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Old 02-02-2005, 10:05 PM
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V8K engine noise upon cold start

Is it normal to hear a whining/growling sound from the V8K engine for a few seconds after starting a cold engine? If I had to guess, it sounds like a lack of lubrication. After about 5 seconds it goes away - at about the same time the idle speed drops. When the engine is warm, this doesn't seem to happen.

This is on a brand new '05 SL55. My '04 SL500 made no such noise.

Is this normal?
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That's probably the compressor that you paid all that extra money for making itself heard...
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That's probably the compressor that you paid all that extra money for making itself heard...
I have the same thing and have 'heard' that it's normal... As chance would have it, I'm taking it into the dealership tomorrow for my pre-3000 mile checkup... I will ask the tech about it...

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I have the same thing and have 'heard' that it's normal... As chance would have it, I'm taking it into the dealership tomorrow for my pre-3000 mile checkup... I will ask the tech about it...

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Let me know what you find out. I'm only 260 miles into the first 1000/3000 checkup. If this is something abnormal, I'll take it in earlier.
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that is the air injection pump making noise for the first few seconds of startup.
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Originally Posted by AlBoston
that is the air injection pump making noise for the first few seconds of startup.
Did my '04 SL500 have the same air injection pump - or is this something unique to the V8K's?

It sounds like there's someone under the hood trying to cut a wet 2-by-4 using an old circular saw with worn out bearings - after 10 seconds it fades out and goes away.

If I turn the car off, wait a few seconds and start it again - I get none of this noise at all. Strange. You would think the air injection pump would come on every time the engine is started.
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Let me know what you find out. I'm only 260 miles into the first 1000/3000 checkup. If this is something abnormal, I'll take it in earlier.
Just back with my car... 2500 miles. The tech said it's NORMAL on a cold start... and even had one of the sales guys fire a cold 55 that was on the lot. Same noise... though it sounds a lot worse in my enclosed garage in the morning.

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It's not the air pump. It is the Kompressor clutch/pulley. I have the same sound. Lasts for about 10 seconds at cold start.
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The saw analogy is a good one. I get this sound on cold start ups with my 500 as well.
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The saw analogy is a good one. I get this sound on cold start ups with my 500 as well.
If you are hearing a "Saw" sound, it probably is your air pump going bad.

Eventually if it burns out you will smell it.
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Yeah, the sound is like a mix of between a miniture table saw (you know with the round blade) and a small vaccume cleaner. The sound is muffled and not harsh. It only happens when I start the car on cold mornings. After the car's been going for a few minutes, I don't hear it again. I believe that this sound is the same sound that everyone else is talking about. This is not normal?

Thanks for the heads up Awiner.
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and it only lasts for approximately 10 seconds.
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Chris' description of the noise he is hearing from his '500 is dead-on with what I'm hearing from the '55. I didn't think my '500 did the same, but I've been without it for the past 8 weeks waiting for the new '55 to arrive.

So it looks like the noise is from the air injection pump - and it's not uncommon (they all do that?). At some point I'd like to understand why the air pump makes this noise - like lack of lubrication, about to fail, etc.

Thanks to all who responded.
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the noise you hear on start up is your power steering pump and thats normal.good luck with your car.
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LMAO... We have now 3 possible noises. I know what all 3 noises sound like and it is hard to explain over a forum which is which.

The "SAW" type noise is definitely the centrifugal air pump however.

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