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2013 R231 SL63 with AMG Performance Suspension question...
I am looking at a new 2013 SL63 and it has a 1500 dollar special order add for "AMG Performance Suspension". The cars I have test driven all have the standard AMG ABC set up.
JumpinJim (member here) explained its a 30% stiffer suspension set up (thanks again Jim) than that of the normal 2013 SL63 but I was wondering if anyone here has the exact definition of this option and what mechanical changes it entails (option code 486). I cant find it on the mbusa site because you can only build a 2014 now and its not an option.
Does anyone here know? Thanks in advance.
JumpinJim (member here) explained its a 30% stiffer suspension set up (thanks again Jim) than that of the normal 2013 SL63 but I was wondering if anyone here has the exact definition of this option and what mechanical changes it entails (option code 486). I cant find it on the mbusa site because you can only build a 2014 now and its not an option.
Does anyone here know? Thanks in advance.
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That seems like a weird option with ABC, do you think it's just in programming or do you think it's actual different hardware?
Maybe that's something that you can heavily negotiate into the price now that it's on a left-over 2013.
Maybe that's something that you can heavily negotiate into the price now that it's on a left-over 2013.
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http://www.nacoutlet.com/specs-and-p...13-351394.html
SPECIAL ORDER OPTIONS
SPC
Special Order Option Charge
486
AMG Performance Suspension
http://www.nacoutlet.com/specs-and-p...13-351394.html
SPECIAL ORDER OPTIONS
SPC
Special Order Option Charge
486
AMG Performance Suspension
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http://www.nacoutlet.com/specs-and-p...13-351394.html
SPECIAL ORDER OPTIONS
SPC
Special Order Option Charge
486
AMG Performance Suspension
http://www.nacoutlet.com/specs-and-p...13-351394.html
SPECIAL ORDER OPTIONS
SPC
Special Order Option Charge
486
AMG Performance Suspension
Thank you but I have this info (see my og post)... Im trying to find out what it really entails...
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On my 2013 SL63 you can adjust the suspension, I don't like it too stiff
so I leave it standard . It holds the road better than the old SL even on
standard settings. The performance pack I was told was an increase in power
and a slightly lower ( 10mm ) ride height, there was no mention of stiffness.
so I leave it standard . It holds the road better than the old SL even on
standard settings. The performance pack I was told was an increase in power
and a slightly lower ( 10mm ) ride height, there was no mention of stiffness.
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On my 2013 SL63 you can adjust the suspension, I don't like it too stiff
so I leave it standard . It holds the road better than the old SL even on
standard settings. The performance pack I was told was an increase in power
and a slightly lower ( 10mm ) ride height, there was no mention of stiffness.
so I leave it standard . It holds the road better than the old SL even on
standard settings. The performance pack I was told was an increase in power
and a slightly lower ( 10mm ) ride height, there was no mention of stiffness.
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If they would just offer the SL65 Black suspension as an option, I feel more would choose to get rid of the ABC. It's great when it works but not the best for dependability.
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I am looking at a new 2013 SL63 and it has a 1500 dollar special order add for "AMG Performance Suspension". The cars I have test driven all have the standard AMG ABC set up.
JumpinJim (member here) explained its a 30% stiffer suspension set up (thanks again Jim) than that of the normal 2013 SL63 but I was wondering if anyone here has the exact definition of this option and what mechanical changes it entails (option code 486). I cant find it on the mbusa site because you can only build a 2014 now and its not an option.
Does anyone here know? Thanks in advance.
JumpinJim (member here) explained its a 30% stiffer suspension set up (thanks again Jim) than that of the normal 2013 SL63 but I was wondering if anyone here has the exact definition of this option and what mechanical changes it entails (option code 486). I cant find it on the mbusa site because you can only build a 2014 now and its not an option.
Does anyone here know? Thanks in advance.
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on a side note: I drove 2 SL63's in a row for 30 minutes each on the same roads and highway. One had the Perf Suspension and one was the normal ABC AMG one. It was very clear how little body roll and how taut the perf suspension gives vs the normal one. The sharp turns yeilded a very neutral level experience with the Perf Suspension car. On higher speed roads where there were undulations the compression and rebound was much tighter and limited in travel vs the normal ABC. Now the comfort was not as good but on any normally paved, well maintained roads Id take the Perf Suspension over the normal ABC. (all my driving was with the shock light on or sport mode)
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I have the performance suspension on my '13 and I too would like to hear if you find out what the tech specs are on it. I believe it is a stiffer overall setup, springs/dampers and also found it to be much better than the standard suspension after a test drive.
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"I am looking at a new 2013 SL63 and it has a 1500 dollar special order add for "AMG Performance Suspension". The cars I have test driven all have the standard AMG ABC set up. I was wondering if anyone here has the exact definition of this option and what mechanical changes it entails (option code 486). I cant find it on the mbusa site because you can only build a 2014 now and its not an option.
thank you"
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"in a nutshell the 486 AMG Performance Suspension is stiffer with a more track/performance orientation to the software tune of the Adaptive/ABC aspects...there are also hard parts differences as the springs and shocks are different part numbers..."
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"I am looking at a new 2013 SL63 and it has a 1500 dollar special order add for "AMG Performance Suspension". The cars I have test driven all have the standard AMG ABC set up. I was wondering if anyone here has the exact definition of this option and what mechanical changes it entails (option code 486). I cant find it on the mbusa site because you can only build a 2014 now and its not an option.
thank you"
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"in a nutshell the 486 AMG Performance Suspension is stiffer with a more track/performance orientation to the software tune of the Adaptive/ABC aspects...there are also hard parts differences as the springs and shocks are different part numbers..."
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"I am looking at a new 2013 SL63 and it has a 1500 dollar special order add for "AMG Performance Suspension". The cars I have test driven all have the standard AMG ABC set up. I was wondering if anyone here has the exact definition of this option and what mechanical changes it entails (option code 486). I cant find it on the mbusa site because you can only build a 2014 now and its not an option.
thank you"
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"in a nutshell the 486 AMG Performance Suspension is stiffer with a more track/performance orientation to the software tune of the Adaptive/ABC aspects...there are also hard parts differences as the springs and shocks are different part numbers..."
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"I am looking at a new 2013 SL63 and it has a 1500 dollar special order add for "AMG Performance Suspension". The cars I have test driven all have the standard AMG ABC set up. I was wondering if anyone here has the exact definition of this option and what mechanical changes it entails (option code 486). I cant find it on the mbusa site because you can only build a 2014 now and its not an option.
thank you"
RESPONSE
"in a nutshell the 486 AMG Performance Suspension is stiffer with a more track/performance orientation to the software tune of the Adaptive/ABC aspects...there are also hard parts differences as the springs and shocks are different part numbers..."
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I love the ABC with the performance suspension special order. The neutrality of the car is amazing especially with it weighing in at 4k lbs and pushing it at 120mph in high speed bends.
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No, Im saying the exact opposite... the quote I was referring to is below:
and I said its ON the 13 and 14
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the ABC system was discontinoued for the new SL generartion R231..??
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I found this on MB site:
Active Body Control also available as performance suspension
As an option, the AMG performance suspension is also available for the SL 63 AMG from the AMG Performance Studio. Damper characteristics can be made stiffer by up to 30 percent in both modes. This provides for even less body movement and is recommended when striving for high-speed laps on a closed-off racing circuit, for example. Another notable feature of Active Body Control is the variable roll moment distribution between the front and rear axles, which the system carries out automatically according to the driving situation and speed. The computer uses various acceleration sensors to obtain information on the current driving situation and compares this data with those from the pressure sensors in the spring struts and the level sensors on the control arms. The system then computes the control signals that the servo-hydraulic valves at the front and rear axle transform into precisely metered flows of oil. In addition, the SL 63 AMG is fitted with hydraulic all-round self-leveling which helps to ensure a constant vehicle level irrespective of the load being carried.
Active Body Control also available as performance suspension
As an option, the AMG performance suspension is also available for the SL 63 AMG from the AMG Performance Studio. Damper characteristics can be made stiffer by up to 30 percent in both modes. This provides for even less body movement and is recommended when striving for high-speed laps on a closed-off racing circuit, for example. Another notable feature of Active Body Control is the variable roll moment distribution between the front and rear axles, which the system carries out automatically according to the driving situation and speed. The computer uses various acceleration sensors to obtain information on the current driving situation and compares this data with those from the pressure sensors in the spring struts and the level sensors on the control arms. The system then computes the control signals that the servo-hydraulic valves at the front and rear axle transform into precisely metered flows of oil. In addition, the SL 63 AMG is fitted with hydraulic all-round self-leveling which helps to ensure a constant vehicle level irrespective of the load being carried.