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How do I post pics (10-12)? Wrote a comment and chose camera (iPhone 13) pics but then what to do?
Compared to SL, this is more luxe, more spacious, easier in/out, larger trunk. More studdly appearance. No contest, am definitely ordering one.
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Originally Posted by docsout
How do I post pics (10-12)? Wrote a comment and chose camera (iPhone 13) pics but then what to do?
Compared to SL, this is more luxe, more spacious, easier in/out, larger trunk. More studdly appearance. No contest, am definitely ordering one.
Congrats and as for how to post pictures you click the paper clip icon.
I saw this one at Fletcher Jones in Newport Beach and thought it was quite stunning. Much better looking than the convertible, in my opinion.
Nice Styling. The problem for me, living in Southern California, and in Orange County, is that I have the top down on my AMGSL 63 almost full-time. And of my last five cars only one has not been a convertible, the original GTS, which I loved, but once I could get the GTC as a convertible, I loved it even more! At any rate as in all style and design things to each his own, but this new GT is beautiful looking no doubt about it in my opinion.
Glad you figured out how to post the images OP, thanks for posting. This vehicle looks good in this colour! All the lines and design elements shows. If I was in the market (despite the weight) this would be a good choice.
it is no convertible (I got the SL63 because I wanted a convertible)
it weights the same compared to the SL, believe it or not, weight is identical
it accelerates faster from 0-100 kph due to an improved launch control/gearbox setup but 100 to 200 kph time is identical (I tried).
it feels a bit more direct/planted due to changed chassis software setup but chassis is basically the same
steering is a bit more direct/light in Race mode but difference is barely noticeable
Yes, I like how the new AMG GT looks (front, fenders, rear lights) but I also love the SL, it looks very classy.
If you want a Coupe, the AMG GT it perfect. I'd take the AMG GT63 E Performance though. It weights 200 kg more but performance is amazing and you cannot feel the extra weight.
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Originally Posted by RTC63
The AMG GT looks nice but:
it is no convertible (I got the SL63 because I wanted a convertible)
it weights the same compared to the SL, believe it or not, weight is identical
it accelerates faster from 0-100 kph due to an improved launch control/gearbox setup but 100 to 200 kph time is identical (I tried).
it feels a bit more direct/planted due to changed chassis software setup but chassis is basically the same
steering is a bit more direct/light in Race mode but difference is barely noticeable
Yes, I like how the new AMG GT looks (front, fenders, rear lights) but I also love the SL, it looks very classy.
If you want a Coupe, the AMG GT it perfect. I'd take the AMG GT63 E Performance though. It weights 200 kg more but performance is amazing and you cannot feel the extra weight.
I won't lie, I have considered swapping the SL for a GT, but it might not make much sense . . . Tax alone would be brutal
I do REALLY like the body shape of the GT, but having the flexibility of a convertible and the identical interior tells me that I should just be happy with what I have
Lots of hate for the SL63, but I have been loving it - I would take a bath on a trade-in, so I need to put these thoughts away, HaHa
I won't lie, I have considered swapping the SL for a GT, but it might not make much sense . . . Tax alone would be brutal
I do REALLY like the body shape of the GT, but having the flexibility of a convertible and the identical interior tells me that I should just be happy with what I have
Lots of hate for the SL63, but I have been loving it - I would take a bath on a trade-in, so I need to put these thoughts away, HaHa
I would switch my SL63 only with the new SL63 E Performance.
I don’t know why for sure, but I recoil at the idea of a lift back being considered part of a performance package. I associate the lift back with convenience packages, for grocery getters, and baby haulers.
The first car I ever bought was a Toyota Corolla hatchback.It was sporty enough, but by no means high performance. Maybe that has a lotto do with why I don’t consider the hatchback relating to a performance car.
The video is quite entertaining and they made a few good points but they only mentioned in a very subtle way how fast the AMG GT63 (and SL63 for that matter) can be on the track, on twisty country roads, etc. because make no mistake: 200-300 kg less weight for the old AMG GT or not...the new one wipes the floor with the old one (with the exception of the GT R of course or the Blackseries) when it comes to tracks or twisty roads. I also think that it is quite impressive that the new AMG GT (or SL63) sounds that good considering the GPF installed (not sure about the US but I think that even in the US, there is a GPF installed). One of the major selling points for this car (and the SL63) is the exhaust sound.
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Originally Posted by RTC63
The video is quite entertaining and they made a few good points but they only mentioned in a very subtle way how fast the AMG GT63 (and SL63 for that matter) can be on the track, on twisty country roads, etc. because make no mistake: 200-300 kg less weight for the old AMG GT or not...the new one wipes the floor with the old one (with the exception of the GT R of course or the Blackseries) when it comes to tracks or twisty roads. I also think that it is quite impressive that the new AMG GT (or SL63) sounds that good considering the GPF installed (not sure about the US but I think that even in the US, there is a GPF installed). One of the major selling points for this car (and the SL63) is the exhaust sound.
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, '24 BMW I7 on order...
Originally Posted by RJC
My dealer has same combo here in N Cali
Agree, much nicer looking...are you getting the itch by chance, even slightly?
NOT EVEN REMOTELY! Honestly, as someone who owned & drag raced 427 Corvettes in the 1960’s, to me, going overly quick & fast on public roads today is just SO boring, not to mention incredibly dangerous. My feelings on the 232 SL’s is still the same: the cars are SLINO’s, SL’s In Name Only! They are fluffed up, softened up AMG GTC’s and should have been marketed as such. The SL is dead. Long live the R231’s, the last of the REAL SL’s.
2022 SL55 AMG Roadster; 2024 Land Rover P400 Defender 110; 2020 Porsche Macan S; 2023 Audi Q5
Originally Posted by Streamliner
My feelings on the 232 SL’s is still the same: the cars are SLINO’s, SL’s In Name Only! They are fluffed up, softened up AMG GTC’s and should have been marketed as such. The SL is dead. Long live the R231’s, the last of the REAL SL’s.
If you haven’t driven a 232 you really should, as dynamically it is far more interesting than the previous generations. Styling is of course a personal decision and I VASTLY prefer the 232.
I’m curious what you mean by a “REAL” SL. A boulevard cruiser with a powerful engine? There are those who claim the R232 is exactly that. I know you don’t like the reversion to a soft top, but SLs of the past certainly had them. As you, I’m old enough to remember when Porsche fanatics wailed that the 993 was the last of the “real” 911s as the 996s had water cooled engines. Dinos were thought of as not being REAL Ferraris, nor were the front engine V8s. Everything evolves. You may not like the evolution but that doesn’t mean it’s not “real.”
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, '24 BMW I7 on order...
Originally Posted by drgek
If you haven’t driven a 232 you really should, as dynamically it is far more interesting than the previous generations. Styling is of course a personal decision and I VASTLY prefer the 232.
I’m curious what you mean by a “REAL” SL. A boulevard cruiser with a powerful engine? There are those who claim the R232 is exactly that. I know you don’t like the reversion to a soft top, but SLs of the past certainly had them. As you, I’m old enough to remember when Porsche fanatics wailed that the 993 was the last of the “real” 911s as the 996s had water cooled engines. Dinos were thought of as not being REAL Ferraris, nor were the front engine V8s. Everything evolves. You may not like the evolution but that doesn’t mean it’s not “real.”
Come on, you MUST know that my thoughts on the 232’s don’t mean a hill of beans—at least not on this forum. I’m just stating MY opinion and I absolutely know that virtually none of you here are going to agree with me. You folks like the 232’s, I like the previous model, it’s no big deal. All that said, it does make me smile when I think that my marvelous little car with the wonderfully trick hardtop cost me only around $88K loaded and has never been back to the dealer for anything other than scheduled maintenance in the 5+ years I’ve had it. Cheers!
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Originally Posted by drgek
If you haven’t driven a 232 you really should, as dynamically it is far more interesting than the previous generations. Styling is of course a personal decision and I VASTLY prefer the 232.
I’m curious what you mean by a “REAL” SL. A boulevard cruiser with a powerful engine? There are those who claim the R232 is exactly that. I know you don’t like the reversion to a soft top, but SLs of the past certainly had them. As you, I’m old enough to remember when Porsche fanatics wailed that the 993 was the last of the “real” 911s as the 996s had water cooled engines. Dinos were thought of as not being REAL Ferraris, nor were the front engine V8s. Everything evolves. You may not like the evolution but that doesn’t mean it’s not “real.”
Well, let's just put it this way, a "real SL" is super light (apparently that is what it means but in German), the new R232 isn't. Honestly saying if the R232 a real SL or not, they each have their pros and cons.
Well, let's just put it this way, a "real SL" is super light (apparently that is what it means but in German), the new R232 isn't. Honestly saying if the R232 a real SL or not, they each have their pros and cons.
The SL hasn’t deserved a super light title in decades, so this is nothing new. And the R231 was not used as a blueprint for the next SL, the AMG GT Roadster was.
The shocker however is the absolute weight gain of these cars (the SL or GT) without anything really to account for. 800 lbs.
I agree with the Throttle House GT Video.
AWD is the only relevant feature set and that should add less than 200 lbs. The weight of rear seats should be made up by the using the soft top vs the hardtop.
But unfortunately these cars are build with the standard AMG parts bin instead of the model specific ones in the prior models (such as transaxle, DCT) that actually dropped the prior AMG’s into 911 turbo weight territory.
I love the look of the new GT but there is no reason why they made it a porker like the M8.
Insert rant about BMW here How can they produce a new M5 that not only weights a 1000lbs more than the predecessor but is slower. 5400 lbs! for a performance sedan.
A 1200hp EV’s weighs less than that…
06-20-2024, 03:43 PM
How can they produce a new M5 that not only weights a 1000lbs more than the predecessor but is slower. 5400 lbs! for a performance sedan.
