary
#6
Hi it is worth fitting a magnet filter On the return.
If you are able with tools then with a friend you can Change the oil and the filter.
I have found the magnet filter to be beneficial to the abc system.
Kind regards.
If you are able with tools then with a friend you can Change the oil and the filter.
I have found the magnet filter to be beneficial to the abc system.
Kind regards.
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Agree with UT. If fluid is not fresh (translucent green) then flush it liberally, work the valves with a spirited drive and raise/lower the height. To really do the flush right take it to and indy (or a knowledgeable friend) who has the SDS and can do the rodeo routine to really work the valves and heat the fluid. Change the filter. I believe only the newer 3 micron is available now but just want to ensure that is the one you get. Otherwise, if no other symptoms, enjoy. If you are inclined to get way ahead of the curve you can replace the accumulators. They do wear with time/pressure. But they way I understand those is they work until they don't (membrane is pierced so pressure goes). Mark
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hi, contact this people and buy teflon products for prevantiv treatment. i used on my 2004 , with collapsed both front suspension that was leaking alot . problem fixed with stuff that they have that make the rubber expand little bit . this is over 5 years ago, and new owner has not done anything with ABC system or neither had any wrong.
if your oil level is low in the oil holder, you also will get flashing red sign dash when its bumpy
everyone that has mercedes with system, should teflon treat the system, less wear, and heat
also they engine gear box treatment fanstastic
http://www.qmiitw.com/QMI_Engine.html
TRUST me guys on this, i dont make any money on this stuff they have, but used it for more than 20 years now with good result .
my cars get engine treatment, gearbox treatment, differential treatment, power steering system, ABC system very short time after i buy , i i been driving my 4 mercedes i had, like i have stolen them, very hard driving after engine is warmed up. And never touched the drive train on any of them.. 0 costs .. just oil and filters
Change your engine oil to 5 - 40 Royal Purple and your oil use will go down 4 times, maybe more. use 0 - 40 is for idiots that drive hard right after start . filling 1 q every month is not good,, oil just running thru the engine
if your oil level is low in the oil holder, you also will get flashing red sign dash when its bumpy
everyone that has mercedes with system, should teflon treat the system, less wear, and heat
also they engine gear box treatment fanstastic
http://www.qmiitw.com/QMI_Engine.html
TRUST me guys on this, i dont make any money on this stuff they have, but used it for more than 20 years now with good result .
my cars get engine treatment, gearbox treatment, differential treatment, power steering system, ABC system very short time after i buy , i i been driving my 4 mercedes i had, like i have stolen them, very hard driving after engine is warmed up. And never touched the drive train on any of them.. 0 costs .. just oil and filters
Change your engine oil to 5 - 40 Royal Purple and your oil use will go down 4 times, maybe more. use 0 - 40 is for idiots that drive hard right after start . filling 1 q every month is not good,, oil just running thru the engine
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I would like to disagree with Tommyboy928 in the following areas.
1. If you get this red warning light driving over bumps, accumulators have already failed and you can Teflon treat all you want. The accumulators must be replaced.
2. The valve blocks have O-rings to seal internally but the valve seat itself is hardened steel to steel (correct me if I am wrong) Valve blocks do not fail by leaking to the outside. Teflon treatment will not change a thing. If the seat is damaged, the seat is damaged and the block must be replaced. In my opinion valve blocks after 2004 should not fail at all mechanically since there is nothing in the system which is harder than the seat itself. The main issue for sagging issues is microscopic bladder debris dissolved in the fluid. A fluid change new filter and Rodeo should do the trick.
3. Rubber softening compounds have one real big disadvantage. How do you tell it to stop softening rubber? I do not want to have the HP hoses softened!!!!
With all the trouble MB went trough with the ABC system since 2003, if a Teflon compound would have done the trick, they would have used it !!!
Just my 5 cents
1. If you get this red warning light driving over bumps, accumulators have already failed and you can Teflon treat all you want. The accumulators must be replaced.
2. The valve blocks have O-rings to seal internally but the valve seat itself is hardened steel to steel (correct me if I am wrong) Valve blocks do not fail by leaking to the outside. Teflon treatment will not change a thing. If the seat is damaged, the seat is damaged and the block must be replaced. In my opinion valve blocks after 2004 should not fail at all mechanically since there is nothing in the system which is harder than the seat itself. The main issue for sagging issues is microscopic bladder debris dissolved in the fluid. A fluid change new filter and Rodeo should do the trick.
3. Rubber softening compounds have one real big disadvantage. How do you tell it to stop softening rubber? I do not want to have the HP hoses softened!!!!
With all the trouble MB went trough with the ABC system since 2003, if a Teflon compound would have done the trick, they would have used it !!!
Just my 5 cents
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i am right so far
I would like to disagree with Tommyboy928 in the following areas.
1. If you get this red warning light driving over bumps, accumulators have already failed and you can Teflon treat all you want. The accumulators must be replaced.
2. The valve blocks have O-rings to seal internally but the valve seat itself is hardened steel to steel (correct me if I am wrong) Valve blocks do not fail by leaking to the outside. Teflon treatment will not change a thing. If the seat is damaged, the seat is damaged and the block must be replaced. In my opinion valve blocks after 2004 should not fail at all mechanically since there is nothing in the system which is harder than the seat itself. The main issue for sagging issues is microscopic bladder debris dissolved in the fluid. A fluid change new filter and Rodeo should do the trick.
3. Rubber softening compounds have one real big disadvantage. How do you tell it to stop softening rubber? I do not want to have the HP hoses softened!!!!
With all the trouble MB went trough with the ABC system since 2003, if a Teflon compound would have done the trick, they would have used it !!!
Just my 5 cents
1. If you get this red warning light driving over bumps, accumulators have already failed and you can Teflon treat all you want. The accumulators must be replaced.
2. The valve blocks have O-rings to seal internally but the valve seat itself is hardened steel to steel (correct me if I am wrong) Valve blocks do not fail by leaking to the outside. Teflon treatment will not change a thing. If the seat is damaged, the seat is damaged and the block must be replaced. In my opinion valve blocks after 2004 should not fail at all mechanically since there is nothing in the system which is harder than the seat itself. The main issue for sagging issues is microscopic bladder debris dissolved in the fluid. A fluid change new filter and Rodeo should do the trick.
3. Rubber softening compounds have one real big disadvantage. How do you tell it to stop softening rubber? I do not want to have the HP hoses softened!!!!
With all the trouble MB went trough with the ABC system since 2003, if a Teflon compound would have done the trick, they would have used it !!!
Just my 5 cents
i dont make up the story ,thats what happend.
and so ,how do you explaine i now have max 109 c on my oil temp engine , before teflon treatment was 116 c max i seen in 35 deegre highway sun driving? i have headers that even heat engine block, more now. wind catch cover to help catch wind is away,sinse i changed to black series kit and a extra intercooler that even block the oil cooler more. test guys, what temp y get after hard driving,,can read instant temp in display
i sell machines, and sometimes we seen leak where shaft comes out of gearbox to axels, we used this stuff, or customer was told to order this stuff to stop the leak/ sweating by expand the seal . and it works. only tmes it does not work, if its cut or so dry that it has cracked. issue own a SL is the long stand still ime in vinter ,that dry out seals everywhere. i had 4 SL cars oldest from 1989 , all driven hard, i mean very hard , and all teflon treated from engine,gear, differential, powersteering , and latest 2 also hydraulic suspension.. not spendt a dime on other than filter, and plugs, oil change.
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