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Unless you obtain the software from MBZ, then it will be hacked. So who hacks it? Some guy in China? A young lady in Russia? A fat guy living in his mother's basement in Peoria? Are any of these better than the others? Maybe, but the location of the hacker is no indication of quality.
Thank you so much, never explained that
That is exactly the point
Chinese sold software approach is to create a hacked non-genuine windows with a preboot crack and jailed with winlicence type general lock
that clone drive contains a modified, uncomplete, non-fully optionally activated DAS or Xentry.
So when you buy it you have to activate the cloned hard drive with their unlock system
this is also why you can not upgrade nor update those systems, only format and install a fresh system.
The system I help installing is build with 100% genuine Windows and his licence and a 100% genuine untouched MB installers
activated only with licence key, not a crack
all factory level options are activated by custom designed keygens unlocking them
Then to finish this great argument battle story, and why serious people don't trust chinese software anymore,
in internal IT forums we got this message validated for all 2018-2019 version
29-09-2019, 04:41 PM Dear Respected Members: Currently, many people are suffering from accounts being hacked by Chinese hackers, this is became serious issue and really annoying ghost press is not a sufficient solution anyone can help in how to protect our SCN accounts?
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The system I help installing is build with 100% genuine Windows and his licence and a 100% genuine untouched MB installers
activated only with licence key, not a crack
all factory level options are activated by custom designed keygens unlocking them
I totally understand the genuine Windows part and the issues with the cracked/hacked Chinese versions of Windows.
However, i am still not clear how the Mercedes software is any different/better?
You say that there is "no crack" used, yet you reference "custom designed keygens".
Who created these keygens? Are the Chinese using better/worse/same keygens?
At the end of the day, it sounds to me, both options come with cracked software. Perhaps, one version uses better crack? Maybe i am missing something.
I totally understand the genuine Windows part and the issues with the cracked/hacked Chinese versions of Windows.
However, i am still not clear how the Mercedes software is any different/better?
You say that there is "no crack" used, yet you reference "custom designed keygens".
Who created these keygens? Are the Chinese using better/worse/same keygens?
At the end of the day, it sounds to me, both options come with cracked software. Perhaps, one version uses better crack? Maybe i am missing something.
Multiplexers can be wired or wireless. The hard drive with software can come configured for a Dell D630 laptop or for use with any PC. Those choices yield four configurations. For its reliability and ease of setup I have suggested a C3 multiplexer (wired) and software configured for the Dell.
Someone PM'd me about this thread, and I realize that my preferred configuration seems to not be available on aliexpress.com. Somewhat reluctantly, I will fill that void myself by offering assistance to anyone looking to put together a plug-and-play system consisting of a C3 multiplexer, Dell D630 laptop, and solid-state hard drive with lightly-customized software. Cost will be c. $320. Send me a PM for all inquiries.
EDIT: This post has been referenced by someone accusing me of selling an SDS system .This is not the case. The individual I help would purchase the multipxplexer from aliexpress.com and the Dell D630 laptop from eBay. If necessary to complete the system I would provide the software for free as explained in post #129. .
Last edited by bobterry99; 12-24-2019 at 10:38 PM.
Multiplexers can be wired or wireless. The hard drive with software can come configured for a Dell D630 laptop or for use with any PC. Those choices yield four configurations. For its reliability and ease of setup I have suggested a C3 multiplexer (wired) and software configured for the Dell.
Someone PM'd me about this thread, and I realize that my preferred configuration seems to not be available on aliexpress.com. Somewhat reluctantly, I will fill that void myself by offering assistance to anyone looking to put together a plug-and-play system consisting of a C3 multiplexer, Dell D630 laptop, and solid-state hard drive with lightly-customized software. Cost will be c. $320. Send me a PM for all inquiries.
Great, that way you have the choice depending on your budget
A Vintage K-Line system build without offline nor SCN coding by a amateur
and
A real OEM Full special Functions + Offline and SCN capable system working on all models up to 2020 build by a professional programmer
now everybody is going to be happy, Happy Holidays !
A Vintage K-Line system build without offline nor SCN coding by a [sic] amateur...
It's poor form to voice assumptions about people you have never met. I am a professional programmer and electrical hardware engineer. If you search Benzworld you can find my designs for a software-controlled OBD-I code reader and a transmission 1st/2nd-gear start controller.
The software I mentioned in my prior post has essentially all of the functionality needed to service an R230. Early R230s never need a Software Calibration Number (SCN), and this accounts for perhaps as many as 1/2 of all R230s produced. For later cars an SCN may be needed, but such instances are very rare. If necessary, an SCN can be obtained from an online vendor for a small fee. Alternatively, the Chinese sell versions of SDS software which provide for SCNs as well as offline programming and other frills for under $100.
It's poor form to voice assumptions about people you have never met. I am a professional programmer and electrical hardware engineer. If you search Benzworld you can find my designs for a software-controlled OBD-I code reader and a transmission 1st/2nd-gear start controller.
The software I mentioned in my prior post has essentially all of the functionality needed to service an R230. Early R230s never need a Software Calibration Number (SCN), and this accounts for perhaps as many as 1/2 of all R230s produced. For later cars an SCN may be needed, but such instances are very rare. If necessary, an SCN can be obtained from an online vendor for a small fee. Alternatively, the Chinese sell versions of SDS software which provide for SCNs as well as offline programming and other frills for under $100.
One day a programmer, one day you worked at Bosch. By reading your crazy posts everybody is able to see clear now
mythomania - Medical Definition
A compulsion to embroider the truth, engage in exaggeration, or tell lies.
By reading your crazy posts everybody is able to see clear [sic] now.
Again you've comported yourself in the manner of a 14-year-old boy. Since I previously noted your immaturity, continuing on this way also demonstrates a remarkable lack of self awareness.
At this point some interested readers are probably more than a little confused about software comparisons. Mindful of this, I have a challenge for you.
Star Diagnosis is needed to troubleshoot ABC problems perhaps more than any other system. You have drawn a dubious comparison between buying software from yourself and what you imagine a purchase from China to be. The challenge is for you to describe one or more hypothetical scenarios involving an ABC problem where your software is superior to Chinese in its capability.
Again you've comported yourself in the manner of a 14-year-old boy. Since I previously noted your immaturity, continuing on this way also demonstrates a remarkable lack of self awareness.
At this point some interested readers are probably more than a little confused about software comparisons. Mindful of this, I have a challenge for you.
Star Diagnosis is needed to troubleshoot ABC problems perhaps more than any other system. You have drawn a dubious comparison between buying software from yourself and what you imagine a purchase from China to be. The challenge is for you to describe one or more hypothetical scenarios involving an ABC problem where your software is superior to Chinese in its capability.
You are "IT" the Stephen King"s character, the clown who keeps coming back
all that has be explained
everytime you keep changing subject. just try to get lost
No, it decidedly has not been explained -- you've simply mentioned terms nebulous to most readers. If you can demonstrate that I missed something and am mistaken, then I will quit this forum for one month.
Again, you have not explained with an example of how your product is superior in troubleshooting ABC. You have an opportunity to give an unambiguous example to demonstrate your claims. It will require intellect as well as knowledge.
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Star Diagnosis is needed to troubleshoot ABC problems perhaps more than any other system. You have drawn a dubious comparison between buying software from yourself and what you imagine a purchase from China to be. The challenge is for you to describe one or more hypothetical scenarios involving an ABC problem where your software is superior to Chinese in its capability.
I am very VERY interested in seeing this response.
I have a China sourced version of STAR, C3 version, running on SSD on my own Dell 630.... and even though i realize that it is not perfect and missing some features, i paid only $300 for it and the seller has been very helpful over skype sessions on a few occasions. He also "promised" that his hardware is better than most sold on Aliexpress. Who knows anymore who is honest and who is not. I am sure every seller on Aliexpress who is asked the same question will provide similar response. The hardware i have, works great so far. The software seems stable as well.
Recently i had to go through extensive troubleshooting exercise of my ABC system and my cheap Chinese version of STAR was extremely helpful. I was able to diagnose not one, but two bad ABC control valves in the rear ABC valve block. The valves were "partially sticking" ...so there were no obvious signs that they were bad. Of course my iCarsoft was completely useless. STAR was able to pinpoint the exact problem. I was also able to do Rodeos, manual adjustment on each corner, pressure tests, etc.
Back to the request above... i am very interested in pmercury's more expensive STAR offering, but given that i have an older R230 (SL55) and no other newer Benz cars, in what specific scenarios will the more expensive STAR system be better than my cheap Chinese version?
What can i do on my old SL55 with the more $$ system that i can't do with the cheap one? I would love to hear/see a few different examples.
I am trying to justify spending an extra $400-500 here...that's all.
I am very VERY interested in seeing this response.
I have a China sourced version of STAR, C3 version, running on SSD on my own Dell 630.... and even though i realize that it is not perfect and missing some features, i paid only $300 for it and the seller has been very helpful over skype sessions on a few occasions. He also "promised" that his hardware is better than most sold on Aliexpress. Who knows anymore who is honest and who is not. I am sure every seller on Aliexpress who is asked the same question will provide similar response. The hardware i have, works great so far. The software seems stable as well.
Recently i had to go through extensive troubleshooting exercise of my ABC system and my cheap Chinese version of STAR was extremely helpful. I was able to diagnose not one, but two bad ABC control valves in the rear ABC valve block. The valves were "partially sticking" ...so there were no obvious signs that they were bad. Of course my iCarsoft was completely useless. STAR was able to pinpoint the exact problem. I was also able to do Rodeos, manual adjustment on each corner, pressure tests, etc.
Back to the request above... i am very interested in pmercury's more expensive STAR offering, but given that i have an older R230 (SL55) and no other newer Benz cars, in what specific scenarios will the more expensive STAR system be better than my cheap Chinese version?
What can i do on my old SL55 with the more $$ system that i can't do with the cheap one? I would love to hear/see a few different examples.
I am trying to justify spending an extra $400-500 here...that's all.
Thanks!
Has been explained over and over everywhere, you and your friend "IT" will need to read a bit more
I am not going to waste more time on witing the same stuff over and over again. compare here https://ibb.co/frGWBkT
and read the people who recommend me
I do not sell anything but help installing at only 66$/hour then free after-install support included 7/7
I understand some people buy Mercedes and can't afford the lifestyle going with it, it's no more easy life for all these days.
Has been explained over and over everywhere, you and your friend "IT" will need to read a bit more
I am not going to waste more time on witing the same stuff over and over again. compare here https://ibb.co/frGWBkT
and read the people who recommend me
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I understand some people buy Mercedes and can't afford the lifestyle going with it, it's no more easy life for all these days.
Happy Holidays !
Wow! Classic "helpful" response.
I simply wanted one or two practical, REAL world, use cases listed, where the superiority of your offering is demonstrated....in the world of R230s.
I've seen your comparison link 20 times. Frankly - it's not very useful. This is why i am still asking for specifics. I'm not interested in GENERIC bullet point list with general statements of "us vs them"...most of the items likely don't even apply to an old R230.
This is why I dared to ask you, the "ninja"...but, Sorry for wasting your time!!
You sure need to work a bit on the attitude. That's my 100% free tip for you.
And please don't make the foolish assumption that because someone bought a Mercedes he/she should automatically start blindly throwing money away at anyone (without questioning) who claims that his product/offer is simply worth the extra $400-500. Is a Mercedes owner not expected to ask questions and request to know details on what he/she is spending the extra money on? Really?? Great logic!!
I work hard for my money and expect some decent, honest communication from the person who is trying to sell me something. Period. If he does not want my business - his problem - not mine! This has nothing to do with what one can or can't afford.
Anyway.... moving on.
Wow! Classic "helpful" response.
I simply wanted one or two practical, REAL world, use cases listed, where the superiority of your offering is demonstrated....in the world of R230s.
I've seen your comparison link 20 times. Frankly - it's not very useful. This is why i am still asking for specifics. I'm not interested in GENERIC bullet point list with general statements of "us vs them"...most of the items likely don't even apply to an old R230.
This is why I dared to ask you, the "ninja"...but, Sorry for wasting your time!!
You sure need to work a bit on the attitude. That's my 100% free tip for you.
And please don't make the foolish assumption that because someone bought a Mercedes he/she should automatically start blindly throwing money away at anyone (without questioning) who claims that his product/offer is simply worth the extra $400-500. Is a Mercedes owner not expected to ask questions and request to know details on what he/she is spending the extra money on? Really?? Great logic!!
I work hard for my money and expect some decent, honest communication from the person who is trying to sell me something. Period. If he does not want my business - his problem - not mine! This has nothing to do with what one can or can't afford.
Anyway.... moving on.
Happy Holiday to you too!
Only understanding that you run outdated firmware on your ME9.7 engine ecu, transmission and some other modules should be enough.
Changes are very significant
But there are much more missing lines in Developer mode,
The word OFFLINE is misused by Chinese sellers, It is a scam, what you will get offline Variant coding only.
Now one example, with your system, go to control units>engine ecu> control units adaptations>correction programing
and look if you see all these settings:
and this was just yesterday evening (old 215) :
Now please be happy with your old C3, I don't have a problem with that, didn't mean to offend you danmm7
...in what specific scenarios will the more expensive STAR system be better than my cheap Chinese version?
There are none. That is why I chose ABC for the challenge. And if the ninja software is the bona fide software provided to Mercedes dealers, then you actually have more capability with your software from China via the engineering menus than pmercury.
There are none. That is why I chose ABC for the challenge. And if the ninja software is the bona fide software provided to Mercedes dealers, then you actually have more capability with your software from China via the engineering menus than pmercury.
Changing subject again
Show me where that menu here above is in Chinese new version or in your old version, just show me
Proof us that you worked at Bosch as you pretend
Proof us that you are a programmer
You are just a Mythomaniac full of hate
Only understanding that you run outdated firmware on your ME9.7 engine ecu, transmission and some other modules should be enough.
Changes are very significant
But there are much more missing lines in Developer mode,
The word OFFLINE is misused by Chinese sellers, It is a scam, what you will get offline Variant coding only.
Now one example, with your system, go to control units>engine ecu> control units adaptations>correction programing
and look if you see all these settings:
and this was just yesterday evening (old 215) :
Now please be happy with your old C3, I don't have a problem with that, didn't mean to offend you danmm7
I shall indulge this request. I've attached the program for the code reader mentioned in a prior post. The electrical schematic for the reader can be found on Benzworld.
I have one more challenge for you. Unlike the prior challenge, this one should be easy for you.
Suppose you have Milazzo's '03 SL500 and the SRS malfunction light is illuminated in the instrument cluster. A Quick Test reveals code B1315 set in the air bag controller: the child seat recognition sensor is faulty. If Milazzo wanted you to kill the light without replacing the sensor, using your software how would you proceed?
I shall indulge this request. I've attached the program for the code reader mentioned in a prior post. The electrical schematic for the reader can be found on Benzworld.
I have one more challenge for you. Unlike the prior challenge, this one should be easy for you.
Suppose you have Milazzo's '03 SL500 and the SRS malfunction light is illuminated in the instrument cluster. A Quick Test reveals code B1315 set in the air bag controller: the child seat recognition sensor is faulty. If Milazzo wanted you to kill the light without replacing the sensor, using your software how would you proceed?
just stop lying and go for a long walk, Mr Bosh programmer
this is not software programming
Are you not changing the subject? Isn't this thread about diagnostic tools for an R230?
Since you did not respond to the challenge of turning off the SRS lamp, may we assume your software is incapable? .
Airbags are one of the most locked features in mercedes, for security reasons. But you can code finally code the mats out with Special settings you don't have
This task is also easy to resolve without Xentry, just cut child seat recognition sensor wire and use a resistance to simulate
this done, Show me where that menu here above is in Chinese new version or in your old version, just show me Proof us that you worked at Bosch as you pretend Proof us that you are a programmer
You can code out the parts but that will also result with not having airbags
My software can code-out the part and still have functional airbags. Advantage: China.
How do you code out the part with your software? You needn't be particularly detailed.
Originally Posted by pmercury
Proof us that you worked at Bosch as you pretend Proof us that you are a programmer
This thread isn't about you or me, it is about diagnostic software. It is inappropriate to post materials to this thread about myself which have nothing to do with Mercedes automobiles. Send me a PM, and I shall reply with an abundance of materials: Win32, Java/Android, C#, C, VBA applications and assorted Bosch documents.
My software can code-out the part and still have functional airbags. Advantage: China.
How do you code out the part with your software? You needn't be particularly detailed.
This thread isn't about you or me, it is about diagnostic software. It is inappropriate to post materials to this thread about myself which have nothing to do with Mercedes automobiles. Send me a PM, and I shall reply with an abundance of materials: Win32, Java/Android, C#, C, VBA applications and assorted Bosch documents.
great just send it, I can't wait
All versions can code out parts, it is just that old and chinese versions have many missing options as I show here: Now show me where that menu here above is in Chinese new version or in your old version or Chinese new control units>engine ecu> control units adaptations>correction programing
and look if you see all these settings:
Not true. A dealer can not code out a child seat recognition sensor with his Star Diagnosis. Apparently yours can not either.
Originally Posted by pmercury
Now one example, with your system, go to control units>engine ecu> control units adaptations>correction programing
and look if you see all these settings:
Done. My software has your settings and more. Advantage: China.
Last edited by bobterry99; 12-20-2019 at 08:44 PM.
12-08-2019, 03:35 AM
The hardware i have, works great so far. The software seems stable as well.
That's my 100% free tip for you.
