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SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: For kleemann fans. One in the nude!

Old Mar 7, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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For kleemann fans. One in the nude!

Seen at Geneva motor show


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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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London Lad, you're a wag

Stunning piece of engineering, nevertheless.....
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Thats a fantastic pcs. of engineering by Lorinser, I even think it will bring up the power by 30-40 HP.
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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Lucas,

Sorry.

Yes you are right of course!!

I took so many pics I got confused!!!

I'll make sure I don't accidently attribute the awfull workmanship on the FAB gullwing SL to anyone else!!!


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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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The FAB Gullwing, is it still the white one he showed at the Tokyo
Auto salon in Jan. 03. ?????

Still no low henches in the doors, so they flap out in the bottum against the front wings ???
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 12:59 AM
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I'm confused, whats the differences between the White SL i've seen with gullwing and the Black one i've seen?

I now know that one is Lorensir and one is Kleemann right?
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by vraa
I'm confused, whats the differences between the White SL i've seen with gullwing and the Black one i've seen?

I now know that one is Lorensir and one is Kleemann right?
One is FAB design and one is Kleemann, i think i posted some pics of the two in the OT section under the thread name "would ya hit that"
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:22 AM
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The 2 Gullwings at the Tokyo Autosalon, there was a black from Kleemann and a white from FAB, not Lorinser.
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:30 AM
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someone please post the pics again!!!
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:32 AM
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The FAB car I saw at Geneva was a light silver / blue. It looked good from a distance but when you got up close....UGH

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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:50 AM
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Stunning piece of engineering, nevertheless.....


Stunning piece of engineering ?????, you must be kidding !!!

I feel sorry for Kleemann that somebody confused their product with this crap from Lorinser. But on the other side I am quite sure the guys at Kleemann see it with a certain sense of humour and had themselves a good laugh. Stunning piece of engineering....my god.

An concerning the Gullwing doors I would only trust one company to do that job: Kleemann. I feel quite sure that FAB design never will put this into "production". The quality is just not good enough.
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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They are offering it at E20,000

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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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FAB that is. NOT K or L

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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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Judge for your self!

View of hinge 'workmanship'

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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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Are those scratches on the doors?!

Man, do you have any pics of Kleemann's? I really want to get my dad to do some kind of mod!
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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Guardlimo..

I think Mr. Rieseneck from FAB is very serious about putting his doors into "production", the FAB SL in Tokyo was white and sold to a Japanese customer, the car had to be air cargoed back to Schwitzerland to finish the doors after the show, the Geneva SL is a different car, so now there is at least two.

The FAB doors have a major design problem, the upper hinge is the original, just turned approx. 45 degree so the door opens up.
The major design problem is...... There is no lower hinge .....
Nothing holds the door in in the buttom, so the door simply flaps
out. The OE lower hinge is removed and the space used for the hydraulik cylinders which open and close the doors. ( see pic. from London Lad ).

I can see from the pic. that there is no design change since Tokyo, and in my oppinion those doors will never come close to a 100% function.
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Lucas
Guardlimo..

I think Mr. Rieseneck from FAB is very serious about putting his doors into "production", the FAB SL in Tokyo was white and sold to a Japanese customer, the car had to be air cargoed back to Schwitzerland to finish the doors after the show, the Geneva SL is a different car, so now there is at least two.

The FAB doors have a major design problem, the upper hinge is the original, just turned approx. 45 degree so the door opens up.
The major design problem is...... There is no lower hinge .....
Nothing holds the door in in the buttom, so the door simply flaps
out. The OE lower hinge is removed and the space used for the hydraulik cylinders which open and close the doors. ( see pic. from London Lad ).

I can see from the pic. that there is no design change since Tokyo, and in my oppinion those doors will never come close to a 100% function.
so does that mean the entire weight of the door is supported on one hinge? isn't that kinda stupid?
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 03:42 AM
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The weight is not the problem, the hydraulic cylinders will take care of that.
The problem is when the door is closed, then there is no lower hinge, the door is rotating only over the upper hinge and nothing is holding the door in place where the low hinge was suposed to be.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 03:45 AM
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so someone.. maybe u tezta my man.. for the love of god.. please post those pics again cuz i can't seen to find the thread u started before...
so please post pic of the FAB gullwing and the kleemann gullwing
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tango i got you covered.. i think .. hold on

i think i have them
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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by looking at the rims i think you can tell the bottom two are Kleemann while the top two are the other company
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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thanx for the cover vraa!!

they look nice i guess.... from the pic but duno hwo they look in person.... however i can be sure that they are pricey as hell!!
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Vraa, thanks for those pics, wing doors look great!!!
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Originally posted by pocholin
Vraa, thanks for those pics, wing doors look great!!!
no prob yall

the doors do look great! cept i find very little real life use for the car in white, but the kleeman doors, if they go straight up, those i might consider.
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