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Old 02-23-2010, 06:30 PM
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For those that run a 20X11 with 305/25 rear tire

This is a very common setup for the R230 and I have the same setup. However, my rear tire sticks past the fender ever so slightly. I'd venture to say 3-5mm or so. I'm trying to determine if this is just the way it is with this particular setup or did my wheel company get the offset wrong. On my W211, I can run the car dumped with the rear tire literally tucked inside the fender and it not rub. However, if I were to lower my SL600 more, I think I'd have some rubbing on the outer edge of the tire.

Anyone else?

Let's only compare apples to apples. Not interested in people with 19" wheels or 10.5" wide rears, or 295 tires. Only the exact setup that I listed.
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Mine rubbed a little while lowered and going over bumps. After rolling the fenders (slightly) the rubbing decreased.
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no rub at all when using the 360 wheels. Rear are also 20X11 with 305 tires.
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just a question, but does it not look better if you do a tire strech on the rim and lower it with it sticking out just a bit?? I think it looks great.
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Originally Posted by soulsearcher
Mine rubbed a little while lowered and going over bumps. After rolling the fenders (slightly) the rubbing decreased.
You're ok with decreased rubbing, but rubbing nonetheless? It would drive me bonkers. My stuff has to be perfect for me to be satisfied. Especially since I got custom made wheels.

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no rub at all when using the 360 wheels. Rear are also 20X11 with 305 tires.
Good to know, thanks.

Originally Posted by kamilclk430
just a question, but does it not look better if you do a tire strech on the rim and lower it with it sticking out just a bit?? I think it looks great.
This is a matter of taste. I know this is a very popular look, but I'm not sure if it's for me. I love the stance of your car, currently. Your rears are just about tucked. Looks nice and tight back there.
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the shape of the side wall of tires varies from manufacture to manufacture, even though the size may be the same the side wall may look like it bulges differently.
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the shape of the side wall of tires varies from manufacture to manufacture, even though the size may be the same the side wall may look like it bulges differently.
Agreed. I'll post some pics when I get a chance. I'm running the ContisportContact 3's. They don't bulge past the lip of the wheel much, if any. It really looks as if the lip of the wheel is exactly even with the edge of the fender, instead of a few mm's inside of it.
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mine dont sick out at all, and never ever rub, no matter how low i go.
https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...-lowering.html

you can see here
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Originally Posted by GFEAR
mine dont sick out at all, and never ever rub, no matter how low i go.
https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...-lowering.html

you can see here
Did I read in that thread that you had to grind your calipers for wheel clearance?
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Did I read in that thread that you had to grind your calipers for wheel clearance?
absolutely not, no spacers, no grinding, i wouldnt stand for either
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
so you are calling me a liar now, the front calipers were ground when i got the car, when i put my new wheels on i saw it, but i did not have to grind anything on my car to make them fit.

and the rear is where they rub on these cars
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mine rub
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Originally Posted by GFEAR
so you are calling me a liar now, the front calipers were ground when i got the car, when i put my new wheels on i saw it, but i did not have to grind anything on my car to make them fit.

and the rear is where they rub on these cars
Wow man, chill out. I simply read that your calipers were ground and it was unclear in that post what the specifics were. Nobody called anyone a liar. Instead of insinuating that I was calling you a liar, you could've just clarified that, while they are shaved down, it was not done by you. Drink a beer man.

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Excuse the filthy car and the cell phone pics. I snapped these as I was walking out the door to go to work. As you can see, it's not that they stick way out past the fender much, it's only a few mm.



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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Wow man, chill out. I simply read that your calipers were ground and it was unclear in that post what the specifics were. Nobody called anyone a liar. Instead of insinuating that I was calling you a liar, you could've just clarified that, while they are shaved down, it was not done by you. Drink a beer man.
I am chill man, i was just kidding, but it doesnt come across on the interweb that well sometimes, i knew what you meant. they had minor trimming/grinding on them,which i thought was weird because it had stock wheels on it and the wheel clearance issues on these cars is usually in the back.

i knew when i ordered my wheels that for the money i was spending, i did not want to have to run spacers and did not want to grind anything, wheels that cost as much and yours and mine should fit perfectly with none of that. the only thing i can think of is the wheel centers dont curve around the rear calipers enough that the only way to keep them from hitting is to space it out a hair. do you have a close up of the wheel on the back where you can see the brake clearance.

this is why they make some wheels in 11 wide and some on 10.5, its all about the rear spoke shape
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boy they got dirty fast! winter will do that to ya
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Originally Posted by GFEAR
I am chill man, i was just kidding, but it doesnt come across on the interweb that well sometimes, i knew what you meant. they had minor trimming/grinding on them,which i thought was weird because it had stock wheels on it and the wheel clearance issues on these cars is usually in the back.

i knew when i ordered my wheels that for the money i was spending, i did not want to have to run spacers and did not want to grind anything, wheels that cost as much and yours and mine should fit perfectly with none of that. the only thing i can think of is the wheel centers dont curve around the rear calipers enough that the only way to keep them from hitting is to space it out a hair. do you have a close up of the wheel on the back where you can see the brake clearance.

this is why they make some wheels in 11 wide and some on 10.5, its all about the rear spoke shape
Yeah, tone doesn't come across too well.

So, back to mine. I'll try to get some close up pics tonight, with a proper camera. After thinking about it and looking at the pics, I'm wondering if once I lower it a little more the camber will take care of it. I mean, it really is only a few mm's, at the most. I'm just ****. The car is lowered with SDS, but the rear isn't very low at all. I have a funny feeling that once I bring the rear down flush with the tire, the negative camber will force it to clear.



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boy they got dirty fast! winter will do that to ya
That was from the drive home from the dealer after install. Salt covered roads and rain on top of that makes for a hot mess.
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I run a 305/25 Pirelli PZero and I do not rub.

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I run a 305/25 Pirelli PZero and I do not rub.

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Marcus, do you happen to have a
pic or two showing the wheel and fender association, like what I've shown above?
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EVERYONE'S TIRE IS DIFFERENT, I HAVE 295'S THAT ARE WIDER THAN 305S IT CHANGED FROM BRAND TO BRAND
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Clayton honestly man it doesn't look like an issue at all...when you lower a car you get negative camber gain...should you choose to further lower it with links or module they should tuck perfectly with camber gain...I think it's where you want it to be now. I don't think you will have a rubbing issue.
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Clayton honestly man it doesn't look like an issue at all...when you lower a car you get negative camber gain...should you choose to further lower it with links or module they should tuck perfectly with camber gain...I think it's where you want it to be now. I don't think you will have a rubbing issue.
I think you're right. After looking at a bazillion members cars with my same setup, my fitment appears right in line with everyone else. I'll get her lowered a bit more so we can see what's what.
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Originally Posted by Sunir
Clayton honestly man it doesn't look like an issue at all...when you lower a car you get negative camber gain...should you choose to further lower it with links or module they should tuck perfectly with camber gain...I think it's where you want it to be now. I don't think you will have a rubbing issue.
+1...I just looked at my rear and it looks just like yours Clayton (w/some negative camber)...no rubbing at the current Kleeman ELM setting.
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+1...I just looked at my rear and it looks just like yours Clayton (w/some negative camber)...no rubbing at the current Kleeman ELM setting.
Yep, yours was one of the ones that I was looking at. Also, the D2 Forged white SL55. That thing is so hot.

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