SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Gallardo any one?
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Gallardo any one?
Do any of you guys have any first hand knowledge on the gallardo? I saw one the other day and it looked amazing. I know its not as fast as the sl but man it looked so good. As some of you know I have been toying with the idea of getting something else and I have looked at 997tt, 996tt, turbo vipers, ford gt's, bentleys, and now at the gallardo. In all the sl is the best all around car and we know it can handle some miles put on it but I must admit it does not look as great as it is. The lambos, f430's and even the ford gt just look great. Any ideas or knowledge on how the gallardo performs, quality, cost to keep etc. Also is this a big step down in power and speed?
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damm bro another new car you just got the bi-turbo! i to like the galardo and am thinkin that will be my next car but id have to sell the hummer and E55 just to get one. F-430 wow now your talkin.
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the f430 rules in performance, quality and style from my eyes.
* you wouldnt want the gallardo to blow you to pieces when you hit the start engine button would you?
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Do any of you guys have any first hand knowledge on the gallardo? I saw one the other day and it looked amazing. I know its not as fast as the sl but man it looked so good. As some of you know I have been toying with the idea of getting something else and I have looked at 997tt, 996tt, turbo vipers, ford gt's, bentleys, and now at the gallardo. In all the sl is the best all around car and we know it can handle some miles put on it but I must admit it does not look as great as it is. The lambos, f430's and even the ford gt just look great. Any ideas or knowledge on how the gallardo performs, quality, cost to keep etc. Also is this a big step down in power and speed?
I have had a 2006 Gallardo Coupe for several months now and the car is simply stunning. Everywhere I go the car gets lots of attention and compliments. The other cars you mentioned are great cars, you cant go wrong with any of them. My G is egear, (which I recommend) so it doenst fly off the line unless I do a performance launch which isnt so great for the car.
From a roll the Gallardo (2006+) is pretty powerful. The comparison is a 520 HP, 3500 pound car, vs a 604 HP, 4500 pound car. The Gallardo's acceleration is pretty close to my SL600, although the SL600 feels a lot faster due to it's, kick you in the butt, torque. Traction is also never an issue in the G, whereas that yellow warning light is on all the time in my SL600.
So the SL65 may be a little bit quicker, but the Gallardo handles better, brakes better, and sounds better. In my opinion The SL65 is unbeatable in terms of luxury, performance, class, and driveability. The Gallardo's quality (and the Murcis) is top notch and Lambos are not that expensive to service.
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I recently got an SL65, but have not had the chance to drive it much yet as it was sent off immediately to get the Renntech Stage 3 and exhaust work done. However, my Renntech SL600 (625 HP) is a pretty good acceleration comparison to the SL65, and probably a hair quicker than a stock SL65.
I have had a 2006 Gallardo Coupe for several months now and the car is simply stunning. Everywhere I go the car gets lots of attention and compliments. The other cars you mentioned are great cars, you cant go wrong with any of them. My G is egear, (which I recommend) so it doenst fly off the line unless I do a performance launch which isnt so great for the car.
From a roll the Gallardo (2006+) is pretty powerful. The comparison is a 520 HP, 3500 pound car, vs a 604 HP, 4500 pound car. The Gallardo's acceleration is pretty close to my SL600, although the SL600 feels a lot faster due to it's, kick you in the butt, torque. Traction is also never an issue in the G, whereas that yellow warning light is on all the time in my SL600.
So the SL65 may be a little bit quicker, but the Gallardo handles better, brakes better, and sounds better. In my opinion The SL65 is unbeatable in terms of luxury, performance, class, and driveability. The Gallardo's quality (and the Murcis) is top notch and Lambos are not that expensive to service.
Hope this information helps
Aaron
I have had a 2006 Gallardo Coupe for several months now and the car is simply stunning. Everywhere I go the car gets lots of attention and compliments. The other cars you mentioned are great cars, you cant go wrong with any of them. My G is egear, (which I recommend) so it doenst fly off the line unless I do a performance launch which isnt so great for the car.
From a roll the Gallardo (2006+) is pretty powerful. The comparison is a 520 HP, 3500 pound car, vs a 604 HP, 4500 pound car. The Gallardo's acceleration is pretty close to my SL600, although the SL600 feels a lot faster due to it's, kick you in the butt, torque. Traction is also never an issue in the G, whereas that yellow warning light is on all the time in my SL600.
So the SL65 may be a little bit quicker, but the Gallardo handles better, brakes better, and sounds better. In my opinion The SL65 is unbeatable in terms of luxury, performance, class, and driveability. The Gallardo's quality (and the Murcis) is top notch and Lambos are not that expensive to service.
Hope this information helps
Aaron
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JRD tuning (panoz esperante tuner) is going to be doing my Renntech upgrades. They are going to dyno the car before all the upgrades and after all the upgrades. I am not going to have them dyno before airbox and after as its not a concern of mine. From what I have read it's not so much about the peak horsepower gains with the airbox but the gains throughout the curve.
My guess is The SL600 will slowly walk away from the Gallardo, but it wont be very dramatic. I have never actually raced the Gallardo and the SL600 side by side, however, I have raced the Gallardo and Murci side by side from 50 - 100, and they were fairly close with the Murci pulling very slowly ahead. I have also raced the Murci and the SL600 side by side from 30 to 80 and they were nearly dead even. I even got identical 0-60 times with the Murci and SL600 with my driftbox/gtech. I hope to get a side by side comparison of the Gallardo and the SL600 from 30-80 or so soon.
The clutch issues were early Gallardo (pre 2006) problems as far as I know. Having egear really helps minimize any clutch issues as well. I havent had to have either my Gallardo or my Murci (which I traded for my Gallardo) in the shop at all. Keep in mind that I only put like 1000 miles on the Murci while I had it and about 900 on the Gallardo.
Bottom line is, the cars are so different they can barely be compared to one another. I would not give up your SL65 for a Gallardo, but it would make a very nice addition if that's your plan.
Aaron
My guess is The SL600 will slowly walk away from the Gallardo, but it wont be very dramatic. I have never actually raced the Gallardo and the SL600 side by side, however, I have raced the Gallardo and Murci side by side from 50 - 100, and they were fairly close with the Murci pulling very slowly ahead. I have also raced the Murci and the SL600 side by side from 30 to 80 and they were nearly dead even. I even got identical 0-60 times with the Murci and SL600 with my driftbox/gtech. I hope to get a side by side comparison of the Gallardo and the SL600 from 30-80 or so soon.
The clutch issues were early Gallardo (pre 2006) problems as far as I know. Having egear really helps minimize any clutch issues as well. I havent had to have either my Gallardo or my Murci (which I traded for my Gallardo) in the shop at all. Keep in mind that I only put like 1000 miles on the Murci while I had it and about 900 on the Gallardo.
Bottom line is, the cars are so different they can barely be compared to one another. I would not give up your SL65 for a Gallardo, but it would make a very nice addition if that's your plan.
Aaron
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I have to agree here.. giving up the comforts of the SL65 for a Gallardo will be a mistake that I think you regret. The Gallardo has its purpose, but luxury is not one of them. The interior.. is functional.. but I think you will sorely miss the comfort and easy to drive aspect of the SL65. Although the SL65 and Gallardo would make a great combo to have if you can pull it off...
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JRD tuning (panoz esperante tuner) is going to be doing my Renntech upgrades. They are going to dyno the car before all the upgrades and after all the upgrades. I am not going to have them dyno before airbox and after as its not a concern of mine. From what I have read it's not so much about the peak horsepower gains with the airbox but the gains throughout the curve.
My guess is The SL600 will slowly walk away from the Gallardo, but it wont be very dramatic. I have never actually raced the Gallardo and the SL600 side by side, however, I have raced the Gallardo and Murci side by side from 50 - 100, and they were fairly close with the Murci pulling very slowly ahead. I have also raced the Murci and the SL600 side by side from 30 to 80 and they were nearly dead even. I even got identical 0-60 times with the Murci and SL600 with my driftbox/gtech. I hope to get a side by side comparison of the Gallardo and the SL600 from 30-80 or so soon.
The clutch issues were early Gallardo (pre 2006) problems as far as I know. Having egear really helps minimize any clutch issues as well. I havent had to have either my Gallardo or my Murci (which I traded for my Gallardo) in the shop at all. Keep in mind that I only put like 1000 miles on the Murci while I had it and about 900 on the Gallardo.
Bottom line is, the cars are so different they can barely be compared to one another. I would not give up your SL65 for a Gallardo, but it would make a very nice addition if that's your plan.
Aaron
My guess is The SL600 will slowly walk away from the Gallardo, but it wont be very dramatic. I have never actually raced the Gallardo and the SL600 side by side, however, I have raced the Gallardo and Murci side by side from 50 - 100, and they were fairly close with the Murci pulling very slowly ahead. I have also raced the Murci and the SL600 side by side from 30 to 80 and they were nearly dead even. I even got identical 0-60 times with the Murci and SL600 with my driftbox/gtech. I hope to get a side by side comparison of the Gallardo and the SL600 from 30-80 or so soon.
The clutch issues were early Gallardo (pre 2006) problems as far as I know. Having egear really helps minimize any clutch issues as well. I havent had to have either my Gallardo or my Murci (which I traded for my Gallardo) in the shop at all. Keep in mind that I only put like 1000 miles on the Murci while I had it and about 900 on the Gallardo.
Bottom line is, the cars are so different they can barely be compared to one another. I would not give up your SL65 for a Gallardo, but it would make a very nice addition if that's your plan.
Aaron
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I recently purchased a 2006 F430 F1 and it is great. Test drove the Lambo Spyder and from a price and looks perspective makes more sense than the F430, but lacks something in road feel and "sense of occassion". The E-gear does not compare to the F1 system in the Ferrari. Fit and finish and creature comforts are much better on the Lambo, but the Ferrari is a much better all around driver and the interior feels special although the bells and whistles are not there. The Gallardo would probably make for a better everyday driver, but I would not give up the SL55 for either as an everyday driver. Either own both or be happy with the SL. Just my two cents. My 997 Turbo bridges the gap nicely, but I like the SL55 better if cost is not factored in and will be selling it soon.
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Jeremy Clarkson tested the Gallardo spyder on Top Gear a year or two ago, in my favorite color combo. He loves the car, and seeing it driven to the max on their track is a lot of fun. There are a number of links on Youtube that you can find to watch the episode.
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The Gallardo is a nice car and fast but the SL65 has much better build quality in my opinion. An SL65 with a good tune and some small mods will give a Gallardo a run for it's money.
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Shouldn't the stock SL65 blow the Gallardo away in terms of acceleration? I raced a Gallardo with my modded CLK500 and I wasn't really all that impressed. I also saw an E55 with just pullies totally smoke a Gallardo.
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I myself would take an SL65 over a Gallardo any day. I would then save up for an F430 or Ford GT with twin turbos. Just my opinion.
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Love the Gallardo.....screw the F430 mark up. I would wait, drive the G and get the F-car later.The SL65 is the top dog and as much as I love it.... if I had to have one (and had other normal daily drivers etc.) I would take the Lambo. Also I have had a R230 for a while, so that has to be factored in.
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Love the Gallardo.....screw the F430 mark up. I would wait, drive the G and get the F-car later.The SL65 is the top dog and as much as I love it.... if I had to have one (and had other normal daily drivers etc.) I would take the Lambo. Also I have had a R230 for a while, so that has to be factored in.
Having a choice of Gallardo with a small discount vs 430 with $50k (or more)mark-up is no brainer....
Unless you can get one at MSRP.....
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Yeah one at msrp I would be all over but that is not going to happen. The g's seem to drop in value like the 65 which is pretty bad. I have seen a few g's in th high 120's and low 130's which is not as bad as the sl dropped but still why pay 180-200k new when you can get used for 50-70k less? Is the fact of being the first owner or knowing how it has been driven worth it, or is it for the short lived warranty or just to say you bought it new? What do you guys think? I must say the f cars hold value like no other.
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Yeah one at msrp I would be all over but that is not going to happen. The g's seem to drop in value like the 65 which is pretty bad. I have seen a few g's in th high 120's and low 130's which is not as bad as the sl dropped but still why pay 180-200k new when you can get used for 50-70k less? Is the fact of being the first owner or knowing how it has been driven worth it, or is it for the short lived warranty or just to say you bought it new? What do you guys think? I must say the f cars hold value like no other.
SL65 depreciation is a lot worse than the Gallardo. MSRP Gallardo's prices have been raised a lot since 2004. There have also been substantial improvements from 2004 to 2006+. 2004 Gallardos that were less brand new than 2005 SL65s still command more money than 2005 SL65s.
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You can put superchargers or Turbo's on a Gallardo also, don't forget that. Gemballa and Koenig do it.
Also, don't forget that Lamborghini will be upping the horsepower and updating the Gallardo soon, like maybe next year. I'm hearing 600 horsepower with other mild updates. That would make the zero to 60 MPH dash drop from 3.9 to 4.0 seconds down to mid 3's.
Also, don't forget that Lamborghini will be upping the horsepower and updating the Gallardo soon, like maybe next year. I'm hearing 600 horsepower with other mild updates. That would make the zero to 60 MPH dash drop from 3.9 to 4.0 seconds down to mid 3's.
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Most people I know who have one (as well as magazine reviews etc) tend to prefer the manual over the egear which can be a bit weird at times...
I drove a manual Gallardo (and a 550hp SL55...), and I know the Gallardo was definitely the better handling car. It was also really quick and overall great car to drive.
I think the 430's a much better looking vehicle tho'.
I drove a manual Gallardo (and a 550hp SL55...), and I know the Gallardo was definitely the better handling car. It was also really quick and overall great car to drive.
I think the 430's a much better looking vehicle tho'.