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SL/R230: Jacking point for central rear?

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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 10:18 AM
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Jacking point for central rear?

I've searched but haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. I want to put my SL up on jack stands, my garage ceiling is too low for a lift, and I'm not sold on the QuickJack.

My plan is to the put the front up on 2 jack stands, then I'd like to lift the rear centrally to put it up on stands. I'm looking for advice from anyone who has done this befor, my first thought is under the rear diff. Any advice?
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 10:39 AM
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I'm also interested in getting a jack system to do work on my new SL. My garage ceiling is also too low for a lift. This is a picture of Fisherfast's setup. He does performance mods on SLs on his Youtube channel. I haven't really heard any real good or bad about the quick jack setup. But Fisherfast has done 20+ SLs and this is his setup. I've done the jack stands for all of my vehicles and am looking into a system that could give me more height than standard jack stands while also being safe. Anyone with experience or could recommend a good setup? Thanks.

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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 11:11 AM
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Oh wow. That's a QuickJack. I was looking at the height it provided and I wasn't sure that it justified the price. That looks pretty good.
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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I have a quickjack blx5000 and it does work well with the R230.

However the build quality has been trash. I originally had problems with fluid leaks and it still does not raise evenly despite multiple attempts to fix the problem. Quickjack customer support has been fine, but it has been a frustrating product to own up until this point.

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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sivikvtec
I have a quickjack blx5000 and it does work well with the R230.

However the build quality has been trash. I originally had problems with fluid leaks and it still does not raise evenly despite multiple attempts to fix the problem. Quickjack customer support has been fine, but it has been a frustrating product to own up until this point.
That's exactly the feedback I was looking for. Thank you for sharing.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 05:02 AM
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i lift my w215 by the rear dif
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 01:01 PM
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The rear will be the differential and the front will be a rubber puck protruding from the lower engine cover:

http://benzbits.com/w209/JackPoints.pdf

That shows a W203/W209 chassis, but it's the same on most all MBZ cars.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 02:34 PM
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The rear will be the differential and the front will be a rubber puck protruding from the lower engine cover:

http://benzbits.com/w209/JackPoints.pdf

That shows a W203/W209 chassis, but it's the same on most all MBZ cars.
Rudeney - Please remove the above link in your post as it is a violation of Mbworld rules as an indirect advertisement for your For-Profit Mercedes repair business in Birmingham, AL. You were asked by Mbworld forum moderators to remove your benzbits.com link in your signature as it clearly violates Mbworld rules for Non Approved Vendors of Mbworld. I see you finally did that today. To make it clearer to those who don't know, forum members are prohibited from advertising their business unless they are an officially recognized site sponsor and advertiser. Rudeney through his Benzbits.com and various suffixes to his business as in the above link, are a direct violation to the Terms of Use of Mbworld.org. These official Terms of Use can be found in the FAQ section of the forum and are listed here:

Mbworld Terms of Use: "You agree, through your use of the Discussion Forums, that advertising on MBWorld.org will only be permitted by officially recognized site sponsors and advertisers. Advertising includes, but is not limited to, direct and indirect solicitation of business in posts, business contact information, use of corporate logos, or use of any language or image that can be construed as an advertisement. Posting is defined by posts in forums, signature files, personal messages and e-mails sent from MBWorld.org."

In layman terms, if Rudeney (Rodney) had the business name - MercedesDiagnostic&RepairBusiness.com (which Benzbits.com is), and then had postings as he has for years as in the above link: MercedesDiagnostic&RepairBusiness.com/w209/JackPoints.pdf Some folks would be like "Oh, that's really nice someone posted some good info on jack points." But the reality is, this post violates Mbworld rules by virtue of the fact that Rodney is indirectly advertising his MercedesDiagnostic&RepairBusiness.com For-Profit business. Now, I wouldn't have a problem with any of this except for the fact that Rudeney went on a tirade to discredit another forum member (pmercury) in another post - where Rudeney actually said the other forum member was banned from the Mbworld site for advertising (indirectly) his business without being an approved vendor. Well, who's the pot calling the kettle black here? Btw, I didn't start this argument - Rudeney did. But he wants to keep on promoting his very successful diagnostic and repair business and so his helpful posts also directly link to his For-Profit business. If you want to read more about this dilemma, here are his words: "You have mentioned that I also "advertise" in my signature block. Yes, I do have a link in my signature block that is on my company website, Benzbits. If you go poking around on other pages on that site, you may discover that Benzbits is a part of a for-profit business..Now, having said all that, I have had several (maybe around 8-10) forum members contact me for help through my Benzbits business and come to see me here in Alabama. In all cases - even one who had recently joined and never even posted - I NEVER charged anything for my services. In fact, I often get emails from people who find Benzbits and, just as I do here in the forums, I answer their questions to the best of my abilities and never charge a fee or even suggest that I should." Okay, so let's get this straight, forum members actually got in their car, drove to Rudeney's Benzbits shop, got diagnostic and repair work done - and at the end of the repairs, Rodney says something like: "Have a nice day - no charge for hours of services rendered." C'mon. Really?! In a follow on post, Rudeney says the following regarding why another forum member (pmercury) was banned from Mbworld: "One, he was being very argumentative and making unsubstantiated claims that his version of the SDS software was better. Second, he was clearly violating forum rules by advertising for-profit services without paying to be a forum sponsor." But it's okay for you, Rudeney, to advertise your business either directly or indirectly through your benzbits.com site with various suffixes disguised to conceal your business.

Forum Moderators, please censure Rudeney and have him delete the above link and not use any benzbits.com links in any further posts on Mbworld. Based on his continued violations of Mbworld rules - which he's been made aware of and continues to violate - It's clear Rudeney is not abiding by Mbworld rules. Benzworld.org has prohibited his use of his For-profit business links. Mbworld should consider the same.

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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 03:18 PM
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James, do be quiet. We are all of us happy the rant is over and hardly anyone here is waiting for another stir from an R230 forum novice. You are not running the show here.
Want a stringent set of rules and live by them to their ultimate consequence? Fine. Take your car to the nearest MB dealer and let them fix it.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 03:38 PM
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James, do be quiet. We are all of us happy the rant is over and hardly anyone here is waiting for another stir from an R230 forum novice. You are not running the show here.
Want a stringent set of rules and live by them to their ultimate consequence? Fine. Take your car to the nearest MB dealer and let them fix it.
Frederick - I may be new to the R230 forum, but I'm certainly not a novice. Been driving Mercedes for 30+ yrs. Some folks hang out on the forum, you'll normally find me wrenching on one of my six cars. And no, I will not be "quiet." I certainly don't want to get into disagreements, and I don't want to hijack this thread. But Rudeney was specifically asked by forum moderators to remove his signature link and stop using his links to his business. He finally removed his link (today) but also today, he used it again in the jack points above, which violates Mbworld rules. Don't worry, any post I make here will not make R230 owners have to run to their nearest MB dealer anytime soon. But as Rodney said in another post: "When someone comes to the forum and professes to have better parts, processes, or software, and but only offers it at a price, that is where I become extremely skeptical. When this person then becomes argumentative and belligerent, that's when I take action." Well, I'm taking action too. All I'm asking is for Rodney to abide by the very rules he hypocritically helped another forum member get banned for..To not advertise directly or indirectly as a non approved vendor of Mbworld rules. It's up to Rodney and forum moderators to decide what's right.

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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 03:55 PM
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I’m in here for the fun of it, and to learn about my car. Some folks have been very helpful and cheerful. I wish for the forum to remain the cheerfull place it always has been. Technics, opinions, tips, exchanges, comparing opinions with an eager and positive attitude. An Aussie and a Dutchman (me) helped a Yank fixing his dash, that’s the fun to be had here. The rest is blèh (now you know some Dutch).
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Frederick NL
You are not running the show here..
Not yet my friend.. But maybe in the future

It's all good. I've had many Dutch Navy guys treat me and my crew members with wonderful hospitality in the 90s when I was based in Italy. And I know I'll likely ruffle feathers with the Rodney followers. I've been called names in another thread, and now I've been called a novice by you in this thread. That's fine. If someone wants to assess my experiences on MB based on my posts on this site or join date, I'm happy to debate that too. I was driving an early model 70's MB in the early 80's. But I'm just a novice and should just be quiet...

I'm also happy to share any info I may have as I did in this thread as well. But I cannot ignore the absolute hypocrisy that Rodney has displayed through his posts and his continued violation of Mbworld rules - all while he lines his own pockets with his very lucrative business in Alabama. And then he says he's never made any money from Mbworld forum members. I call BS. Others will tell me to be quiet. Whatever. Yet he's made thousands from his association with his business benzbits.com and his association with Mbworld. Forum moderators should see this situation and acknowledge that what's been spoken here is truth. The truth only hurts if it should.

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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 09:30 AM
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Getting back on track with the subject of the thread. I was able to successfully raise my SL up onto jack stands yesterday.

My intention was to use my low profile floor jack to raise the front, one side at a time, and then lower onto the jack stand. The jack stands would be placed at the lift pucks. I was surprised to find that the nearly the entirety of the area near the lift puck was covered in plastic, and because of that I was uncomfortable using the floor jack. Instead, I defaulted to the jack that comes with the car as it engages from the side, away from where the jack stand would be placed.

So, one side then the other, both jack stands were placed at the lift pucks.

For the rear, I positioned the floor jack from the behind the car and lifted it at the rear differential. I slowly lowered down onto the rear jack stands and verified placement as I went. My plans for removing the jack stands are to reverse the procedure.


up on jack stands

Next steps, I need to buy a new impact wrench as my pneumatic **** the bed yesterday. Remove the wheels for refinishing, renew the left front valve block with fresh o-rings, inspect the brakes (replace as needed). I had intended to do the front lower control arms, but I think I'm going to let my mechanic do that as I'm not yet convinced that I want to be under the car on a creeper yanking at the suspension like this.

Ignore all the leaves in the garage I worked with the garage doors opened and it was an unseasonably warm and windy day in the Boston area yesterday, blowing leaves into the garage.
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 04:56 PM
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Sean65. Nice Ride, Hopefully all will get sorted out soon and she will run as good as new! Hey if you want an alternative to using the OEM jack, try using a 3/4" x 8" Grade 8 Bolt inserted into OEM jack socket on sides behind plastic covers. The bolt sticks out so that you can put your floor jack under it and raise the car, leaving jack point pucks accessible for jack stands. This is not my idea, I got it from another post on the R230 forum some time ago.

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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 10:59 AM
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Brilliant idea!
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