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SL/R232: How much of "projection function" is enabled in US?

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Old 04-13-2023, 02:40 PM
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How much of "projection function" is enabled in US?

Hello,
In the spec sheet of the SL I am looking at I see the the following list:42U Preinstallation for projection function for symbols
43U Preinstallation for projection function for animations

Can anybody help explain how does this work in US? I saw the video here:

Is it accurate?
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Originally Posted by silviang
Hello,
In the spec sheet of the SL I am looking at I see the the following list:42U Preinstallation for projection function for symbols
43U Preinstallation for projection function for animations

Can anybody help explain how does this work in US? I saw the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52rwB_a-cVg&t=160s

Is it accurate?
Thank you!
I have a fully spec'd SL63 and have seen nothing like this. There is a heads-up display which projects an 8 inch wide horizontal display that appears to float on the windshield. It is highly customizable and I use it a lot. But it isn't anything like what is shown in the video. Perhaps there is some other feature I am unaware of.
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Didn’t think it was enabled for US market.
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Mistook this for the Digital light but this is simply the intelligent lighting system (ILS).
it’s build into the car but must be software enabled which it isn’t for the US.

Do a search on ILS to find options to enable it. Hopefully they can code it for you on the R232.

Expect this feature to be standard soon as the DOT finally updated their archaic regulations.

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Originally Posted by Wolfman
Mistook this for the Digital light but this is simply the intelligent lighting system (ILS).
it’s build into the car but must be software enabled which it isn’t for the US.

Do a search on ILS to find options to enable it. Hopefully they can code it for you on the R232.

Expect this feature to be standard soon as the DOT finally updated their archaic regulations.
Do you think this will be available for existing R232 owners via a software update?
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Do you think this will be available for existing R232 owners via a software update?
From MBUSA unlikely although I think Audi is promising later updates for previously disabled headlight functionality.

But this is standard fare for other models and commonly done for the W213 E Class and W222 S Class.
I understand it has been done for the W223 which would be the same generation as the R232.
Just a question if you want to be the first one. Check on the W223 forum or contact Benzninja, a vendor here for such services.

But there are places in Europe that do remote coding as well.

Good luck!
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Thank you very much for the clarification! The fact that they call this "Preinstallation for projection function for symbols" gives me some hope that it's upgreadable.
I also saw a note on a different thread that these options are controlled by the GPS location. So maybe it's just about removing that restriction when it's legal.
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My understanding is that everything is in place in the SL. The functionality is currently geofenced so that when the car enters a country where the full functionality is permitted by local regulations, it works automatically. So the digital lights and animations will work differently as the same car crosses borders in Europe as well as North America. I read elsewhere on MBWorld that the lights work in Canada. Once I get my car I will contact BenzNinja to inquire about his ability to code the 232 to override the geofencing.
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Up until now, my focus has been on the 2023 SLs. My SL55 that I ordered and MB built and then decided to park at the MB VPC in Brunswick GA since February has the Digital Lights. As I have started to explore the possibility of getting a 2022 SL55 instead of my 2023 due to a delay until at least June to get my 2023 released, I am seeing on every 2022 that is available a $1100 credit on the build sheet because the Digital Lights were not included due to supply shortages. I am not sure if this was the case for all 2022s. Please keep in mind that without the Digital Lights the advanced functions are not possible.
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Thanks for the observation - on my build sheet for the 2022 SL63 I do see:316 DIGITAL LIGHT

And not the $1100 credit. But I did see it on other cars I was looking at.
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Interesting, I haven't seen any cars with that credit. Do you have a link to any online listing with that code? Thanks
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Here are links to two examples with the credit for the missing Digital Lights. The code for DL is 316.
D9L Credit for missing standard 316 $-1,100

https://www.ipacket.info/W1KVK8AB1NF011940#MSRP

https://www.ipacket.info/W1KVK8AB9NF011894
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Here are links to two examples with the credit for the missing Digital Lights. The code for DL is 316.
D9L Credit for missing standard 316 $-1,100

https://www.ipacket.info/W1KVK8AB1NF011940#MSRP

https://www.ipacket.info/W1KVK8AB9NF011894
Mmm, so two recent built cars in pretty identicle configurations. Built within about 50 units of each other. They have option code 632 LED Headlights instead. Neither has pictures yet but I wonder of they'll have a different headlight design, i bet they will. Good finds!
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This morning I was able to secure a 2022 SL with the Digital Lights as well as the Exclusive leather interior (diamond stitch) which is even more scarce on a 2022 than the Digital Lights.
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Originally Posted by wem
Up until now, my focus has been on the 2023 SLs. My SL55 that I ordered and MB built and then decided to park at the MB VPC in Brunswick GA since February has the Digital Lights. As I have started to explore the possibility of getting a 2022 SL55 instead of my 2023 due to a delay until at least June to get my 2023 released, I am seeing on every 2022 that is available a $1100 credit on the build sheet because the Digital Lights were not included due to supply shortages. I am not sure if this was the case for all 2022s. Please keep in mind that without the Digital Lights the advanced functions are not possible.
So I've done some digging and only a couple of cars have the credit and missing digital lights, looks like all in December production. Vast majority of 2022s including lots of December production had the correct code 316 headlights.
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So I've done some digging and only a couple of cars have the credit and missing digital lights, looks like all in December production. Vast majority of 2022s including lots of December production had the correct code 316 headlights.
Thanks for investigating. Let's see if and when the US regulators complete their testing of the advanced lighting systems submitted by the manufacturers for review. Otherwise BenzNinja might have his next coding project to offer for sale to 232 SL owners.
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I have an early SL55 purchased in August 2022 and I can confirm that I have the "light show" when it turns on and off, I get the projected "blind spot warning triangle" (1:37) and giant projected arrow (2:15) during lane changes on drive assist. I haven't seen the pedestrian warning and it's hard to tell if it's blanking out other cars or not, it's definitely adjusting continually. On my windows sticker, I see "Adaptive high-beam assist", "LED Headlamps", "LED Taillamps" in the SAFETY/SECURITY section, and a mention of "Active LED Headlights", as well as "AMG Light Display" as part of the Performance Line (DY2).
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I have an early SL55 purchased in August 2022 and I can confirm that I have the "light show" when it turns on and off, I get the projected "blind spot warning triangle" (1:37) and giant projected arrow (2:15) during lane changes on drive assist. I haven't seen the pedestrian warning and it's hard to tell if it's blanking out other cars or not, it's definitely adjusting continually. On my windows sticker, I see "Adaptive high-beam assist", "LED Headlamps", "LED Taillamps" in the SAFETY/SECURITY section, and a mention of "Active LED Headlights", as well as "AMG Light Display" as part of the Performance Line (DY2).
Exactly the functionality I have. I keep finding new stuff, though. I kept wondering what Active Steering Assist was and I learned on a road trip over the weekend.
Porsche sells the Matrix Design lights in the US but cripples the functionality. I had read that even after the DOT was ready to legalize the functionality, Porsche would not unlock it for those that had actually paid for it.
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Slightly off topic of another functionality that I am not able to understand if it's enabled in SL cars - is the augmented video feature enabled on the heads-up display like in the S-class as well? Or it's only on the IPAD screen?
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Originally Posted by silviang
Slightly off topic of another functionality that I am not able to understand if it's enabled in SL cars - is the augmented video feature enabled on the heads-up display like in the S-class as well? Or it's only on the IPAD screen?
Thanks!
No, the SL does not have the AR HUD, just a small HUD. So the AR will only show up on the center display.

I finally found a picture of an SL with the missing digitla lights at Park Place Dallas MB, and compared it to the cars with the digital lights. There's no difference in headlight design. They look the same.
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Thanks for the reply on the heads-up display. Not the answer that I was hoping for, but now I know :-)
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Thanks for the reply on the heads-up display. Not the answer that I was hoping for, but now I know :-)
Yeah, not ideal :/ The only MBs with the AR HUD, which is code 445 (as opposed to the standard HUD which is 444, 438, or 463 depending on the car) are the S Class, EQS, and EQE in certain markets right now, and they require the 451 3D Guages or the Hyperscreen to have it.

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