Scruffyone

Yup, true. My stock 997TT will pull ever so slightly on my SL55 K2, from a 40 mph roll to 140. Ran out of road at that point.
A bit ot but I put my GT3 RS up against an E55(both stock) from a 40 mph roll and we were close to even until around 120 or so when I started pulling slightly on him. His limiter shut him down around 155. I ran away from him after that but backed off at 175 because the RS just wanted to keep on going.

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Actually I just sold my 996tt complete with an autothority stage 2 mod, good for 535 horsepower, a Ferrari 360, a cadillac XLR-v and a modded Porsche Cayman S all in the past 2 years. Was the 996tt I had faster than my SL55? Yes !! Is a 997S faster ? Absolutely not. I have never ever ever heard of a stock 911S doing 3.9
I guess even though Porsche builds the cars they've never driven one cause here is what they say.



355 hp @ 6,600 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.6 s
Top Track Speed: 182 mph

$ 82,600.00

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Tell me you are not basing car data off of what wikipedia says !

TurboTuner

You should stop buying R&T if you don't believe me. Its on the back of the R&T magazine. And there was a feature on it several times about the 911 S going 0-60 in 3.9. Before you try and argue this go find out yourself. Go read it for yourself. Cheers. You think I made up a R&T specs on a 911 S? LOL

Some people are just too cocky about their cars, just because you paid more doesn't always mean your car is quicker. I have a SL55 and I will admit the 911 S is quicker, its just the truth.

TurboTuner

I even quoted which issue its in go find out if you don't believe me. I'm sure if your a real car guy you will have an issue of R&T somewhere. Just apologize when you find out I'm right.

TurboTuner

You owned a P car before and you quote their numbers? LOL Aren't they the ones that said the 911 Turbo runs mid to low 4s when many magazines have done much lower?? You should know better than go by P numbers.

TurboTuner

Read this if your too lazy to find out yourself. Direct from R&T.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....page_number=10

Engine/Valvetrain dohc 3.8L F-6
Transmission 6-speed manual
Layout rear engine/rear drive
Horsepower (SAE) 355 bhp @ 6600 rpm
Torque 295 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm
0-60 3.9 sec
Curb weight 3300 lb

AMG_55

+1

TurboTuner

Enjoy some more.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=8

At the test track, the Carrera S posted some awesome acceleration numbers: zero to 60 mph in 3.9 sec. and 12.3 to the quarter (we got a 4.4 and 12.8, respectively, in a previous test). These numbers were so extraordinary that we took the car to MD Automotive in Westminster, California, to measure the Carrera S’s output on the dynamometer. No steroid controversy here, the car came away clean. The only explanation for the difference in acceleration times is that this particular engine had a proper break-in period (it had 5400 miles on the odometer as opposed to the 1200 miles on our previous test car).

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To tell you the truth, I'd believe the manufacturer of a car before any magazine journalist. Saying a car is slower than it really is, isn't a very good selling point.

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I am the co-owner of a shop called the Speed shop in Easton, MA (mostly muscle car mods and rebuilding), We actually carry every car magazine imaginable in our retail section, so i've read most magazines for free and trust me, yoiu don't wanna believe everything you read in magazines.

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[QUOTE=TurboTuner;2203923]Enjoy some more.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=8

ewwwwwwww !! although the article wasn't all about speed, acceleration time aside, you dare show me an article where the 911S lost to a regular corvette that's why I say, don't believe everything you read in magazines. Bottom line to me, since none of us are getting a million dollar payday at the race track . I know if offered a 911S or a SL55 i'd take the SL55 any day. Now if yoiu offered 911TT I might have to think a little harder.

TurboTuner

My whole point is the 911 S is quicker in acceleration. I'm not saying its better than the SL55.

Vic55

I agree 100%. Mags test cars on closed tracks and you dont know how many times they tried before they got the best run in. Professional drivers do help mag times as well. We live in the real world where there is traffic, road conditions and that good old thing I like to call driver skill. IMO the 3.9 number was a strong driver hitting every shift point which wont happen in everyday climates. But what will happen in everyday climates is a simple driver mashing the SL55's throttle and putting up strong times. These are my thoughts on this discussion.

This may not apply here but remember when the e39 M5 came out and it put up better numbers than the W210 E55 per the mags in 0-60 and quarter mile tests. Well in the real world I owned both cars and if I had to line up against myself I would take the E55 9 times out of ten. While I am not a professional driver, I would like to think I am not entirely unskilled in shifting as well. These real world experiences have been validated by many members here on this site. I guess the same could go for the W211 E55 versus the new M5.

TurboTuner

Magazine times are done by professionals so they get the best numbers. Porsche's claims on 0-60mph is suppose to be numbers that anyone can obtain. No clutch drops, etc. So even still; a mild enthusiast shall still out accelerate a SL55 from a dig. On the freeway it would be a different outcome, favoring the SL55.

Addicted2Speed

TurboTuner is correct in saying that Carrera S and SL55 are very close in 0-60 and 1/4 mile, if the carrera is driven to 100% of its potential. A lot of magazines have gotten low 4-second 0-60 and mid 12's in the 1/4 mile from a bone stock S, there are 12.3 and 12.6 passes on dragtimes.com, which is in line with what SL55 can do. But like Vic said, to get these numbers out of a Carrera S, the driver would need to launch the car from high rpm's (bad for clutch) and shift perfectly every time. Don't underestimate the Carrera S, it can launch extremely hard with little or no wheelspin due to the rear engine pushing on the rear wheels.

P.S. Same thing happens with lotus elise. Although the car only has 190hp, C&D managed 4.4 seconds 0-60 time and 13.2 in the 1/4 mile. Like the Carrera S, it has over 60% of the weight in the back which helps launch without wheelspin. You can launch these cars at 6k+ rpm and still be OK with traction, which translates into awesome 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, but doesn't help you much from a roll. Another analogy is an E55 wagon, which is actually faster than E55 sedan due to the same reason.