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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 12:13 PM
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FYI, the SL55 with performance trim has yellow calipers.
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wait; aren't yellow calipers always ceramic, at least on Porsches?

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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 12:23 PM
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wait; aren't yellow calipers always ceramic, at lease on Porsches?
The Turbo S comes with CCB standard.
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeZ4
For those curious folks out there this Christmas; here is a link to the MotorTrend article comparing a 911 Turbo rag top to an SL63. Just an interesting take on the two vehicles.https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...n-test-review/
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This review comes as no surprise to me. I just loved how they talked about radio knobs still present in the Porsche and how one must go into the touch screen to lower the top in the SL. Ridiculous!
In certain areas of the country, where cars like these are considered fashion accessories, where one will pay through the nose for a new Turbo S, while discounts on SL's are either here already or just around the corner, the SL is doomed, but that's just my opinion of course.
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
This review comes as no surprise to me. I just loved how they talked about radio knobs still present in the Porsche and how one must go into the touch screen to lower the top in the SL. Ridiculous!
In certain areas of the country, where cars like these are considered fashion accessories, where one will pay through the nose for a new Turbo S, while discounts on SL's are either here already or just around the corner, the SL is doomed, but that's just my opinion of course.
The SL has long been doomed for some time. The R231 did not make a sales case for the current R232 to even exist as it was a sales failure. The only reason the SL really exists still is because of heritage and name value.
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 01:16 PM
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wait; aren't yellow calipers always ceramic, at least on Porsches?
Ceramics are gold on MB. For Porsche ceramics are yellow, and Porsche Surface Coated Brakes have white calipers.
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
This review comes as no surprise to me. I just loved how they talked about radio knobs still present in the Porsche and how one must go into the touch screen to lower the top in the SL. Ridiculous!
In certain areas of the country, where cars like these are considered fashion accessories, where one will pay through the nose for a new Turbo S, while discounts on SL's are either here already or just around the corner, the SL is doomed, but that's just my opinion of course.
One not need go to the touch screen to raise or lower the top. There is a dedicated button which when double clicked either raises or lowers the top - simple.
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 03:17 PM
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And can use the fob to open and close if want. The double click approach has worked every time.
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Ceramics are gold on MB. For Porsche ceramics are yellow, and Porsche Surface Coated Brakes have white calipers.
Porsche's option list includes gloss back ceramic calipers for a $900 premium over yellow. I have the black ones on my GT3 and, for me, the look works better with Shark Blue paint and satin dark silver wheels. MY SL63 is Patagonia Red with black cross-spoke wheels, and I'd prefer black calipers versus the standard yellow. I may get them painted in due course.


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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 02:36 PM
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Waiting for my GT3 shark blue as well, manual transmission..........
Driving a late model 911 with a manual transmission is one of the great joys in life. There is not a smoother shifting manual on the planet.
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 02:44 PM
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Driving a late model 911 with a manual transmission is one of the great joys in life. There is not a smoother shifting manual on the planet.
Agreed. 70% of US-bound GT3s are manual. I traded "down" from a 992.1 GT3 RS to to 992 GT3, partly to enjoy the manual for a year or so and partly to get on my dealer's list for a 992 GT3 RS allocation.
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 02:55 PM
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Very interesting, that some of us Petrolheads can enjoy the benefits of the SL and 992, Mercedes and Porsche. (If we are so fortunate to experience both)
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Old Dec 24, 2022 | 12:16 AM
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I don't know why I feel this way, but I am not really comfortable with a Porsche Turbo S vs SL 63 comparison. It not even the price difference but rather I view the Porsche as an outstanding pure sports car while the new SL in my opinion is a cross between a sports car and a grand tourer. I think the GTR would have been a much better comparison to Porsche. I think many of the points of the reviewer are very true, ie the interface is at times infuriating and yes it does not seem reasonable to take your eyes off the road to futz around with the A/C. However, after you do this for a while a) you don't change settings all that often b) one becomes pretty good at doing it. Net, net the SL is simply not a Porsche Turbo S.

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Old Dec 24, 2022 | 12:26 AM
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I don't know why I feel this way, but I am not really comfortable with a Porsche Turbo S vs SL 63 comparison. It not even the price difference but rather I view the Porsche as an outstanding pure sports car while the new SL in my opinion is a cross between a sports car and a grand tourer. I think the GTR would have been a much better comparison to Porsche. I think many of the points of the reviewer are very true, ie the interface is at times infuriating and yes it does not seem reasonable to take your eyes off the road to futz around with the A/C. However, after you do this for a while a) you don't change settings all that often b) one becomes pretty good at doing it. Net, net the SL is simply not a Porsche Turbo S.
I drove a new Turbo S Cabriolet about three years ago. The truly amazing thing about the car is that if you don’t put your foot in it, it drives like a kiddie car. The car rides very comfortably, steers effortlessly and could easily be a daily driver. If one did not know what was almost silently purring under the rear hood, you would have no clue that you were in a 2.6 second 0 to 60 car. The GTR, on the other hand, is a monster, pure & simple, much more suited for the track than city streets.

On the subject of the touch screen, I have a 2022 S580 and I find that the screen is a constant distraction and annoyance—and that’s without having to deal with glaring sun from an open convertible top. The audio volume control is ridiculous, as are other, previously simple and intuitive controls that are now buried in the menus. As for getting used to it, I have over 8,000 miles on the car and I am still distracted way too much while simply trying to drive. A volume control KNOB, a station selector KNOB, a temperature control KNOB—would have made simple things SO much easier.
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I would think that Motor Trends review and comparison really does qualify as an " Impression of the SL 63" and then some,
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Old Dec 24, 2022 | 03:08 PM
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Motor Trend really popped it to them in a negative way.
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I don't know why I feel this way, but I am not really comfortable with a Porsche Turbo S vs SL 63 comparison. It not even the price difference but rather I view the Porsche as an outstanding pure sports car while the new SL in my opinion is a cross between a sports car and a grand tourer. I think the GTR would have been a much better comparison to Porsche. I think many of the points of the reviewer are very true, ie the interface is at times infuriating and yes it does not seem reasonable to take your eyes off the road to futz around with the A/C. However, after you do this for a while a) you don't change settings all that often b) one becomes pretty good at doing it. Net, net the SL is simply not a Porsche Turbo S.
Agreed. I do think the GT Comparison is more appropriate. I haven't expected the Porsche performance; I expected MB Quality and comfort, plus the ability to blow the doors off anything in front of me on the Texas highways I drive. The touchscreen is slowly growing on me. Getting favorites in place and starting to enjoy the capacitive touch on the steering wheel, but it does ask a lot of a a new driver to learn. I also had they realization that the majority of things I want to do I can control via voice.
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Motor Trend really popped it to them in a negative way.
But they really pulled their punches. None of the major “magazines” will really rake a top producer like MB over the coals.
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The SL is much more of a very luxurious Grand Tourer with added sportiness to it. The Porsche is much more of a pure sports car (a "Super Car") with some added luxury to it. Unfortunately for Mercedes, the Turbo S is also so good at also being a daily driver that from a pure driver's point, it's much more enjoyable to drive. Add the fact that Mercedes went to controls via the screen (ala Tesla) and the car is even less enjoyable to drive. The 911 Turbo S is so amazing (I have one) that doing spirited driving in it is a pure joy.
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I would like to follow up on this thread about my driving impressions on my SL63. I now have 847 miles, and getting closer to my 1,000 mile break-in. The car clearly amazes as a GT, especially with the top down. In comfort mode, the car drives smoothly and you can be relaxed, especially with your ventilated seats, and massage turned on. Stay in automatic and no paddle shifting required. You can even use the electronics and enjoy the driving assist programs, and rarely touch the accelerator and brake petals.

On the other hand in sport the car performed more aggressively, and in sport plus totally awesome, with loud exhaust.

Today for the first time, I totally ignored driving efficiency, and drove with sport plus in manual mode and relied on the paddle shifters. I whole new exhilarating experience.

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