SL65 Black Series Conversion

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Mar 5, 2014 | 06:32 PM
  #1  
With most of my performance mods done and with just left four left to go:

Quad Top Mount Inter cooler (In Progress)
Bored 82 MM TB (In Progress, I know it may be little to none in gains but I got this spare TB for a cheap price off a forum member and I'm at the point where I'm squeezing HP until I mod the Turbos)
Renntech Toe Links (Getting Ready to Purchase)
Rear Trunk Tank (Shopping Around)

I'm looking for a good black series style kit for my SL65, here's what I came up with so far

Sarona (Way to expensive last time I was in NY I was a there shop they wanted 40k to provide the kit and install)

Misha Design (I like the kit and on the fence but only thing I would change is the make the hood like the vented style on the Black Series)

Prior Design (They want 20k for a kit not as bad as Sarona but still)

SGA Exclusive (German Company Sell the kit for 5 grand not including headlights, tips or grill but has a lot of positive ebay reviews but still it's in Germany)

FX Design Cars (Looks kinda shady but did a google search and saw people getting there kits, even for pricey Lamborghini body kits and the question was asked on the forums about the company and turns out there legit. 5 grand for kit, 7 grand for kit and hardware and they have a distributor in Chicago)

AXIOM-one (32 grand for prob the most ricer version of the black series kit and def not buying it)

Aero Function (Very known company kit goes for 10 grand)

Out of all the kits I'm leaning towards Misha, Aero, or FX so if anyone has review on any of these companies or companies I didn't mention please let me know as I want to purchase this kit in the next week or two. Also if anyone is curious I'm selling my Carlsson 1/16 Ultra Light 19 Inch Rims as these wont kit my car anymore due to the wider body. The Link is below

https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...s-19-inch.html

Also be on the look out if you need SL65 parts as I will be selling those too as the build begins
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Mar 6, 2014 | 12:54 AM
  #2  
I would have to give the Prior guys my vote. Good luck ever contacting SGA, they never respond, Sarona price is for **** and Misha design is just to over the top for me, making resale that much harder down the track. Never head of the other guys
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Mar 6, 2014 | 03:58 PM
  #3  
Quote: With most of my performance mods done and with just left four left to go:

Quad Top Mount Inter cooler (In Progress)
Bored 82 MM TB (In Progress, I know it may be little to none in gains but I got this spare TB for a cheap price off a forum member and I'm at the point where I'm squeezing HP until I mod the Turbos)
Renntech Toe Links (Getting Ready to Purchase)
Rear Trunk Tank (Shopping Around)

I'm looking for a good black series style kit for my SL65, here's what I came up with so far

Sarona (Way to expensive last time I was in NY I was a there shop they wanted 40k to provide the kit and install)

Misha Design (I like the kit and on the fence but only thing I would change is the make the hood like the vented style on the Black Series)

Prior Design (They want 20k for a kit not as bad as Sarona but still)

SGA Exclusive (German Company Sell the kit for 5 grand not including headlights, tips or grill but has a lot of positive ebay reviews but still it's in Germany)

FX Design Cars (Looks kinda shady but did a google search and saw people getting there kits, even for pricey Lamborghini body kits and the question was asked on the forums about the company and turns out there legit. 5 grand for kit, 7 grand for kit and hardware and they have a distributor in Chicago)

AXIOM-one (32 grand for prob the most ricer version of the black series kit and def not buying it)

Aero Function (Very known company kit goes for 10 grand)

Out of all the kits I'm leaning towards Misha, Aero, or FX so if anyone has review on any of these companies or companies I didn't mention please let me know as I want to purchase this kit in the next week or two. Also if anyone is curious I'm selling my Carlsson 1/16 Ultra Light 19 Inch Rims as these wont kit my car anymore due to the wider body. The Link is below

https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...s-19-inch.html

Also be on the look out if you need SL65 parts as I will be selling those too as the build begins
My vote is also for Prior design… It's 95% identical with Black series….I have it at my car also.
If I remember right Thericker is gone sell his Mischa from his car…. I'm not 100% sure… you can ask him.
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Mar 6, 2014 | 08:43 PM
  #4  
Is the prior kit still 20 grand?
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Mar 7, 2014 | 12:03 AM
  #5  
Quote: Is the prior kit still 20 grand?
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I paid only (if I remember right approx.3500 Eur for the kitt). I bought it from Ebay.+ head lamps and another mercedes OEM small stuffs…. so al together it was approx. 7000-8000 Eur. + paint jobb and rear fender instal. (I install everything my self except the rear fenders).

here is my thread. :
https://mbworld.org/forums/sl-class-...y-project.html

Good luck…
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Mar 7, 2014 | 09:15 PM
  #6  
3500 euros is about 5000 USD. Which is def. would pay, Headlight, grill, tips is prob another 2-3 grand so that's def. what I would be willing to pay. I called up FX in IL today and they will be emailing my pics of the kit as well as cars the kit that was installed on previous cars. They told me the install isn't that bad the tricky part is just the rear fenders.
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Mar 8, 2014 | 08:10 AM
  #7  
Quote: 3500 euros is about 5000 USD. Which is def. would pay, Headlight, grill, tips is prob another 2-3 grand so that's def. what I would be willing to pay. I called up FX in IL today and they will be emailing my pics of the kit as well as cars the kit that was installed on previous cars. They told me the install isn't that bad the tricky part is just the rear fenders.
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Yes that is my opinion to…… The biggest problem is to start the work .
Do it yourself... you do it faster and better than the paint shops …. and let the paint shop do the rear fenders at the same time they paint the car…. you save lot of many at the mean time also.
Good luck...
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Mar 8, 2014 | 09:21 AM
  #8  
Check this guy out,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181029611857...84.m1423.l2649
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Mar 8, 2014 | 03:58 PM
  #9  
Yes... This is the kit I'd buy if I did it again.. Though I'd add the Misha hood
Quote: Check this guy out,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181029611857...84.m1423.l2649
To add some needed flavor..

Big dif from Prior kit for those w/keen eye, the Priors front fender flairs are super narrow vs ALL the other kits by a very noticable 2"-3" per side.. This V6 kit is as close to real deal as it gets.. Sammy the owners a kool kat too
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Mar 8, 2014 | 05:30 PM
  #10  
The SPDV6 kit is what made me start looking for an SL. That kit makes the SL one of the best looking cars around.
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Mar 9, 2014 | 09:42 PM
  #11  
I gotta agree with others on this forum...v12tt and I are on the same page.

I don't mind dropping 15-17k for kit/electronic/body work/paint...

But I looked at all his mfg and I am from Chicago and I met the guy that sells the fx kits. He has a shop he works out of. He seems legit. ..but I kinda need the whole office set up; 800 numbers; full scale shop setup.

Spdv6 seems to be the best looking imho...but also I have talked to Sammy via sms though his ebay link but he does not seem to have a shop.

My fear is the mom/pop fly-by-night setup and with no support afterwards. Kinda makes me wonder..should I pay more and have confidence in the kit and the mfg...or pay less cause the body shop/paint will probably go up.
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Mar 17, 2014 | 08:07 AM
  #12  
Hi there I can supply the bodykits, we are based in the uk, they are currently on a deal for £2750, if you are interested then please drop me an email
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Mar 17, 2014 | 10:52 AM
  #13  
Can anyone tell me what material they make the wide body from.
I hope it's not fibre glass, to get a metal finish it needs to be GRP I think.
What make is the best, and do they make them for 230 and 231.
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Mar 22, 2014 | 11:31 AM
  #14  
Quote: Can anyone tell me what material they make the wide body from.
I hope it's not fibre glass, to get a metal finish it needs to be GRP I think.
What make is the best, and do they make them for 230 and 231.
Good question because I have been inquiring on other forums too a few months ago and it seems there is a wet set up process and a dry set up process, where the end product is more uniform and more durable. However when you ask the various manufacturers they either don't know or don't reply. I hear duraflex is the worse, but all this is what I hear. I like to see the product in person, and on a car. Tried Prior, but they had none to look at.
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Apr 25, 2014 | 02:32 AM
  #15  
Quote:
I paid only (if I remember right approx.3500 Eur for the kitt). I bought it from Ebay.+ head lamps and another mercedes OEM small stuffs…. so al together it was approx. 7000-8000 Eur. + paint jobb and rear fender instal. (I install everything my self except the rear fenders).
How did you get that kind of price? Was the kit used? Cheapest i have seen is $15K
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Apr 25, 2014 | 03:30 AM
  #16  
and that's not including the hood
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Apr 25, 2014 | 03:58 AM
  #17  
Quote: How did you get that kind of price? Was the kit used? Cheapest i have seen is $15K
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No, it was brand new… the hood also incl at the price.
I think timing was the key …..
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May 4, 2014 | 10:04 AM
  #18  
Here is some info on the quality of these products that I was talking about, depending on how this stuff is made, which seems to be difficult for manufactures to disclose how there's is made:

Vaccum bag with epoxy (good method):

Here is the wetlay up process and how its done. This is how Duraflex is made (cheap method):

You will see the wet lay up method is inconsistent. The fabric is basically shredded material with resin added by brush. There is no way of properly measuring what areas receive how much resin and fabric. The resin they use does not fully cure so there is shrinkage that can occur, which can lead to warping.

The vacuum bag process compresses the layers cloth (The cloth is woven, similar to carbon fiber). The process is more expensive since it is so time consuming and a lot of consumable materials are used. The result however is a stronger lighter part with no shrinkage.
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Jul 30, 2014 | 04:47 AM
  #19  
Introducing the SL65 kit.
Hi I'm from Xclusive Customz.

Have you seen our kit for the SL65? It's beautiful and very popular with our customers. You can also buy it from our website for £2500 delivered to your door (Free shipping for UK only) http://bit.ly/1iyKffJ

We are based in Sheffield, UK. If you have any questions fire away!

Thanks, Dan


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Jul 30, 2014 | 10:34 AM
  #20  
Quote: Hi there I can supply the bodykits, we are based in the uk, they are currently on a deal for £2750, if you are interested then please drop me an email
£2750? What's included in this price? Can you give more details?
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Jul 30, 2014 | 02:26 PM
  #21  
Quote: Hi I'm from Xclusive Customz.

Have you seen our kit for the SL65? It's beautiful and very popular with our customers. You can also buy it from our website for £2500 delivered to your door (Free shipping for UK only) http://bit.ly/1iyKffJ

We are based in Sheffield, UK. If you have any questions fire away!

Thanks, Dan


Nice design overall.. BUTT.. Noticing large fitment gaps between the rear sideskirt where it butts up to bottom rear 1/4 panel flairs w/slight twist and sizeable gap that's not accecptabe. It does the same towards the front on underside connection to front 1/4 panel flairs, again right at bottom where it meets new larger front fenders. This is obviously a finished build you're using for advertisement to garner sales so Im betting a lot of bodywork went into making it fit as well as it did.

The gaps in question are hideous & aren't indicitive of quality parts that fit together as they should. I have the Mishadesigns kt, there aren't ANY gaps like this present etc fix those problems (def in poor molding process) goodluck other than that kit looks sharp!
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Jul 30, 2014 | 02:55 PM
  #22  
Yeah if you can see screw-ups on a white car(easiest color to hide flaws) in pictures on the internet ( everything looks good on the internet) then you know you've got real problems.
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Jul 30, 2014 | 07:22 PM
  #23  
i hate fiber glass
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Jul 30, 2014 | 08:06 PM
  #24  
Yup, back to the same old basic and most important question noted above that no one talks about...what's it made of, what is the process involved (wet set up? vacuum method? etc).
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Aug 5, 2014 | 09:16 AM
  #25  
I've actually been interested in the Xclusive Customz bodykit for a while. I'm trying to decide between this and a few other European bodykit manufacturers that have copied the Black Series bodykit. If only we could find many large-resolution photos of the Xclusive Customz bodykit it would be great, but even their youtube videos are low quality. This photo of the white r230 is actually one of the few photoshoots they've done for any of their cars. Right now, I'm leaning towards another company to purchase the kit from, that actually seem to have used a mould from the actual Mercedes bodykit to replicate the kit.

The prior design "black series" kit is actually the most expensive you can find here in Europe, and IMHO the rear fenders of this are aweful. Also, a lot of the bodykit's lines look a tad off from the original Black Series bodykit. I'm actually being really picky, but aren't we all when making our car's exterior more beautiful? The other Prior Design bodykit (which looks like an SL63 widebody) is miles better and quite perfected.


Quote: Yeah if you can see screw-ups on a white car(easiest color to hide flaws) in pictures on the internet ( everything looks good on the internet) then you know you've got real problems.
I actually believe that white is showing all the lines and the gaps of the car as much as possible, especially since all the fender gaps are dark (black). Black seems the best choice to hide any bodykit lines or flaws in any car IMHO. Having experience and living with bodykits in a white e92 335i, a white ford fiesta and a red audi S5, I decided to look for a BLACK r230 for that reason. The black series bodykit looks extremely aggressive, but in black or dark grey, well it's just a beauty.
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