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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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12 pistons... You got more pistons on one caliper than 99% of the cars on their four brakes ... So good.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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Are those your old SL turbos? The stock ones?? somehow they look a lil bigger than the 600's
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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12 pistons... You got more pistons on one caliper than 99% of the cars on their four brakes ... So good.
number of pistons do not indicate stopping efficiency per se. Other factors such as caliper design, caliper bridge strength, rotor efficiency, piston size and clamping force are all factors that play a major role in brake system function. The number of pistons help mostly to increase pad surface area contacted to rotor and uniformity of the distributed clamping force. So for example an Alcon B-series caliper could possibly brake as well as a Stoptech ST-40 caliper or a similar Brembo 6, 8, or Rotora 12 piston caliper depending on the setup of the system, weight of the car, and related factors.

but yes they do look cool as heck!!!
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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Are those your old SL turbos? The stock ones?? somehow they look a lil bigger than the 600's
Those are Stock Borg-wagner K24 mounted on 600's & 65's (65's have slightly bigger kompressor and turbine wheels)
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Originally Posted by DCMETRO22Z
Those are Stock Borg-wagner K24 mounted on 600's & 65's (65's have slightly bigger kompressor and turbine wheels)
I know that part...., somehow the outer casting looks a little bigger on this one than stock. Thx
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
I know that part...., somehow the outer casting looks a little bigger on this one than stock. Thx
They look stock to me... Bigger would mean brabus, and I don't think Soulsearcher had it.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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That New manifold design will act like a header on an Atmo Engine. With the bigger turbo, I think You should have monstrous HP gain if everything is tuned properly.The Stock exhaust/turbo setup on MB V12TT engines is **** poor, like the cooling and intake. And although that, some people could achieve huge HP.

You car should produce 1000RWHP... I'm pretty sure.
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I might just be at the Texas Mile if he can get his car finished. March 26th-28th, correct?

Only 103 miles for me.. a nice cruise in my stock SL600.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 02:15 AM
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I'm glad someone finally took on a project like this. Ever since I frist saw the v12 biturbo manifold/turbo I knew the key to unleashing the power would be bigger turbos on a custom manifold. Are you going to try and tune through factory ECU? What size turbos are you going to go with? Good luck! Yea the V12 biturbo injectors are pretty small. You can try running 55k injectors, should drop in and provide roughly double the flow. If you wanna go baller you can get SLR injectors
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Great seeing the pics of the manifolds and turbos. I'd like to see the AMG 6.0 parts side by side! Anyone know if the manifolds look different than these 5.5L parts?

Anyway....I'll be at the Mile in my FGT...come by and say hi!

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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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Great seeing the pics of the manifolds and turbos. I'd like to see the AMG 6.0 parts side by side! Anyone know if the manifolds look different than these 5.5L parts?

Anyway....I'll be at the Mile in my FGT...come by and say hi!

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600 and 65 turbos have the same exterior look.The only differences are in the turbos internals.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DCMETRO22Z
600 and 65 turbos have the same exterior look.The only differences are in the turbos internals.
What about the manifolds?
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DoctorV8
What about the manifolds?
As I explained many times, In the MB V12TT engines, the turbo setup is very particular.

The exhaust gas manifold and the Turbine wheel housing are casted as one single piece.

So, the Manifold/housing block is the same on the 600 & 65.

That's why you can't simply swap turbos on those engines. You have to cast a band new exhaust manifiold to make your aftermarket turbo fit.

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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 67supersnake
I might just be at the Texas Mile if he can get his car finished. March 26th-28th, correct?

Only 103 miles for me.. a nice cruise in my stock SL600.
I am assuming that if u are coming, your plans are to spectate only since race registration has been closed for some time. Come by & say hi. We'll be with a bright red 27ft enclosed trailer. I think Marko is also a registered racer.

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I'm glad someone finally took on a project like this. Ever since I frist saw the v12 biturbo manifold/turbo I knew the key to unleashing the power would be bigger turbos on a custom manifold. Are you going to try and tune through factory ECU? What size turbos are you going to go with? Good luck! Yea the V12 biturbo injectors are pretty small. You can try running 55k injectors, should drop in and provide roughly double the flow. If you wanna go baller you can get SLR injectors
SLR/55k injector flow specs are not published...you may or may not be correct but based on some formulas, u are probably correct.... Yes we are using the oem ecu, there is no need to install a stand-alone or even a piggy-back race fuel management system, additionally, for obvious reasons you really can not go that route on these cars.

Originally Posted by DoctorV8
Great seeing the pics of the manifolds and turbos. I'd like to see the AMG 6.0 parts side by side! Anyone know if the manifolds look different than these 5.5L parts?

The housing and the turbine wheels size are the same but I believe the compressor wheels are k20/24s on the 65

Anyway....I'll be at the Mile in my FGT...come by and say hi!


Regards,

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Sounds good. Its easier for you to find us since we'll be the only R230 and as you know, they'll be at least 13 FGTs. Is yours the white 05?
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by soulsearcher
SLR/55k injector flow specs are not published...you may or may not be correct but based on some formulas, u are probably correct.... Yes we are using the oem ecu, there is no need to install a stand-alone or even a piggy-back race fuel management system, additionally, for obvious reasons you really can not go that route on these cars.
You don't have to take my advice but I've had both the 55k and SLR injectors flow tested (I posted the numbers somewhere). I'm aware that the SLR specs are not published and I actually have a set on my car. Cool, who is going to be doing the tuning?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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Those bad boys ought to be able to rearrange your organs when you stomp on em. Wear a kidney belt.
You're damn right... 12 cylinders, 12 pistons ...
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