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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Sl65 Or Porsche Gt2

Since the 2 models are around the price range I'm looking for, I need some opinions about the 2 models. Does anyone here own both models currently or in the past?


Which model would you choose for the following categories:
1. Acceleration
2. Handling
3. Braking
4. Comfort
5. Modification availabilities
6. Looks
7. Prestige
8. Potential of being a collectable car

Whichever car I purchase will pretty much be a weekend/track car and occasional long drive within California.

Thanks.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Completely different cars. Completely, completely different. Get seat time in both, decide what you want depending on how you're going to use it and waht your personal parameters are. Too large of an invesment, and too completely different, to decide without getting seat time in both.....
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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As much as I love my SL55 I would recomend the GT2 for what you want to do with it.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Oops, rechecked and saw the 'track car' part -- nope to SL65 for that.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fastneutron
Since the 2 models are around the price range I'm looking for, I need some opinions about the 2 models. Does anyone here own both models currently or in the past?


Which model would you choose for the following categories:
1. Acceleration
2. Handling
3. Braking
4. Comfort
5. Modification availabilities
6. Looks
7. Prestige
8. Potential of being a collectable car

Whichever car I purchase will pretty much be a weekend/track car and occasional long drive within California.

Thanks.

I would say:
1. Same
2. GT2
3. GT2
4. SL65
5. GT2
6. Subjective Gt2 looks like any other 911 with aero package to most but SL65 looks like any SL500 to most.
7. I think neither are very prestigious in a place like Cali. or any big city.
8. Neither will hold any "collector" status.

Benz is a convert. though, should be worth something in Cali. Looks like you should look at the Gallardo from your criteria.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fastneutron
Since the 2 models are around the price range I'm looking for, I need some opinions about the 2 models. Does anyone here own both models currently or in the past?


Which model would you choose for the following categories:
1. Acceleration Stock for Stock...SL65
2. Handling GT2
3. Braking GT2
4. Comfort SL65
5. Modification availabilities Even
6. Looks Depends on your tastes
7. Prestige SL65 to the general public, GT2 to sports car enthusiasts
8. Potential of being a collectable car GT2, it's a limited production car made stricitly for homologation purposes

Whichever car I purchase will pretty much be a weekend/track car and occasional long drive within California. Depends which track you mean...SL65 for dragstrip, GT2 for road course

Thanks.
You really can't go wrong with either, both are the pinnacle of German engineering.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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You're not even comparing apples and oranges... more like apples and broccoli. Yes they're both have a glove box and four wheels but those are two completely different cars there...

I will chime in on the prestige however... IMHO I think the nod goes to the SL65. It's over the top excess wherein the GT2 is a true "pay for performance" car.

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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Three clarifying questions:
You've surveyed what's available and it is down to these two?
Your budget is $200K or less?
It has to be brand new, or it could be used but clean?
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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u cant compare those cars.
btw why would u even consider a mb for a track car.... r u

especially 1 of the heaviest ones
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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I have had both and currently own a GT2. The SL is a car that you can spend much more time in and your wife or girlfriend will really enjoy it. The SL is very fast and easy to drive. It is a great freeway car and around town. Do not track it! It was not meant to be tracked and is way too heavy. It will not handle anywhere near the level of the GT2. But, it has all of the electronic safety features to keep you out of trouble.

The GT2 cannot be compared to the SL. You should not be choosing between these 2 cars. They were built for 2 different reasons. If you want to track the car and have another car for a daily driver, then a GT2 or GT3 is the way to go. My wife will not ride in it and can't stand it. She says that it is loud, uncomfortable, bumpy, etc. She loved the SL!

I love my GT2 and would not trade it for an SL65. I drive it once or twice a week and it is a great hobby car to mod and play with. When I had the SL I kept trying to make it something that it wasn't. Just different strokes for different folks......

Here are a few pics of my 600hp beast......

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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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Just get an Sl500 for $95k and a Carerra for $75k. Same Price as an SL65. Problem Solved :> I have both, because they are "COMPLETELY" different.. it's like driving an SUV vs a car..
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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kinda like what he said^

except get a gt3 and a sl500, or even better a used sl55
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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except get a gt3 and a sl500, or even better a used sl55
That's exactly what I would do. Used SL55 and used GT3. You'll get both for less than a new SL65.

Vader just picked up a used GT3 with something like 4k miles for 90k. And I know you can score a used SL55 with low mileage for even less than that.
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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I'm sure after doing some test drives next month, I'll come into a conclusion.

Thanks everyone for your input and Happy Holidays..
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 12:59 AM
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Sounds like you want the GT2! I can just tell by the questions you're asking and.......the fact that it will be your weekend toy! Can't compare the two cars. Different animals all together. SL is a luxury convertable that packs a mean punch! GT2 is pretty much a sports car in every aspect!
My vote is........daily driver, get the SL. Weekend toy, get the GT2. My $.02!
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Happy Hunting! ...and make sure you tell us what you get.....
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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The GT2 is a great part time/hobby car. Remember the traction and stability controls are non existant on the GT2 and that why 25% of them have been crashed. You can drive the SL65 every day and basicly fear no high perfomance car in the stop light grad prix. The SL65 edged out a porsche turbo S on the streets of willow in CAR & DRIVER 9/05. Not bad for 4500lbs. Yes, the GT2 is more nimble and will stomp a SL65 on the track, in the hands of a very good driver. The decision is simple, unless you are a died in the wool track junkie, go for the SL and enjoy the power knowing electronic intervention will save you. Unless you have an FIA license, you can expect the GT2 to turn your adrenalin brown.
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 04:37 AM
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I have less extreme versions of the two cars you're looking at, but even at my level, the SL55 and 996TT are very different cars. The SL55 is a luxury GT with good performance but a sports car it is not. The 996TT is harder riding, a bit faster and much more of a pure sports cars. Other things being equal, I will reach for the keys of the 996 instead of the SL55.

Move the comparison on to the SL65 and GT2 and the differences become more accentuated. The SL65 has more power but some difficulty putting it down on the road; it's also rather heavier which makes it less wieldy. The GT2 has the luxury of the 996TT stripped out, more power, so much more honed sports car but, as Jim says, you're on your own when the back steps out in the wet. I can see the point of the GT2 over the 996TT, but I cannot see the point of the SL65 over the SL55, though SL65 owners will defend it to the death. More objective comparisons ask the question "Why?".

If you only buy one of these cars, you're likely to be left wanting what the other offers, so if ever there is a case for having both this is it. If cost is an issue, look at the SL55 and 996TT or 996 GT3. You'll then have all bases covered.

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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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I have less extreme versions of the two cars you're looking at, but even at my level, the SL55 and 996TT are very different cars. The SL55 is a luxury GT with good performance but a sports car it is not. The 996TT is harder riding, a bit faster and much more of a pure sports cars. Other things being equal, I will reach for the keys of the 996 instead of the SL55.

Move the comparison on to the SL65 and GT2 and the differences become more accentuated. The SL65 has more power but some difficulty putting it down on the road; it's also rather heavier which makes it less wieldy. The GT2 has the luxury of the 996TT stripped out, more power, so much more honed sports car but, as Jim says, you're on your own when the back steps out in the wet. I can see the point of the GT2 over the 996TT, but I cannot see the point of the SL65 over the SL55, though SL65 owners will defend it to the death. More objective comparisons ask the question "Why?".

If you only buy one of these cars, you're likely to be left wanting what the other offers, so if ever there is a case for having both this is it. If cost is an issue, look at the SL55 and 996TT or 996 GT3. You'll then have all bases covered.
That is true, the 65 has a problem from a take off standpoint, but after that all hell breaks loose. The 65 is very similiar to other car models in price difference. More horses, more torque, and little else. Some people even say that it should look different, but very few manufacturers seem to make a completely different car without asking far more than $200,000.00 at this level. The more parts that are shared, the more affordable. A completely different car may start in the high 2's, if not higher.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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These 2 are totally different. Everyone is saying that the SL can't be tracked. I have tracked the SL55 and it is very accomplished. I have also run canyon roads with it against my Fcar buddies and ran away from them.

Unless you are fairly skilled the GT2 could bite you very hard.....Lots of power and no driver aids.........along with a rear engine! Could be fun.........but it has the potential to leave you in tears.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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Question was tracking SL65 -- not the same as trackin' an SL55....
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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get a new F430. you got this much money to play with why not. absolute pinnacle of performance in a car.


but whichever you decide with you will be happy. The GT2 is a crazy car, unless youve been in one you really dont understand how outrageous those cars are at their limits. the SL is really an SL at heart, ready to drive around town and take an occasional romp on the gas but its not made as a track car whatsoever, yea sure it can do it with the best of them but you dont buy an SL65 for a track car. thats actually funny just to think about. if you are trackin then go for the P car and if its just a cruiser for some drag strips, get the 65.
happy hunting
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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get a new F430. you got this much money to play with why not. absolute pinnacle of performance in a car.
I assumed that money was an issue and that he had narrowed his choice down to the GT2 or an SL65 (didn't he say that?) or I would've recommended a half-dozen better and less expensive track cars, or other candidates for combined everyday and track use.......
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