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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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Hi there--I am a soon to be driver of a new '03 SLK230. I am used to a more basic road animal-'97 Miata (which will have to be sold )---anyway, after reading several of the posts here, I am wondering if the '03 has improved on any of the wind noise, water leak, roof problems?

I am also wondering what other common problems I need to be on the lookout for, since the nearest MB dealer is 180 miles away over an 8,200 ft high pass.

I am lucky in that Reno averages over 300 days of sun, but while today is sunny, it's also in the high teens to low twenties for most of the day. How is this car in snow?

Thanks in advance for your kind advice. Larry
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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hmm... I don't know of any changes for the 2003 SLK's.... I think MB is coming out with a new body style and engine in 2004 or 2005?.....

OH yeah.. a few of us have noticed leaking from the roof.. nothing to be too worried about....
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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I've had my 03 SLK230 for 3 months/5000 miles (yeah I drive alot, lol) and the only problem I've had is the coolant light coming on, which I hear is a somewhat commom problem among SLK's in general. And the am/fm didn't work, but it was like that since the day I bought it. I could have left it there to have it fixed, but I waited so long to get it, I didn't care, lol. I recently had both the coolant light and radio repaired though. Overall, I love it! Good luck!!
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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if you plan on driving this regularly in the snow, don't get an extended warranty... you won't need that, rather, start looking around for cheap funerals. If you see some of my pictures of my SLK you know what I mean
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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So apricotscrub--are you sugesting that the SLK could be worse than my 2,000 lb. Miata in the snow? Since I haven't driven an SLK (in or out of the snow)-I really do not think it could be worse than a car so light that it can't get traction-on snow-without an extra 500 lbs. in the pasenger seat-with chains on-following a sanding truck.

Oh well, maybe I'll find out the hard way-thanks for the response.

Larry
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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SLKs are fine in the snow, but ONLY if you have the proper tires. We discussed this at length on the SLK forum over at benzworld.org.

If you have an SLK230 or SLK320, this is what you need

1. Four snow tires sized 205/55R16
2. Four 7x16 wheels (same size as the stock front rims).

- Do not get "all-season" tires.
- Do not get 225/50R16 winter tires for the rear.
- Do not mount the rear winter tires on the 8x16 rear rims.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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Brian_R170---thanks for the info. Are there basic, ugly stock steel wheels available for an MB (I guess I'm a bit nervous about ending up with such a "high end" car).

We do not get as much snow here in Reno as up on the hills, usually a few inches that go away in a day or so--will the SLK handle that amount of snow? Or will I have to go to the "snow tires" as suggested for that little amount of snow (the Miata has trouble with 2 inches of snow with it's 195-50-15 all season Toyos).

Thanks again-Larry

P.S.--if push comes to shove-I can beg my wife to use her '01 Grand Cherokee (ya-right!)
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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Are there basic, ugly stock steel wheels available for an MB (I guess I'm a bit nervous about ending up with such a "high end" car).
Yes, steel wheels with M-B-style wheel covers are available. Tirerack sells them.

We do not get as much snow here in Reno as up on the hills, usually a few inches that go away in a day or so--will the SLK handle that amount of snow? Or will I have to go to the "snow tires" as suggested for that little amount of snow (the Miata has trouble with 2 inches of snow with it's 195-50-15 all season Toyos).
Yes, you still need to get snow tires. If you don't think it's worth the money or hassle of buying an extra set of tires for such a small amount of snow, then find alternate transportation for the few days when there's snow on the ground... but DON'T drive your SLK! I've read at least a dozen stories on SLK forums about people that didn't get snow tires because it doesn't snow often enough, or that procrastinated and didn't get them installed before the first snow, or that thought all-seasons would be good enough. I think about 25% of those people ended up having a wreck. Most of them still blame the SLK because they're used to driving front-whee-drive cars with all-season tires.

Check out the following link on David's (aka Periokid) website:
http://www.slk32.com/pages/winterdri...erdriving.html

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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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Brian_R170 is completely right. If you go out in any amount of snow with the stock tires, you will regret it. I was stuck for an hour in only a couple inches and had to have someone come get me. If I knew it was going to be that bad, I wouldn't have taken it out and I would have taken another car. But when I left in the morning it wasn't snowing, then work closed early due to a storm and I had no choice but to drive in it. There's under an inch of snow on my driveway now and I can BARELY make it up with out spinning. Yesterday I got stuck in a parking spot. And just imagine, I was going to get a Corvette instead of the SLK!! lol
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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We have a lot of snow here in Rochester. I dont have winter tires so I dont use the car when there is more than a couple of inches of snow on the ground.

The trick to driving in the snow if you have to is to be careful about getting snow compacted around the tires. Once this happens, your wheels will be coated and it will be useless. TO make sure this doenst happen, restrain from hard acceleration or quick stops.

Dont get me wrong, the car can slip and spin you all over the road so winter tires are the way to go if you are planning to drive a lot in winter. It makes a huge difference.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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i still say to buy a gravestone than tires.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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I also agree with Brian. I have those nasty black steel rims with snows front and back. I live on a mountain with 1/2 mile private unimproved road before my driveway(snow and ice covered 3 months of the year). I tried it with the summer tires and was an instant believer in snow tires for this car. Mine are staggered sizes as suggested in the owner's manual and the traction/handling difference was dramatic. It's not as good as my del Sol, but it's not as bad as some would have you believe. My only regret is that I now have steel rims and wheelcovers on a car that has such great AMG rims in the summertime.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 11:22 PM
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100 to 200 lbs of weight in the trunk will help alot.

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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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My only regret is that I now have steel rims and wheelcovers on a car that has such great AMG rims in the summertime.
I have snow tires and steel wheels for all my vehicles. Steel wheels in part because I previously had problems with the tires separating from the alloy wheels in very cold weather (-20 F) and going flat. I fully intended to get steel wheels for my SLK I just purchased in December, but I couldn't bring myself to do it. Instead I ordered a nice set of silver-painted 5-spoke alloys which I actually like better than the AMG summer wheels. I just gave 'em a good coat of wax and hope for good luck with the cold. So far so good.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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OK--now I'm getting worried about the drivability of the SLK. I can pretty much get around in a few inches of snow-very carefully-with my Miata rear wheel drive -5 speed -2000 lb car--I do carry s-class chains in the boot-but have yet had to resort to putting them on. I really thought that the heavier SLK with the auto trans in W mode would be quite a bit easier to drive in a little snow.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks for all the replys--I tried another MB forum site, but with no response. Nothing. Nada.


:p Larry
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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It’s the tires.

I too have a Miata in addition to the SLK. I have driven the Miata through 4 Minnesota winters and the SLK for the past few months. The SLK, with its higher clearance (my Miata is lowered a bit), ABS, and traction control is a better driver in the snow than the Miata. This comparison is with snow tires on both vehicles.

The tires matter - a lot. The Miata had some all-season Bridgestone tires when I first got it. These were OK in snow. When I moved up to high-performance tires for summer, things changed dramatically in the snow. My current set of Miata summer tires are Toyo T1-S high-performance, unidirectional tires. They are excellent street tires on dry pavement and very good in the wet. They are absolutely horrid in snow and can make the rear end of the car have a mind of its own. I will not drive the car in any snow with those tires.

If you compare the SLK with its performance tires to other cars with all-season tires, the SLK will lose. If you compare with like, appropriate for the season tires, the SLK holds its own in snow.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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It is indeed the tires that make a difference. Brian suggested the narrower tires on both front and rear instead of staggered sizes front to back as per the owner's manual. The reason this works better is that you actually want a skinny agressive tread contact point in the winter. Wide summer tires in the winter work on the same principle as snow shoes. They distribute the weight that you really need to cut into the snow, not ride on top of it. The only reason I stuck with the OEM suggested sizes is that I was afraid of confusing the onboard traction system.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 04:47 AM
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Remember the stock SLK(non-sport) wears 205/55R-16s on the front, and 225/50R-16s on the rear if you want to keep the same size all around for snow tires on an SLK you could go with the 205/55s on all four corners and it wouldn't mess with the on board computers.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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The USA Edition Owner's Manual recommends 205/55 R 16s on all four corners in winter, which is what I did.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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DickB; did you by new rims and if so what size and are they alloy or steel.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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DickB; did you by new rims and if so what size and are they alloy or steel.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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DickB; did you by new rims and if so what size and are they alloy or steel.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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Alloy.

I bought a tire & wheel package from Tire Rack. 16x7 alloy Valore Sport Edition alloy wheels.
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