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Old 09-07-2003, 03:45 PM
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Brabus SV12 Vs RUF R turbo

I have an old friend who is receiving his SV12 in january, there is a modicum of competitiveness between us, he says he'll toast me, I say he aint got a chance,

any ideas folks? You guys are the experts, Im really talking standing start acceleration, autobahn stomping foot down at 120mph that kind of thing, round a track is a no brainer though...

all the best
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i have no clue, i would still think you would win though. you have some pics of your car?????

how much did you pay
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My advice to your friend: "You better not show up, you'll be trashed". Its that pure & simple
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Thanks for the replies, heres a pic:


Here is a link:


http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...threadid=30489


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I dont know...it'll be close.

he does have 757lb ft of torque and 640hp

If possible could you video tape this race?

both are exceptional cars so even id like to find out who wins
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Of course! Pics and video will be posted here dont worry

all the best
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haha...Hey Adam welcome aboard....

It'll be close on paper but the weight and four wheel drive will give the Ruf an advantage, but it'll be close.
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I guiess we'll have to wait and see. I would assume that the Ruf R Turbo would have a slight advantage; that is if you are very comfortable with driving the Porsche. Your dad is a very lucky man. I read your great writeup on the M5 board. I can truly sense the passion that you have for cars.
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Welcome Adam!
I hope you enjoy your stay over here.


Ok, dumb question, what's the brabus SV12? II'm assuming it's a Brabus tuned SL55 with a v12 since we are in the SL55 board...witch V12 is it tho?
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Thanks for the kind words guys!

Klint- Where on earth did you go?!

Schnelles- Thank you very much,

The SV12 is based on the sl65 (i think) im sorry im not too sure im not a mb guy

all the best
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Originally posted by AdamT
Thanks for the kind words guys!

Klint- Where on earth did you go?!

all the best
adam
I got the boot from bmwm5.com. It's long and complicated but to cut the story short I told Gustav that I thought he wasn't politically correct (two faced, selective, liberal schmuck etc).

Gustav is seriously opinionated when he should be judgemntal with the position he has but that's not the point...

It's a great community there, thanks to yourself and many of the boards frequent posters and loyal fans. I still tune in every day to see what's new and that video of yours, of the RUF doing a 0-190mph sprint is great...extremely fast vehicle your 'old man' has...

Did you ever come over this summer? have any plans to...?

P.S Send me a pm with your msn hotmail address and I'll add you to my buddy list...

Take Care
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Originally posted by AdamT

The SV12 is based on the sl65 (i think) im sorry im not too sure im not a mb guy

all the best
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Here's some basic details about the vehicle...Brabus really make a SL600 into a SL65 beater/competitor. (and for a cheaper price)

I think last month's EVo magazine had an article on it...
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Ok, a little explanation.

the SL SV 12 is based on the Sl600. the engine is now 6.3L and produces 640 HP with 1026 NM.
the accelerations number are the following:
4.3s for 0-100km/h
13s for 0-200Km/h
Vmax=310 Km/h

So you have some chance with your Ruf, but you haveto take a good start, otherwise it's over.
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Is it just me or should a twin turbo V12 make much more power than 640hp/762torque??? I think this has been discussed before, but it sounds like that engine is detuned so as to not sacrifice the other parts in the car. If the Brabus is tuned to more, then either he might beat the RUF or blow up. One thing the Brabus website fails to mention besides "nothing beats displacement except more dispacement" is that nothing beats less weight except less weight. How much does the RUF weigh?

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2005 SL600, 2011 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite
Ruf Rturbo

according to Road and Track early '02:

curb weight is 3375 lbs

test weight 3550 lbs

0-60 mph in 3.8 sec

0-100 mph in 8.1 sec

1/4 mile in 11.9 sec @ 122.7

520 bhp @ 6000 rpm

546 lb-ft @4800 rpm

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Originally posted by AdamT
Of course! Pics and video will be posted here dont worry

all the best
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I belive you have a little chance, I want to see the video when this is done.
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Originally posted by JackStraw
Ruf Rturbo

according to Road and Track early '02:

curb weight is 3375 lbs

test weight 3550 lbs

0-60 mph in 3.8 sec

0-100 mph in 8.1 sec

1/4 mile in 11.9 sec @ 122.7

520 bhp @ 6000 rpm

546 lb-ft @4800 rpm
We are developing in the region of 560+ bhp and have 600 torque, we also have 4WD so the starts wont be a problem, and i will definetley be getting lots of videos

RUF offer different engine treatments, we got the one with the most torque and the second highest bhp.

all the best
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both incredible cars. should be an awesome race. please keep us updated with pics, storeis, and video would be awesome. thanks!
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Wow! Excellent video! Umm, Adam, have you ever broken all four wheels loose? With soooo much torque, i bet you only have to rev it up to 3500RPM.
P.S. Was that you driving?
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maybe this will help?

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Yep that was me driving

all the best
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Smile should get the limit increased to 207mph...

Brabus now offers the SL V12 with a 207mph top speed. Probably special tyres etc..

I'd like to watch the race again with these mods done!
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Not a case of top speed, but rather acceleration. When Brabus make the SV12, they modify just the engine to make it produce 640hp, the gearing is kept the same. The standard SL600 gearing will take you to 208mph.

Changing the final axle ratio to gear the car to 200mph only will make it accelerate a lot faster, and also an extra two egars wouldn't go amiss either.

As always, the race has proven you can't have 700hp in a two ton car and expect lighter and jsut as powerful cars to be taken on easily.
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Hey Adam, do you have any more videos of your RUF?
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Re: should get the limit increased to 207mph...

Originally posted by GMW
Brabus now offers the SL V12 with a 207mph top speed. Probably special tyres etc..

I'd like to watch the race again with these mods done!
It would still be the same result

I have another video with the R turbo and the CTR,

http://ruf.kaptur.net/RUFs.mpg

all the best
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