SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: ABC malfunction question?
#1
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ABC malfunction question?
hello fellow SL AMG'ers
Last night, my brother and i did a couple of runs with the C32 & the SL55. After our last run, my HUD chimed and a malfunction popped up saying "ABC visit workshop" BUT it wasn't a red screen. I went ahead and cycled the ABS raising and lowering it and turned on the ABC sport mode and all worked fine. I shut off the car to reset the malfunction, started it back up and all was good.
Today drove the SL around and the malfunction never came back on. Anyone experienced this?
TIA!
heres a quick HTC pic at chevron.
SL is still pretty much stock.
Last night, my brother and i did a couple of runs with the C32 & the SL55. After our last run, my HUD chimed and a malfunction popped up saying "ABC visit workshop" BUT it wasn't a red screen. I went ahead and cycled the ABS raising and lowering it and turned on the ABC sport mode and all worked fine. I shut off the car to reset the malfunction, started it back up and all was good.
Today drove the SL around and the malfunction never came back on. Anyone experienced this?
TIA!
heres a quick HTC pic at chevron.
SL is still pretty much stock.
#2
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Have it checked out. It will come back especially if you hear a "ticking" or "tapping" sound from inside the car. It will seem to come from under the steering wheel.of the car...the ABC pump is actually located near the front of the car.
#3
check the hoses. You might have a leak (low pressure) but enough fluid to continue function.
Dont let it go without looking into it, the ABC system is known to "domino" rather quickly
Dont let it go without looking into it, the ABC system is known to "domino" rather quickly
#4
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Look around...
Look for the obvious. Check fluid level in the tank. Dipstick marks are for running (lower range), and engine off (upper range).
Look for leaks at all 4 struts. Look for fluid on the LF and LR wheel wells where the valves are. A momentary low fluid level will throw this visit shop error.
If the pressure goes to zero...you get "red workshop" and a locked ABC system (valves stop operating). This takes a SDS & $$$$ to fix. No fiddling will resolve it.
Next I would look to have a SDS run to find any pressure errors. If nothing obvious turns up, start looking at accumulator replacements as they don't show up easily on any test or SDS.
Let us know what you find. We could all benefit from the fix.
Look for leaks at all 4 struts. Look for fluid on the LF and LR wheel wells where the valves are. A momentary low fluid level will throw this visit shop error.
If the pressure goes to zero...you get "red workshop" and a locked ABC system (valves stop operating). This takes a SDS & $$$$ to fix. No fiddling will resolve it.
Next I would look to have a SDS run to find any pressure errors. If nothing obvious turns up, start looking at accumulator replacements as they don't show up easily on any test or SDS.
Let us know what you find. We could all benefit from the fix.
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Can I say something, while I don't believe in "old wives tales" or "old car guys tales" it seems the advice of if it ain't broke don't mess with it may come into play...in this post.
I have heard from very knowledgeable guys on both sides of the fence on this one... change or not change the ABC fluid for I'f you do change it; your chances of failure rises. I don't know what to believe....
It seems that after I had my flush done for my ABC, the next day it started going into grade mode and then when it came into read mode I took it to the shop the same day and they said it was a bad ABC pump. Before doing the change I talked to numerous professionals in the industry and I got the assumption that it's better to do a flush based on certain mileage of the car because of the intense pressures and the heat at the ABC pump runs through. But they were also professionals in the field that I also came across who said leave it alone it's not designed to be flushed. In my favor actually what happened is the fluid that they used was not an OEM, therefore causing the pumps to go out and it was covered under warranty from the non OEM manufacturers who claim that it was oem in quality and I ended up getting a new pump out of it with OEM fluid but I still think that there's some truth to the fact that if it's not broke don't fix it.
I have heard from very knowledgeable guys on both sides of the fence on this one... change or not change the ABC fluid for I'f you do change it; your chances of failure rises. I don't know what to believe....
It seems that after I had my flush done for my ABC, the next day it started going into grade mode and then when it came into read mode I took it to the shop the same day and they said it was a bad ABC pump. Before doing the change I talked to numerous professionals in the industry and I got the assumption that it's better to do a flush based on certain mileage of the car because of the intense pressures and the heat at the ABC pump runs through. But they were also professionals in the field that I also came across who said leave it alone it's not designed to be flushed. In my favor actually what happened is the fluid that they used was not an OEM, therefore causing the pumps to go out and it was covered under warranty from the non OEM manufacturers who claim that it was oem in quality and I ended up getting a new pump out of it with OEM fluid but I still think that there's some truth to the fact that if it's not broke don't fix it.
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The same"ABC visit workshop" came back, and ABC all function well. I haven't gotten around to have it checked out yet though.
#10
Well, I have to report back after replacing all 4 struts with arnott, both valve bodies repaired (then one replaced after finding out the solenoid was bad), the 2 rears are still leaking.
If I don't drive the car for more than 12 hours, it'll turn on with the "car too low" red dash message. Hitting the raise button pops the car up and clears it, making the car perfectly drivable for that session (though I notice the rear bottoms out on some uphill transitions while turning)
Arnott has told me they're out of cores and can't honor their lifetime warranty without me sending my cores in first.
I will say, the only components that ever leaked were the struts. I never had a bad pump or blown hose. Fingers crossed.
If I don't drive the car for more than 12 hours, it'll turn on with the "car too low" red dash message. Hitting the raise button pops the car up and clears it, making the car perfectly drivable for that session (though I notice the rear bottoms out on some uphill transitions while turning)
Arnott has told me they're out of cores and can't honor their lifetime warranty without me sending my cores in first.
I will say, the only components that ever leaked were the struts. I never had a bad pump or blown hose. Fingers crossed.
#11
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i did some research and found that another reason that CAN cause a blue screen "ABC visit workshop" is a low voltage/dying accessory trunk battery. Especially if the car is not a DD, and kinda just stays in the garage...in which often times she is a garage queen more so recently, which makes sense, because when i do start up the SL after not being started for days on, i get a malfunction saying "convenient features temporary unavailable" (dome lights, ventilated fans/heated seats, top up/down), then once the car recharges system, then its good to go again.