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Old 09-19-2005, 04:43 AM
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Amazing what other companies are doing with the SL55: 2006 Fiscar Tramonto

SL people,
I'm a long time admirer of your cars and hopefully a future owner. Hope this isnt off topic but I thought you might like to see the latest addition to the SL relative gene pool. Its some company called Fiscar, they made a 610HP Kleeman/AMG engined car based on the SL platform (3.6 sec 0-60). Here's the link. and some pics...

http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...id/2050916.009




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VERY SHARP. I like it. ALOT
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for double the price of the car i wonder if he will even sell 150 units. nice idea for customizing the sl55 but the price is too high. for that price you can get a lot of other cars, ferrari, etc.
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What did they do to that Benz ? Making it an Aston Martin ?
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Good luck trying to sell any of those at 300k! It is nice to have something unique but not when it is a 300k re-bodied sl55. Talk about something that will depreciate faster than keys falling from a lear jet.
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its a astonbenz!
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its a astonbenz!
Thats what really struck me. Its supposed to be based on the 6-series, but it doesnt make me want to vomit so any resemblance must be very distant. If anything i see a DB9 from the side.
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Its supposed to be based on the 6-series, but it doesnt make me want to vomit so any resemblance must be very distant.
AutoWeek, in their Sept. 19th issue, says it's based on the SL55. If you look at the engine and the overhead view of the ****pit, it sure looks like the SL55.

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Its some company called Fiscar...
The company's name is Fisker Coachbuild. They're based in SoCal, and headed by the former BMW and Aston-Martin Designer Henrik Fisker.

Can anybody tell if there's just one body style, like the SL? I can't see where the panel breaks are that would let the top go down in the pic of the car with a visable metal top. It also seems like the pretty side panels of the back part of the roof wouldn't fit in the trunk, unless there's some fancy metal origami going on.

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There are two cars pictured above, a coupe based upon the BMW 6 series platform, and a convertible based upon the SL.
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Originally Posted by v8plus4
There are two cars pictured above, a coupe based upon the BMW 6 series platform, and a convertible based upon the SL.
Now it makes sense. Thanks.

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Fisker was of course one of the designers of Aston Martins, so it's no surprise he's ripping off Aston DNA for this car, just like the designer of the DB7 cannot resist making the new Jaguar XK look like an Aston as well.

I think Fisker has set himself up in SoCal, which must be one of the few markets in the world where he can sell this stuff. It would be interesting to see the roof up on the SL version because it's unlikely he's extensively re-engineered it and so it will look like a normal SL roof.

But then, as the Mamas and Papas said (and I believe them), it never rains in SoCal, so maybe he doesn't think it's needed.
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Originally Posted by v8plus4
There are two cars pictured above, a coupe based upon the BMW 6 series platform, and a convertible based upon the SL.
Interesting bit of info you got there, I should've read the entire article
This makes a lot more sense for the convertible
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New Maserati?

HI,

That top car may look very similar to how the new folding hard top Maserati Spyder which is due out in 2007.

Let's hope so!
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I don't consider the SL varient to be an immense improvement on the real SL's esthetics, at least from what I can see here. In fact, I like the real SL's front better.

OTOH, the other car really makes me sorry Fisker left BMW.

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Fisker's cars in AutoWeek

In the AutoWeek that arrived yesterday (9/26), there's a cover story on the two Fisker cars. Information not yet posted here includes:

You can bring them your SL55, and they'll modify it. If you don't bring them an SL to start with, the base Tramonto will set you back a little over 250 large, and the Kleemann performance package adds a little over $40K. Other then the Kleemann mods, the drivetrain is stock.

The base Latigo (that's the reskinned BMW 650) will set you back almost $200K, and you can spend a lot more by having them start with an M6.

Sounds like, in either case, it's about $120K for the new bodies.

No word on whether BMW and MB dealers will service the cars, but I would expect Finsker to make sure they will.

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Fisker's size

This is a tiny company, even if they fulfill their goals for these two cars. I went to their web site, and their charge to upgrade stock SL55s and 650s is $128,000 apiece. So their revenues from 300 cars (150 of each car, which is what they are saying is the production run), will be a little over $38 milllion. Now, they'll get the equivilant of the dealer markup on the base cars that are sold through them, and, they'll get some markup on the Kleemann performance package, so maybe they'll get a little better than $40 million out of the 300 cars. They probably won't sell them all in a year; indeed, they've been in business for 7 months, and it will be another 5 or 6 before they ship their first car. If the run sells out in two years of shipments, they will be averaging $12-14 million a year.

Figure their cost of good sold at half of revenues, add on the development cost, the not-inconsiderable advertising and customer-cosseting expenses, and maybe their profit is $2-2.5 million a year before taxes.

In order to turn this into a good-sized business, they've got to sell more per model, or come out with a lot more models. They've already used up two of the most desireable base cars.

Or maybe they want to stay small. One problem with that is that small companies are perceived to be, and usually actually are, less stable, and if you're buying a car, you want its manufacturer to be around for a long time.

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250 to 300K is relatively cheap for a personalized vehicle considering that AMG pre-MB acquisition made cars for individuals for around the same price in mid 1990's. For example, a E60 or even E63 estate or saloon were around $250K.
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I checked out Fisker after the Frankfurt show. Their interiors are top notch (as they should be with a coachbuilder), and their performance mods on the Tramonto are Kleeman, and impressive -- but I wasn't willing to part with my money for either the Tramonto or the Latigo....

2006 Fisker Tramonto
(Text & Photos courtesy of Fisker Coachbuild)
Based on Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG
Fisker Coachbuild announced its first two coachbuild designs at the Frankfurt International Auto Show. The Fisker 2006 Tramonto– a thrilling two-seat convertible sports car delivering 610 horsepower with top speeds of 202 mph, and the Fisker Latigo CS – an uncompromising and elegant coupe delivering up to 550 horsepower. Production will commence in April 2006.

The Fisker Coachbuild 2006 Tramonto is a sculpted statement of exotic, two-seat, open-air motoring. Beneath the skin, the engineering excellence of what its base architecture once was – a Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG – remains. The myriad Mercedes-Benz technological innovations, from the power-retractable hardtop to Active Body Control (ABC), remain untouched – as do safety systems, including crumple zones and airbags. At the same time, the Tramonto has become something much more, and the differences go beyond what meets the eye.

Compared to its original platform, the Tramonto is reproportioned with a shorter back end, a longer-looking hood line with a pronounced power dome, and no visual bumpers. For those who crave even more performance, the Performance Plus package is also available. Fisker Coachbuild has teamed with Kleemann, the world’s leader in Kompressor (supercharger) technology for Mercedes-Benz, to create the Fisker/ Kleemann 610-bhp supercharged 5.5-liter V8 which delivers a 0-60 mph in just 3.6 seconds.


Production of the 2006 Fisker Tramonto will be limited to 150 units. Production will commence in April 2006 – just over one year after the company opened its doors – enabling enthusiasts across the globe to experience coachbuild redefined. Fisker Coachbuild sports cars are created with a singular design language: instantly recognizable as a Fisker creation, inside and out. They are of the highest quality: created with only the best materials. They are exclusive: each model will be built in strictly limited numbers. And they are thrilling: already beginning life as a premier sports car, then raised to new heights of exotic at Fisker. Fisker and Koehler are bringing back one of the world’s greatest hand-crafted experiences in car design – coachbuilding. They are crafting an automotive line-up that will redefine automotive performance, elegance, luxury and exclusivity.

A sports car from Fisker Coachbuild is entirely new – and so is the way it is created. Our streamlined production process allows us to deliver an expertly finished, hand-crafted vehicle in a fraction of the time historically associated with coachbuild. Our super-luxury sports cars will still offer all the technology, safety and reliability of their original platforms. It is an unprecedented combination. Everywhere you look, the design speaks of exclusivity and performance. Interior and exterior surfaces reflect the Fisker DNA. Interior fit and finish are distinctive, and every body panel is crafted to our exact specifications. Everywhere you touch, the finest materials touch back. Glove-soft leather graces the interior; aluminum and carbon-fiber panels define the body. A deep, lustrous finish highlights every curve, in every color offered by the original manufacturer, plus a palette of exclusive Fisker colors. It’s only fitting, because a Fisker is a step above what any manufacturer offers to enhance their own vehicles, and a move beyond what an aftermarket tuner alone can deliver. Indeed, Henrik Fisker and Bernhard Koehler are redefining one of the greatest experiences in automotive design – coachbuild – for the 21 st century.

Tramonto Exterior Design
A sculpted statement of exotic, two-seat, open air motoring
The stance is wide and low. Ground hugging. The lines flow smoothly from start to finish – unbroken in the signature Fisker style. The overall look conveys movement, speed and power, whether the power retractable hardtop is secured for foul-weather driving or stowed for open-air motoring.

Compared to its original platform, the Tramonto is reproportioned with a shorter back end, a longer-looking hood line with a pronounced power dome, and no visual bumpers. It is poised, balanced, sculptured…and exotic. From any angle, the message is uncompromisingly beautiful. Unmistakably Fisker.

Take a casual glance at the new car’s muscular lines. Gaps between body panels are tight and uniform. Aluminum and carbon fiber – materials that befit an exotic sports car – make up the body panels. Steel is used judiciously, to enhance structural rigidity. All Fisker Coachbuild models will have an all-new exterior design and re-designed interior expressing a distinctive Fisker Design DNA. Each Fisker car will also have a recognizable face. The grille design was inspired by highly sophisticated aircraft designs, such as the F/A-22 Raptor. The Fisker Tramonto’s stunning front silhouette is similar to this sleek jet aircraft, with the large center opening tying into the fuselage and the two wings expanding from the mouth. Distinctive, indeed.

Exterior details to take note of include:
• Anodized aluminum wire mesh grille with the incorporation of the two bars from the
• Fisker Coachbuild logo (also available with black powder coating)
• Black powder coated aluminum mesh on the lower front spoiler
• Fog lights inset with carbon fiber bezels in the lower front spoiler
• LED indicator integrated into the wire mesh grille design
• Power dome design incorporating a race-inspired, 1,500-degree heat shield on the interior polished carbon fiber hood surface
• Anodized aluminum wire mesh side vents with chrome finish surrounds
• 3-Dimensional milled aluminum and hand painted badges
• Dynamic design sculpture of the wheel lip coming out of the body
• Lightweight, purpose designed 5-spoke, 3-piece 20” wheels
• Retractable hard top
• Existing door handles integrated into body design to retain the retractable hard top mechanism
• Carbon fiber rear diffuser
• Purpose designed integrated tail lamps and polished chrome exhausts

As the design of each detail evidences, the focus of the Fisker Coachbuild is unwavering. One look at the grille and you will see the finest quality materials – from the front indicator LED incorporated into the aluminum wire mesh grille to the wire mesh side vents, both complete with aluminum surround and chrome finish. These expressions of true craftsmanship are seen on every part of the TRAMONTO’s exterior, back to its stunning tail lamp and exhaust design.

Tramonto Interior Design
Interior design is as crucial as the exterior – after all, it is here that driver and machine become one. To bring the Fisker Coachbuild design to life, we have teamed with Distinctive Industries, the American-based leather interior experts. All seat and fascia surfaces are expertly hand trimmed and hand stitched, in a selection of super-premium, soft yet durable Italian leathers. Milled aluminum highlights the center console, and aluminum details accent the switch gear – joining with leather to form the strong Fisker logo bars on the gear shift knob. The multifunction steering wheel is a Fisker original, with built-in sound system controls. Thoughtful, functional touches include improved cell phone storage and an analog clock.

Other signature treatments include:
• Milled aluminum-finished caps on seat positioning switches
• Gear shift with aluminum and leather textures incorporating the Fisker logo
• Hand-stitched leather four-spoke steering wheel
• Fisker-enhanced shift paddle design
• Enhanced graphics on instrument panels
• Improved cell phone storage space
• Aluminum door sill plaques engraved with Fisker Coachbuild, which sits on the polished carbon fiber sill panel
• Analog clock which sits in an aluminum bezel
• Contoured sports seats covered in soft quality leather both front and seat back
• Single piece milled aluminum center console with unique numbering sequence

Fisker based the interior design on a basic ****pit theme. It combines sporting character with high levels of hand craftsmanship, unique characteristics and luxurious comfort. Open the Tramonto’s door, and one of the first expressions of true design you’ll notice is the sill plaque with an aluminum Fisker Coachbuild lettered plaque sitting upon a fine piece of carbon fiber. Installed as a complete assembly, the center console makes a new signature statement. The unit construction demonstrates rare aesthetics in the aluminum caged design. It also features a symmetrical look into which the controls and switches are integrated. The instrument cluster retains the three main gauges with Fisker accents. “There is a unique sense of intimacy with the interior design through the use of natural materials,” expresses Henrik Fisker, CEO of Fisker Coachbuild. “Close attention to detail ensures a high quality fit, finish and feel.”

The cabin experience is rounded out with such technical niceties as the standard COMAND system with DVD navigation, and the digital Bose® Cabin SurroundTM sound system. This audio tour de force features multichannel architecture, utilizing eight speakers and 5.1-channel Bose CenterpointTM signal processing to generate a 360º field of sound. And Bose AudioPilotTM digitally compensates for unwanted ambient noise, to maintain clarity with no perceptible change in volume.

You can also choose from the long list of SL 55 AMG options, such as the Hands-Free Communication System, Keyless Go, Distronic adaptive cruise control, Parktronic sensors front and rear, a Panorama roof for an expansive view of the sky even when the top is up, and SIRIUS Satellite Radio. Any and all options are available when you select your original vehicle – and all will be there for you when the transformation to Fisker Tramonto is complete.

Tramonto Performance
At Fisker Coachbuild, design excellence is met with equal parts performance mastery. Fisker automobiles will offer nimble and athletic performance. Competition-proven materials and technology grace the base engine with a coveted combination of performance and reliability. Handcrafted by a dedicated AMG technician, the 5.5-liter 24-valve V8 features forged aluminum piston, precision-balanced crankshaft and ultra-efficient liquid-to-air intercooler delivering 493 bhp and a 0-60 in 4.5 seconds.

Performance Plus package
For those who crave even more, the Performance Plus package is also available. Fisker Coachbuild has teamed with Kleemann, the world’s leader in Kompressor (supercharger) technology for Mercedes-Benz, to create the Fisker/Kleemann 610-hp supercharged 5.5-liter V8 with a 0-60 mph in just 3.6 seconds. The performance starts with custom-made ECU program, redesigned pulley wheel and Super Sport Camshafts, to maximize engine output. Enlarged stainless steel tubular exhaust headers, down pipes and 70 mm dual exhaust system with four steel cats allow for freer breathing…a system which is further enhanced with Kleemann 120-cell metal catalysts for maximum performance gain. All of these modifications result in rewards that range from the concrete to the visceral. The supercharged engine produces over 650 lb-ft of torque and 610 hp, delivering a 0-60 time of 3.6 seconds and smooth power throughout the entire operating range. And while it cannot be quantified, the music of the Fisker/Kleemann engine produces some strong feelings of its own.

Power delivery is controlled through a 5-speed AMG SpeedShift transmission, with Fisker-modified aluminum paddle-shift controls for manual-style shifting. The adaptive, automatic transmission monitors driving style and adjusts shift patterns accordingly. “This is one of the most technically advanced powerplants ever undertaken by Mercedes-Benz with AMG-enhanced dynamics,” notes Bernhard Koehler, COO Fisker Coachbuild. “We wanted to offer a little something more to those that may just have to have it.”

Tramonto Dynamics
To thoroughly enjoy the power and performance of the Tramonto, a class-leading suspension and braking system are absolutely essential. The independent suspension is 4-link in the front / 5-arm multilink in the rear, optimized with an AMG-enhanced version of Active Body Control (ABC) that continually adjusts each wheel’s suspension in response to road conditions and driving style. Electronic Stability Control (ESP) imparts even greater levels of handling confidence. Rack-and-pinion steering features vehicle-speed sensitive power assist with integrated hydraulic damper.

Stopping power is provided by standard AMG-enhanced 4-circuit electrohydraulic brakes, or by the Kleemann High-Performance Brake system as part of the Fisker Performance Plus Package. The Kleemann system represents a major advance in brake technology, setting new standards for response, fade resistance, stability and long-term endurance. Massive disc pads provide nearly 85% greater area compared to other high-performance pads, and an innovative design allows for very high and consistent friction coefficients during deceleration, regardless of weather. The Kleemann High Performance Brake system features fully floating, directional, ventilated front discs front and rear. 15" (380mm), 8-piston calipers front; 13" (330mm), 4-piston calipers rear. The system is fully compatible with Mercedes-Benz Sensotronic Brake Control, Anti-lock Braking System and Brake Assist.

The Fisker Tramonto boasts high-style, lightweight alloy five-spoke, three piece 20" wheels with high-performance tires. The wheel lip design is sculptured with sensibility, as an organic extension of the body.
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