SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: For kleemann fans. One in the nude!
03-07-2003, 04:09 PM
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Lucas,
Sorry.
Yes you are right of course!!
I took so many pics I got confused!!!
I'll make sure I don't accidently attribute the awfull workmanship on the FAB gullwing SL to anyone else!!!
Graham.
Sorry.
Yes you are right of course!!
I took so many pics I got confused!!!
I'll make sure I don't accidently attribute the awfull workmanship on the FAB gullwing SL to anyone else!!!
Graham.
03-07-2003, 05:52 PM
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The FAB Gullwing, is it still the white one he showed at the Tokyo
Auto salon in Jan. 03. ?????
Still no low henches in the doors, so they flap out in the bottum against the front wings ???
The FAB Gullwing, is it still the white one he showed at the Tokyo
Auto salon in Jan. 03. ?????
Still no low henches in the doors, so they flap out in the bottum against the front wings ???
03-08-2003, 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by vraa
I'm confused, whats the differences between the White SL i've seen with gullwing and the Black one i've seen?
I now know that one is Lorensir and one is Kleemann right?
I'm confused, whats the differences between the White SL i've seen with gullwing and the Black one i've seen?
I now know that one is Lorensir and one is Kleemann right?
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03-08-2003, 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by Mustard
London Lad, you're a wag
Stunning piece of engineering, nevertheless.....
London Lad, you're a wag
Stunning piece of engineering, nevertheless.....
Stunning piece of engineering ?????, you must be kidding !!!
I feel sorry for Kleemann that somebody confused their product with this crap from Lorinser. But on the other side I am quite sure the guys at Kleemann see it with a certain sense of humour and had themselves a good laugh. Stunning piece of engineering....my god.
An concerning the Gullwing doors I would only trust one company to do that job: Kleemann. I feel quite sure that FAB design never will put this into "production". The quality is just not good enough.
03-08-2003, 06:45 PM
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Guardlimo..
I think Mr. Rieseneck from FAB is very serious about putting his doors into "production", the FAB SL in Tokyo was white and sold to a Japanese customer, the car had to be air cargoed back to Schwitzerland to finish the doors after the show, the Geneva SL is a different car, so now there is at least two.
The FAB doors have a major design problem, the upper hinge is the original, just turned approx. 45 degree so the door opens up.
The major design problem is...... There is no lower hinge .....
Nothing holds the door in in the buttom, so the door simply flaps
out. The OE lower hinge is removed and the space used for the hydraulik cylinders which open and close the doors. ( see pic. from London Lad ).
I can see from the pic. that there is no design change since Tokyo, and in my oppinion those doors will never come close to a 100% function.
I think Mr. Rieseneck from FAB is very serious about putting his doors into "production", the FAB SL in Tokyo was white and sold to a Japanese customer, the car had to be air cargoed back to Schwitzerland to finish the doors after the show, the Geneva SL is a different car, so now there is at least two.
The FAB doors have a major design problem, the upper hinge is the original, just turned approx. 45 degree so the door opens up.
The major design problem is...... There is no lower hinge .....
Nothing holds the door in in the buttom, so the door simply flaps
out. The OE lower hinge is removed and the space used for the hydraulik cylinders which open and close the doors. ( see pic. from London Lad ).
I can see from the pic. that there is no design change since Tokyo, and in my oppinion those doors will never come close to a 100% function.
03-08-2003, 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Lucas
Guardlimo..
I think Mr. Rieseneck from FAB is very serious about putting his doors into "production", the FAB SL in Tokyo was white and sold to a Japanese customer, the car had to be air cargoed back to Schwitzerland to finish the doors after the show, the Geneva SL is a different car, so now there is at least two.
The FAB doors have a major design problem, the upper hinge is the original, just turned approx. 45 degree so the door opens up.
The major design problem is...... There is no lower hinge .....
Nothing holds the door in in the buttom, so the door simply flaps
out. The OE lower hinge is removed and the space used for the hydraulik cylinders which open and close the doors. ( see pic. from London Lad ).
I can see from the pic. that there is no design change since Tokyo, and in my oppinion those doors will never come close to a 100% function.
Guardlimo..
I think Mr. Rieseneck from FAB is very serious about putting his doors into "production", the FAB SL in Tokyo was white and sold to a Japanese customer, the car had to be air cargoed back to Schwitzerland to finish the doors after the show, the Geneva SL is a different car, so now there is at least two.
The FAB doors have a major design problem, the upper hinge is the original, just turned approx. 45 degree so the door opens up.
The major design problem is...... There is no lower hinge .....
Nothing holds the door in in the buttom, so the door simply flaps
out. The OE lower hinge is removed and the space used for the hydraulik cylinders which open and close the doors. ( see pic. from London Lad ).
I can see from the pic. that there is no design change since Tokyo, and in my oppinion those doors will never come close to a 100% function.
03-09-2003, 03:42 AM
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The weight is not the problem, the hydraulic cylinders will take care of that.
The problem is when the door is closed, then there is no lower hinge, the door is rotating only over the upper hinge and nothing is holding the door in place where the low hinge was suposed to be.
The problem is when the door is closed, then there is no lower hinge, the door is rotating only over the upper hinge and nothing is holding the door in place where the low hinge was suposed to be.
03-09-2003, 03:45 AM
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so someone.. maybe u tezta my man.. for the love of god.. please post those pics again cuz i can't seen to find the thread u started before...
so please post pic of the FAB gullwing and the kleemann gullwing
so please post pic of the FAB gullwing and the kleemann gullwing
03-09-2003, 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by pocholin
Vraa, thanks for those pics, wing doors look great!!!
Vraa, thanks for those pics, wing doors look great!!!
the doors do look great! cept i find very little real life use for the car in white, but the kleeman doors, if they go straight up, those i might consider.
