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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Which is faster...SL55 or SL65...you'll be surprised!

Like I have always felt...........the SL55 is a superior handling car and a better package. Check this out.....

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Well, here comes the flack!

...but hearsay has it that I have a couple of SL55's, and that I am ordering a couple more -- and that I don't have any SL65's...

...now I'm going to go get into my racing underwear and firesuit....
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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My SL55 has spent a little time on the track and has embarassed some pretty "heavy hitters"

HP isn't the answer....it's the package and the driver.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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Same day, same track, same weather,driver yada yada yada. I know one track it isn't though and thats the 1/4 and it doesn't matter where its located!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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SL55 better than SL65?

Well there's an unbiased opinion if I ever saw one.

To solve this, I say:

Who cares, the SL600 is the true king in the SL class. :v *ahem* As I've always felt.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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Who cares, the SL600 is the true king in the SL class. :v *ahem* As I've always felt.
I agree...Lexani for PRESIDENT! 2008! You're vote COUNTS!
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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I agree...Lexani for PRESIDENT! 2008! You're vote COUNTS!
Yea, spread the word! Enough votes, and I become Moderator! Hopefully... :p
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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It seems as if the only people who have a problem with the SL65 are the people who don't own one, either by choice or limitations. I have owned the 55 and the 65. Both have their weaknesses and strengths. Because I have no intentions of taking my car on a course and competing, I really dont care about the track times in Germany or any where else. The 65 serves the purpose for my limited needs.

The SL65 understands its place and has a clear hedgehog concept. Try passing me as I am cruising on 95 or the Florida Turnpike and I promise to give you something to wrote home to yo mamma about. Thats the reason Carl Lewis ran the 100 meter and not the marathon. He knew what he was better than everyone else at.

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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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It seems as if the only people who have a problem with the SL65 are the people who don't own one, either by choice or limitations. I have owned the 55 and the 65. Both have their weaknesses and strengths. Because I have no intentions of taking my car on a course and competing, I really dont care about the track times in Germany or any where else. The 65 serves the purpose for my limited needs.

The SL65 understands its place and has a clear hedgehog concept. Try passing me as I am cruising on 95 or the Florida Turnpike and I promise to give you something to wrote home to yo mamma about. Thats the reason Carl Lewis ran the 100 meter and not the marathon. He knew what he was better than everyone else at.

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Against another Mercedes? Yes. Against many other fast cars out there? No. The SL65 is a badass fast car, but it doesnt do its power justice. I can say this because I have driven one and drivena McLaren too. The car is fast, but dont go driving around thinking that there is nothing on the street that can pass you. Because, there are plenty that will pass you and even plenty that will do it for a 1/3rd the cost....
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Against another Mercedes? Yes. Against many other fast cars out there? No. The SL65 is a badass fast car, but it doesnt do its power justice. I can say this because I have driven one and drivena McLaren too. The car is fast, but dont go driving around thinking that there is nothing on the street that can pass you. Because, there are plenty that will pass you and even plenty that will do it for a 1/3rd the cost....

It doesn't do what power justice? On the street is where it uses its power unlike on a tight track. There aint nothing blowing by an SL65 on a straight road except a few select supercars or a seriously modded tuner. Name some cars that are 1/3 the cost that are normal production that will do as you say.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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It doesn't do what power justice? On the street is where it uses its power unlike on a tight track. There aint nothing blowing by an SL65 on a straight road except a few select supercars or a seriously modded tuner. Name some cars that are 1/3 the cost that are normal production that will do as you say.

I'd also like to know what cars in the $60K range can match the performance of the SL65. The only thing I can think of is the Z06.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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I guarantee a Z06 with just a Stage 1 cam and Headers will be able to beat a SL 65...it has 550 rwhp and there are even other cam kits available, like 2, 2+, and then 3. And that will run you about 75k give or take some...
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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Yes.......Z06 or, how about a Viper? Either car may give you something to talk about! The SL65 is definately the better all around choice I think though!
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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I knew this thread would bring out the worst...but I did it anyway.

I ordered a 65....and drove it when it came in and for my purposes it wasn't worth it. And I more than could have bought it. It handled like a sled compared to the 55.........so I passed. From a rational standpoint AMG V12s depreciate like rocks...the 65 is a better used car purchase if you must have 600hp....which most guys can bearly handle 300hp

A friend of mine has one and I have left him for dead on windy roads....time and time again. And then when we hit a straight sure he's quick, but....like alot of guys that can only go straight he runs out of ***** about 120 or so, claiming that's all he wanted to do..........as the 55 streaks by.

The Nurburgring time of 8 sec a lap is more than believable as the 55 is just a better overall package.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Juice it
It doesn't do what power justice? On the street is where it uses its power unlike on a tight track. There aint nothing blowing by an SL65 on a straight road except a few select supercars or a seriously modded tuner. Name some cars that are 1/3 the cost that are normal production that will do as you say.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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I guarantee a Z06 with just a Stage 1 cam and Headers will be able to beat a SL 65...it has 550 rwhp and there are even other cam kits available, like 2, 2+, and then 3. And that will run you about 75k give or take some...
Like I said, a modded car and the vette as you describe would be fairly equal and wouldn't "blow" by thats for sure. I would still put my money on the Benz the higher the speed gets as long as the limiter is removed. The Z06 is my personal choice for bang for the buck though. Viper would be the same way and would need to be modded.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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It's amazing how a modded Z06 is always mentioned as the cheaper ride that will compete with the SL65. It's cheaper for a reason. There are many cars that cost more than the SL65 that can't come close to the straight line performance. A modded 65 will make these cars look like complete crap and make many doubt their worth(Ferrari/Lamorghini) if comparing modded cars to stock cars is your thing.

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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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I would own an SL65 if money were no object, obviously money is an object to me because I have a 55, but I just could not take loosing as much as most of the 65's have done since release. There was a white '05 65 with 9,XXX miles on her that brought $125K, those were some expensive 9K miles for someone. I love the 55's package, but I don't think it is faster than a car that is two steps above it. Just my $.02, I could be wrong.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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I guarantee a Z06 with just a Stage 1 cam and Headers will be able to beat a SL 65...it has 550 rwhp and there are even other cam kits available, like 2, 2+, and then 3. And that will run you about 75k give or take some...

verse a stock SL65 yea i can see that.... but we race vettes all the time at the track... to this day i have only need one street legal vette that was as fast as our SL65, and he invested about 80k on top of the price of his... and his wasnt even a Z06.

The average time the Z06's are running is about low to mid 12's
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Originally Posted by IngenereAMG
I knew this thread would bring out the worst...but I did it anyway.

I ordered a 65....and drove it when it came in and for my purposes it wasn't worth it. And I more than could have bought it. It handled like a sled compared to the 55.........so I passed. From a rational standpoint AMG V12s depreciate like rocks...the 65 is a better used car purchase if you must have 600hp....which most guys can bearly handle 300hp

A friend of mine has one and I have left him for dead on windy roads....time and time again. And then when we hit a straight sure he's quick, but....like alot of guys that can only go straight he runs out of ***** about 120 or so, Just claiming that's all he wanted to do..........as the 55 streaks by.

The Nurburgring time of 8 sec a lap is more than believable as the 55 is just a better overall package.

Don't damn the car because of your friends fear factor. Just the other day on I-95 in Boca my wife was driving the 65 and I was trailing her in my SUV.
A guy driving a Scaglietti pulled up behind her doing short burst, and revving. Unfortunately traffic was jammed for miles or he would have had his *** handed to him, from that sled handling car you are talking about. The Nurburgring track wouldn't have been there to save his ***.

Chat with ya later, I am at The Buccaneer Resort in St. Croix where there are plenty of wynding mountain roads.

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Originally Posted by DBERRY7578

Thats the reason Carl Lewis ran the 100 meter and not the marathon. He knew what he was better than everyone else at.

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He was on drugs, excellent comparison.
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Originally Posted by NeilH
He was on drugs, excellent comparison.
What?

Carl Lewis never tested positive for drugs, but the 65 stays high off of demanding that many cars bow or be tamed!!!!!!!!!!

LOL
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I thought that in 2003 Lewis admitted that he had tested positive three times for banned stimulants during the 1988 Olympic trials??
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Originally Posted by DBERRY7578
Don't damn the car because of your friends fear factor. Just the other day on I-95 in Boca my wife was driving the 65 and I was trailing her in my SUV.
A guy driving a Scaglietti pulled up behind her doing short burst, and revving. Unfortunately traffic was jammed for miles or he would have had his *** handed to him, from that sled handling car you are talking about. The Nurburgring track wouldn't have been there to save his ***.

Chat with ya later, I am at The Buccaneer Resort in St. Croix where there are plenty of wynding mountain roads.
It just comes down to different strokes.........Your statement is my point. The 65 is basically a point and shoot car. The better overall package is the 55....I say that because I love road courses and mountain roads. That difference is why I sold my spot on the 65 list.

This whole drag raicng thing and 1/4 times is just a differnt phylosophy from what I think driving is all about. I think its about finding the right braking/shift points and apexing the corner just right and feeding in the gas to get the best launch out of each corner. Point and hold on just doesn't do it for me.

In the US that's all people care about. I speak with the M3 people (an obvious canyon carving package), and these guys are only concerned about 1/4 mile times as well. Oh well...........maybe I'll get it one day.........NOT!
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It just comes down to different strokes....The 65 is basically a point and shoot car. The better overall package is the 55....I say that because I love road courses and mountain roads. That difference is why I sold my spot on the 65 list....This whole drag raicng thing and 1/4 times is just a differnt phylosophy from what I think driving is all about. I think its about finding the right braking/shift points and apexing the corner just right and feeding in the gas to get the best launch out of each corner. Point and hold on just doesn't do it for me....Oh well...........maybe I'll get it one day.........NOT!
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