SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Omg Look At The New Sl65 Amg!!!
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You realize that making a "sporty" version of a car isn't something that just happens one day. They can't just say lets make it sporty and do it. It costs millions to completely redisgn the focus of a car like that and maybe there is a business decision being made as well. Sure they're losing sales but would the sales they gain make up for the RD costs of developing a completely new line of vehicles? You have no way of knowing but you have to take that into account as well.
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Originally posted by tommy
Rev - I fully agree with that. I never said that MB wasn't aware of how stupid they are. :p
Rev - I fully agree with that. I never said that MB wasn't aware of how stupid they are. :p
, and end up going to another brand, but for every customer that walks away, they gain more than 1 in return. As for offering an option of both, perhaps they have determined that this would also hurt their growth.
Disclaimer:
Now as I said before, I am not in this industry, and I don't know if brand growth is the main motivator in these decisions. It could just as easily be a pure profit driven decision. I am only speculating and offering my $.02.
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1M, F550M, F550B, F40, S600, 365GTC, DBSx2, etc.
Originally posted by HITMAN
whats not sporty about 604 hp
I dont have any idea what you guys are talking about.
whats not sporty about 604 hp
I dont have any idea what you guys are talking about.
--Dan
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Originally posted by Samoan_Ridah
Not sure if I'm going off topic by commenting on the original post but the SL65 is beautiful!
Not sure if I'm going off topic by commenting on the original post but the SL65 is beautiful!
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Originally posted by tommy
Yes, Mom.
The thing is that you're not right - you can equip a BMW comparably to an AMG, you just can't do the opposite, which is a shame.
Yes, Mom.
The thing is that you're not right - you can equip a BMW comparably to an AMG, you just can't do the opposite, which is a shame.
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2003 C230K Sport Coupe, 1986 190E 2.3
Originally posted by hellcat
Yes I'll agree to that and it proves me point as well. Obviously you'll compare the two in deciding what to buy. But they are different cars, which is why you choose one over the other. mctwin2kman asked why MB can't make cars more like M cars and you said essentially the same thing. My whole point has been that they don't want to. Yes the cars are comparable but they're not the same and they're not meant to be the same.
Yes I'll agree to that and it proves me point as well. Obviously you'll compare the two in deciding what to buy. But they are different cars, which is why you choose one over the other. mctwin2kman asked why MB can't make cars more like M cars and you said essentially the same thing. My whole point has been that they don't want to. Yes the cars are comparable but they're not the same and they're not meant to be the same.
Edit: I just want the option in the US for a diferent Tranny than the Slush..... They have the option in other countries, just not the US.....
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Some wise man from Mercedes-Benz said : "there is one reason why there is such a high level of equipment in the car - cause that's what the customers demand"
They are NOT stupid! They know what people expect.
They are NOT stupid! They know what people expect.
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Originally posted by Brav
Things gotta be fater than 4.2 0-60.. no traction maybe. Then again, they always understate times.
700+ lb/ft tq for god's sake.
Things gotta be fater than 4.2 0-60.. no traction maybe. Then again, they always understate times.
700+ lb/ft tq for god's sake.
0-200kmh 12,6s
results taken from "Auto Motor und Sport", June 2004.
any other questions?
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Originally posted by Kubazzz
0-100kmh [= 0-60mph] in 3,9s
0-200kmh 12,6s
results taken from "Auto Motor und Sport", June 2004.
any other questions?
0-100kmh [= 0-60mph] in 3,9s
0-200kmh 12,6s
results taken from "Auto Motor und Sport", June 2004.
any other questions?
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I guess you could call it detuned, because the engine is capable of producing 1200nm instead of 1000nm, and similar increases in power. I'm pretty sure the engine is simply limited to 1000nm, not detuned. They have not done this to make the engine last longer, although it would have a small effect, but to save the gearbox, which can only just handle 1000nm. When the 7 speed unit is strengthened, it should be able to handle 1200nm. However, I think this will be with the facelift of the SL
Conversion will be needed to have the ultimate car I guess, unless you like the styling of the new car.
Conversion will be needed to have the ultimate car I guess, unless you like the styling of the new car.
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Originally posted by HITMAN
what are you saying
what are you saying
As for the detuning, i agree that it could be for other parts on the car that cant handle the full potential of this engine.
T
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