SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Turbos vs. Supercharger
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make sure you take the picture infront of your mansion with yuor trophy wife in it, wouldnt want anyone to think you havent got the biggest dick on the forum!
incase anyone missed it, HE has a v12 with 2 turbos on it, the rest of us should just drive civics because our cars are just toys!
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it was a typo jackass
I missed that sorry? where's your SL55 12.6 @ 113.9 Slip
?Best I ever ran my heavily modded C6 Vette was 11.7x @ 119+mph was about (2) yrs ago in AZ w/crummy 1.9x 60' on 345 MP's
In regards to your HolyGrail of info:
0-60 being = in this test is easily chalked up to wheel spin in the SL600, then NOTE the timing from 60-120mph SL55 is slower by .4 tenths or (4) car lengths (drag racing rule of thumb (1) length per .10 tenth) that's ONLY timed from 60-120 mph, if timing was from 0-120 mph rest assured lengths would only increase in SL600 favor...
For sake of arguing, imagine this test took place on frwy from 60 mph, a bone stk SL600 will leave you by (4) lengths to 120mph, that's a solid beating in any book...
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let me use numbers that you have provided. you say the sl600 makes 40 more hp than the sl55. we all seem to agree the sl600 weighs 150 lbs more.
150 lbs is 1.5 tenths.
a tenth = 13hp is good rule of thumb.
so your 40 hp gets you 3 tenths, but the 150 lbs you haev to give back 1.5.
that makes the sl600. 1 to 1.tenths quicker in an optimal situation.
i have seen identical cars with 2 different drivers be half a second off at the same track at the same time. they arent all the same, not all drivers are the same. i have no problem saying the cars are almost identical, which is what i have been sayin the whole time.
there you go, facts, your facts. i just broke down the math for you.
150 lbs is 1.5 tenths.
a tenth = 13hp is good rule of thumb.
so your 40 hp gets you 3 tenths, but the 150 lbs you haev to give back 1.5.
that makes the sl600. 1 to 1.tenths quicker in an optimal situation.
i have seen identical cars with 2 different drivers be half a second off at the same track at the same time. they arent all the same, not all drivers are the same. i have no problem saying the cars are almost identical, which is what i have been sayin the whole time.
there you go, facts, your facts. i just broke down the math for you.
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im not gonna get involved in a ricker dispute...but saying you want to keep civilized then talk about how he cant kick your *** isnt fair bro. Thats a flat out threat...the ricker can get you fired up but dont take it to making lame internet tough guy threats.
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thts where it goes next, it starts with name calling and then someone potentialy gets their *** kicked when it shoudlnt get that far, im tryign to cut it off before it does. im not threatening anyone.
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You are truly special
re-read the posts clown, Jay posted the Hulk krap NOT me, you really should chk your simpleton additions to this threadRemember typing this on pg 3.
it was a typo jackass.
you got some sort of ***** size issue
you got some sort of ***** size issue
where's the 12.6 @ 113.9 slip liar?
i am posting hard facts.
Those in the know realize size has nothing to do w/fighting, it's all skill & exp...
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now i know you are a liar :
Best I ever ran my heavily modded C6 Vette was 11.7x @ 119+mph was about (2) yrs ago in AZ w/crummy 1.9x 60' on 345 MP's
to go 11.7 on a 1.9x 60 in a c6 needs AT LEAST 122mph trap speed to do it.
and you cant drive either cause bone stock c6's have gone 11.71 showroom stock on stock wheels
Best I ever ran my heavily modded C6 Vette was 11.7x @ 119+mph was about (2) yrs ago in AZ w/crummy 1.9x 60' on 345 MP's
to go 11.7 on a 1.9x 60 in a c6 needs AT LEAST 122mph trap speed to do it.
and you cant drive either cause bone stock c6's have gone 11.71 showroom stock on stock wheels
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let me use numbers that you have provided. you say the sl600 makes 40 more hp than the sl55. we all seem to agree the sl600 weighs 150 lbs more.
150 lbs is 1.5 tenths.
a tenth = 13hp is good rule of thumb.
so your 40 hp gets you 3 tenths, but the 150 lbs you haev to give back 1.5.
that makes the sl600. 1 to 1.tenths quicker in an optimal situation.
i have seen identical cars with 2 different drivers be half a second off at the same track at the same time. they arent all the same, not all drivers are the same. i have no problem saying the cars are almost identical, which is what i have been sayin the whole time.
there you go, facts, your facts. i just broke down the math for you.
150 lbs is 1.5 tenths.
a tenth = 13hp is good rule of thumb.
so your 40 hp gets you 3 tenths, but the 150 lbs you haev to give back 1.5.
that makes the sl600. 1 to 1.tenths quicker in an optimal situation.
i have seen identical cars with 2 different drivers be half a second off at the same track at the same time. they arent all the same, not all drivers are the same. i have no problem saying the cars are almost identical, which is what i have been sayin the whole time.
there you go, facts, your facts. i just broke down the math for you.
then we will get on to how full of **** your are with that bull**** c6 et and mph.
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now i know you are a liar :
Best I ever ran my heavily modded C6 Vette was 11.7x @ 119+mph was about (2) yrs ago in AZ w/crummy 1.9x 60' on 345 MP's
to go 11.7 on a 1.9x 60 in a c6 needs AT LEAST 122mph trap speed to do it.
and you cant drive either cause bone stock c6's have gone 11.71 showroom stock on stock wheels
Best I ever ran my heavily modded C6 Vette was 11.7x @ 119+mph was about (2) yrs ago in AZ w/crummy 1.9x 60' on 345 MP's
to go 11.7 on a 1.9x 60 in a c6 needs AT LEAST 122mph trap speed to do it.
and you cant drive either cause bone stock c6's have gone 11.71 showroom stock on stock wheels
This conversations officially retarded, you are the reigning MBW Village Idiot
Good night Cappy...P.S. Where's your fake time slip 12.6 @ 113.9??? P-chop ready yet
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you may be able to fool people on here into thinking that you know what you are talking about but, but not me.
shal we consult your favorite site dragtimes?
lets take a look here.
11.727* 118.050 7.540 93.740 1.734
hmm, thats a WAAYA BETTER 60 that yours.
11.756* 117.360 7.535 91.890 1.625
this dude had to be wheels up! but you did the same et going just 1.8 mph faster but 3 tenths slower to the 60?!?! i got it, you used magic.
11.783 117.950 7.470 95.880 1.767
seeing a pattern yet?
11.846 123.050 7.770 95.830 1.922
now look at this guy , he also is in a c6 btw.
he had a better 60 than you, or the same becaus we dont know fir sure because of your "X"
but i'll give you the benfit of the doubt.... so anyway, same 60, 4 more mph than you, but went a whole lot slower in et? how did that happen??
shal we consult your favorite site dragtimes?
lets take a look here.
11.727* 118.050 7.540 93.740 1.734
hmm, thats a WAAYA BETTER 60 that yours.
11.756* 117.360 7.535 91.890 1.625
this dude had to be wheels up! but you did the same et going just 1.8 mph faster but 3 tenths slower to the 60?!?! i got it, you used magic.
11.783 117.950 7.470 95.880 1.767
seeing a pattern yet?
11.846 123.050 7.770 95.830 1.922
now look at this guy , he also is in a c6 btw.
he had a better 60 than you, or the same becaus we dont know fir sure because of your "X"
but i'll give you the benfit of the doubt.... so anyway, same 60, 4 more mph than you, but went a whole lot slower in et? how did that happen??
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Are you O.K.??? I had a 2005 regular C6 6.0 liter Corvette heavily modded w/3.90 gears etc, stk they run 12.5 @ 112
This conversations officially retarded, you are the reigning MBW Village Idiot Good night Cappy...
P.S. Where's your fake time slip 12.6 @ 113.9??? P-chop ready yet
This conversations officially retarded, you are the reigning MBW Village Idiot
Good night Cappy...P.S. Where's your fake time slip 12.6 @ 113.9??? P-chop ready yet
ohh no, dont go anywhere, im not done proving you are full of it!
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let me use numbers that you have provided. you say the sl600 makes 40 more hp than the sl55. we all seem to agree the sl600 weighs 150 lbs more.
150 lbs is 1.5 tenths.
a tenth = 13hp is good rule of thumb.
so your 40 hp gets you 3 tenths, but the 150 lbs you haev to give back 1.5.
that makes the sl600. 1 to 1.tenths quicker in an optimal situation.
i have seen identical cars with 2 different drivers be half a second off at the same track at the same time. they arent all the same, not all drivers are the same. i have no problem saying the cars are almost identical, which is what i have been sayin the whole time.
there you go, facts, your facts. i just broke down the math for you.
150 lbs is 1.5 tenths.
a tenth = 13hp is good rule of thumb.
so your 40 hp gets you 3 tenths, but the 150 lbs you haev to give back 1.5.
that makes the sl600. 1 to 1.tenths quicker in an optimal situation.
i have seen identical cars with 2 different drivers be half a second off at the same track at the same time. they arent all the same, not all drivers are the same. i have no problem saying the cars are almost identical, which is what i have been sayin the whole time.
there you go, facts, your facts. i just broke down the math for you.
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When you get sick of bench racing, remember this...you're "rules of thumb" seem to not account for the torque these cars generate at a very low RPM...none of these cars are light, so that torque at 1500 rpm moving a 4500lb+ car makes a LOT more difference than the horsepower....but I'm sure a car god like you already knew that; but left it out of the argument because it didn't benefit you.
by your theory a diesel truck would smoke us all
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now i know you are a liar :
Best I ever ran my heavily modded C6 Vette was 11.7x @ 119+mph was about (2) yrs ago in AZ w/crummy 1.9x 60' on 345 MP's
to go 11.7 on a 1.9x 60 in a c6 needs AT LEAST 122mph trap speed to do it.
and you cant drive either cause bone stock c6's have gone 11.71 showroom stock on stock wheels
Best I ever ran my heavily modded C6 Vette was 11.7x @ 119+mph was about (2) yrs ago in AZ w/crummy 1.9x 60' on 345 MP's
to go 11.7 on a 1.9x 60 in a c6 needs AT LEAST 122mph trap speed to do it.
and you cant drive either cause bone stock c6's have gone 11.71 showroom stock on stock wheels
Again with you smoking crack. There has not been an LS2 Vette go 11.71 stock...unless you are saying that it beat your 12.6 run by .9, in which case I buy it cause both are bogus.
Also...you have no idea what you're talking about with the 'Vette. First, a 1.6x 60' in a C6 does not result in wheel lift. Second, lots of people forget that LSx's can be built to have power in different areas. Old setup on my Firebird went 11.85 @ 113 w/ a 1.62 60'; you really think with the power he had over me he could get into the 11.7s? Get real.
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So...when you "launch" your SL...it is at what rpm? PS, IF diesels didn't have flying barn aero and the weight they'd be contenders. There's a diesel in my town that ran 12.01 on the same day I ran my 12.29...so, it'd beat you, that's for sure.
Also, torque does not mean squat...where the hell did you get that definition? Torque is what can get a VERY heavy car rolling off the line and murder a car like...yours!
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Again with you smoking crack. There has not been an LS2 Vette go 11.71 stock...unless you are saying that it beat your 12.6 run by .9, in which case I buy it cause both are bogus.
Also...you have no idea what you're talking about with the 'Vette. First, a 1.6x 60' in a C6 does not result in wheel lift. Second, lots of people forget that LSx's can be built to have power in different areas. Old setup on my Firebird went 11.85 @ 113 w/ a 1.62 60'; you really think with the power he had over me he could get into the 11.7s? Get real.
Also...you have no idea what you're talking about with the 'Vette. First, a 1.6x 60' in a C6 does not result in wheel lift. Second, lots of people forget that LSx's can be built to have power in different areas. Old setup on my Firebird went 11.85 @ 113 w/ a 1.62 60'; you really think with the power he had over me he could get into the 11.7s? Get real.
the current LS2 RECORD for a bone stock car is 12.21 @115
and i was being a little sarcastic about the wheel lift
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ok, one know it allwho knows nothing about drag racing at a time.
formula, you need to learn some basic definitions before you talk about torque adn ho wit applies to acceleration and drag racing.
go read this, it eXplains it all PERFECTLY. Its a little long but its got alot of good info
http://www.4x4abc.com/jeep101/torque.html
formula, you need to learn some basic definitions before you talk about torque adn ho wit applies to acceleration and drag racing.
go read this, it eXplains it all PERFECTLY. Its a little long but its got alot of good info
http://www.4x4abc.com/jeep101/torque.html
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So...when you "launch" your SL...it was at what rpm? PS, IF diesels didn't have the flying barn aero and the weight they'd be contenders. There's a diesel in my town that ran 12.01 on the same day I ran my 12.29...so, it'd beat you, that's for sure.
Also, torque does not mean squat...where the hell did you get that definition? Torque is what can get a VERY heavy car rolling off the line and murder a car like...yours!
Also, torque does not mean squat...where the hell did you get that definition? Torque is what can get a VERY heavy car rolling off the line and murder a car like...yours!
http://www.4x4abc.com/jeep101/torque.html
here it is again incase you missed it.
you rich guys with all your fast cars, nobody ever took physics in college?
are you ALL lawyers and DR's?
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Your car sure is purdy though, that's for sure.
This is turning into a healthy debate, huh? Can't wait until I completely screw the pooch on 10/30 in my tuned SL600 and run like a 12.5 or something.
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im leaving work now and going to the drag strip, im there every wed and friday. please try to learn something while im gone
