SL/R230: SL600 R230 Camber
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SL600 R230 Camber
Hello.
My car is a wide body car. I wonder what is the best solutin to adjust the camber.
I know there is no OEM adjustments at the car.
Consume the tire inside a lot.
- Juha
My car is a wide body car. I wonder what is the best solutin to adjust the camber.
I know there is no OEM adjustments at the car.
Consume the tire inside a lot.
- Juha
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I have to dismount and rotate them from left to right every 10k miles. You will be lucky to get 25k miles. There are options just not sure if they are worthwhile and have read some really bad reviews from some that do make an adjustable camber/caster setup.
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I had the good luck...
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Are those Michelin Pilot's? I just had that happen to one of my front tires. Looked exactly the same. Split open in a seam exactly that size and started leaking rather quickly. I switched to a set of 265/40/18 Continental tires with a 500+ treadwear rating. Very nice traction too. For the back, I'm running a BFGoodrich 335/30/18.
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Are those Michelin Pilot's? I just had that happen to one of my front tires. Looked exactly the same. Split open in a seam exactly that size and started leaking rather quickly. I switched to a set of 265/40/18 Continental tires with a 500+ treadwear rating. Very nice traction too. For the back, I'm running a BFGoodrich 335/30/18.
Must do something so I can adjust it.
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Not that it matters when discussing suspension geometry, but could you please humor me and be specific about your widebody.
If possible show a pic of the rear wheel arch showing where the tire is in relation to the body because what you're describing is only possible if your car has around a 3"(+) drop. Meaning you are way outside of the factory suspension geometry.
Maybe you're running a severe drop but I have 20" rims with 2" suspension drop. Camber is only marginally under factory spec and have over 2500 mi and tires are Not showing signs of classic negative camber (inside edge tire wear)
Even though your car may be low you can still fix (to a degree) negative tire camber
You Could make your own adjustable camber arms or buy something like these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Ben...-/291575302845
Good Luck
If possible show a pic of the rear wheel arch showing where the tire is in relation to the body because what you're describing is only possible if your car has around a 3"(+) drop. Meaning you are way outside of the factory suspension geometry.
Maybe you're running a severe drop but I have 20" rims with 2" suspension drop. Camber is only marginally under factory spec and have over 2500 mi and tires are Not showing signs of classic negative camber (inside edge tire wear)
Even though your car may be low you can still fix (to a degree) negative tire camber
You Could make your own adjustable camber arms or buy something like these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Ben...-/291575302845
Good Luck
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OEM there is only ‘Toe’ adjustment front (and rear)!
OK if vehicle maintained and driven at showroom height, but day to day commuting with high cambered roads, altering height, load carrying, suspension sag, fitting wide profile tires or curb knock damage – the feature of having “ongoing Camber adjustment” to change tire “contact angle” is essential. Along with front “Caster” to correctly resolve steering pull and improve brake and steering response.
For the front (only) you can purchase fluted bolts – but they are inaccurate having ONE ONLY OFFSET POSITION, providing 3mm (1/8”) which is a minimal 0.3 degree change.
We saw the need therefore to design, manufacture and reinstate from the early ‘90’s front kits that provide up to “3 times” this adjustment range and are precise/accurate – on car under load direct on alignment rack. Fixing it right.... the 1st time!
Along with similar rear – also providing Camber (and additional rear Toe adjustment to compensate for the new Camber facility). Advantage of the K-MAC rear bush design compared to adjustable “Camber Arms” is that to resolve premature inner edge tire wear Camber arms need to move “top of tire” outwards, diminishing all important clearance to outer fender – K-MAC moves bottom arms inwards and easier access allowing to be adjusted accurately (on car under load).
Race days – this adjusting of “lower” arms allows “extra” Negative Camber and also “track width” (applies for both front and rear) suspension.
These latest development Series ‘4’ unique patented design kits are “single wrench” adjustable. Not only providing “full/precise” adjustment but at the same time replace the ‘4’ front and ‘4’ rear highest wearing suspension bushings and with twice the load bearing area!
The front bushings are 2 axis/self aligning but without the oil and air voids of OEM. Result is noticeably improved brake and steering response. No modifications to fit - come with instructions and extraction/insertion tubes (Rear Camber can be fitted on vehicle).
R230
Front Camber and Caster #502216K $480
Rear Camber and extra Toe #502526K $480
Delivery $40 one kit or $50 front and rear kits. We accept PayPal, Visa or MasterCard.
OK if vehicle maintained and driven at showroom height, but day to day commuting with high cambered roads, altering height, load carrying, suspension sag, fitting wide profile tires or curb knock damage – the feature of having “ongoing Camber adjustment” to change tire “contact angle” is essential. Along with front “Caster” to correctly resolve steering pull and improve brake and steering response.
For the front (only) you can purchase fluted bolts – but they are inaccurate having ONE ONLY OFFSET POSITION, providing 3mm (1/8”) which is a minimal 0.3 degree change.
We saw the need therefore to design, manufacture and reinstate from the early ‘90’s front kits that provide up to “3 times” this adjustment range and are precise/accurate – on car under load direct on alignment rack. Fixing it right.... the 1st time!
Along with similar rear – also providing Camber (and additional rear Toe adjustment to compensate for the new Camber facility). Advantage of the K-MAC rear bush design compared to adjustable “Camber Arms” is that to resolve premature inner edge tire wear Camber arms need to move “top of tire” outwards, diminishing all important clearance to outer fender – K-MAC moves bottom arms inwards and easier access allowing to be adjusted accurately (on car under load).
Race days – this adjusting of “lower” arms allows “extra” Negative Camber and also “track width” (applies for both front and rear) suspension.
These latest development Series ‘4’ unique patented design kits are “single wrench” adjustable. Not only providing “full/precise” adjustment but at the same time replace the ‘4’ front and ‘4’ rear highest wearing suspension bushings and with twice the load bearing area!
The front bushings are 2 axis/self aligning but without the oil and air voids of OEM. Result is noticeably improved brake and steering response. No modifications to fit - come with instructions and extraction/insertion tubes (Rear Camber can be fitted on vehicle).
R230
Front Camber and Caster #502216K $480
Rear Camber and extra Toe #502526K $480
Delivery $40 one kit or $50 front and rear kits. We accept PayPal, Visa or MasterCard.
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There is a slight amount of camber adjustment (.42 degrees) available using the camber bolts on the 2 lower control arms. These also change the caster, but that is not as much of an issue as tire wear from camber.
Here is the MB part number: 000 330 00 18 and a link to the WIS.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/atta...mber-bolts.jpg
Here is the MB part number: 000 330 00 18 and a link to the WIS.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/atta...mber-bolts.jpg