SLS/R197/C197 AMG: Weistec/Klassen Wheel SLS Black Series SEMA/Optima Invitational Build
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Yes we have al kinds of dyno charts. Built motor including forged Wesitec pistons, rods, Weistec race port heads, cams, built trans, custom drive shaft, axles, rear-end and a larger tahn currently available to the public Wesitec blower that can make 20psi of boost. Lots of fuel system upgrades too, you should see the size of the fuel lines and fuel pump and injectors. In addition to all the motor, trans and drivetrain mods the frame has been modded, custom built suspension at all four corners, brake mods and the previously mentioned full race cage all help to sure up the chassis.
I am running two lightweight race seats but other than that it is a full interior car, navi, power windows and door locks. I did remove the AC from the car, no real need for that.
Earl was talking about selling his CLK BS as he has started a new project, it has a lot of the same stuf as my car and dynoed at over 1000whp if I am not mistaken. Maybe that would make a nice edition to your collection. Both his CLK and mine are both out at Wesitec in Santa Ana if you want to take a look at either of them.
I am running two lightweight race seats but other than that it is a full interior car, navi, power windows and door locks. I did remove the AC from the car, no real need for that.
Earl was talking about selling his CLK BS as he has started a new project, it has a lot of the same stuf as my car and dynoed at over 1000whp if I am not mistaken. Maybe that would make a nice edition to your collection. Both his CLK and mine are both out at Wesitec in Santa Ana if you want to take a look at either of them.
I've given this lots of thought & ONLY problem I foresaw was future SMOG's IE due every 2 yrs in CA, but I have found NEW connections that will make this a simple yearly PASS lol.. During my research into my upcoming build is the 3.0 Liter build on 63 applications totally removes 2ndary SMOG Pump & why majority in CA (or other Tree-Huggn' Man-Dall wearing Prius phag states) Have to opt for the smaller 2.4 liter blower option, but INMOP "Why even bother? Go BIG or phuk it"
I'll deff go to check on your Weistec "Corall" -Where you keep those 1200 Ponies.
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Ahh very kewl! I will def stop by & introduce myself to the Weistec group. My 63 amg will not be the norm CLK/C63/ etc put it this way, I like yourself enjoy being the 1st or 1 of 1 owner of a completely 1 OFF creation I've given this lots of thought & ONLY problem I foresaw was future SMOG's IE due every 2 yrs in CA, but I have found NEW connections that will make this a simple yearly PASS lol..
During my research into my upcoming build is the 3.0 Liter build on 63 applications totally removes 2ndary SMOG Pump & why majority in CA (or other Tree-Huggn' Man-Dall wearing Prius phag states) Have to opt for the smaller 2.4 liter blower option, but INMOP "Why even bother? Go BIG or phuk it"
I'll deff go to check on your Weistec "Corall" -Where you keep those 1200 Ponies.
I've given this lots of thought & ONLY problem I foresaw was future SMOG's IE due every 2 yrs in CA, but I have found NEW connections that will make this a simple yearly PASS lol.. During my research into my upcoming build is the 3.0 Liter build on 63 applications totally removes 2ndary SMOG Pump & why majority in CA (or other Tree-Huggn' Man-Dall wearing Prius phag states) Have to opt for the smaller 2.4 liter blower option, but INMOP "Why even bother? Go BIG or phuk it"
I'll deff go to check on your Weistec "Corall" -Where you keep those 1200 Ponies.
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I will not be there, I am at home in Chicago now, headed to Dallas this weekend and then off to Vegas for SEMA and Optima race. Let me know what day you are thinking of heading down and I will confirm that Steve or Mike the owners of Weistec will be there to show you around and take you for a ride in the CLK. Both my CLK and SLS will be getting loaded on the trailer and heading to SEMA on Sunday I think. Both cars are then heading from SEMA to Chicago then on to MIR the following weekend. Let me know.
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I will not be there, I am at home in Chicago now, headed to Dallas this weekend and then off to Vegas for SEMA and Optima race. Let me know what day you are thinking of heading down and I will confirm that Steve or Mike the owners of Weistec will be there to show you around and take you for a ride in the CLK. Both my CLK and SLS will be getting loaded on the trailer and heading to SEMA on Sunday I think. Both cars are then heading from SEMA to Chicago then on to MIR the following weekend. Let me know.
sent u my cell in PM bump me back & I'll give you deff date PS I'll bring my lowly SL too & give Steve//Mike a ride to see what they think.. Def not in ur league until Marcin sends my Anarchy pkg.. But he just sent me a low low boost 14-15 psi (of same pkg I've bought) hitting 1000hp on 93 pump, he's set to bump psi up to 20-25 on C16 it will be pushing UNGODLY torque my best guess 1400+ rwtq etc here's vid he just put up on Youtube, my handle is Athena4512 in Comments sectionNotice wiggle @ about 10-15 sec into vid, made em pump the brakes for quck sec lol.. Luv that semi outta control feeling..
Chk screen shots I estimate speed was about 60 odd mph when stomped for dually broadies
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1400 torque is no joke, that more torque than mine is making....gotta love those big turbos!
How many SL's do you own?
How many SL's do you own?
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few other work trucks etc.. No way near your league.. But will be growing the Stable nicely in 2014Did you see my new CCW wheel setup in prep for this GT30 turb upgrade? 345/30 BFG on 18x13 CCW powdercoated matte blk
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Your SL is one of the baddest looking SL's onthe planet.
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Naa another East Coast customers widebody
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Wesitec is putting in some OT to get ths thing done in time, they are nearly done with the build. They built headers and mids already. Blower is going on today. Cooling system mods and heat exchanger already plumbed and routed. Brake calipers should be getting back from painter today and Klassen machined the wheels and they are out for paint.
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I just sent him a text, told him to PM you. I have no idea what he is selling for but I know how much he has into becuase his CLK build and mine were nearly identical up until recently. It is a very clean example of a CLK BS and I know he has some extra parts and wheels to go with it. What he has into it would probably make your head spin but I know he does not ever expect to get that kind of money out of it, he is pretty realistic when it comes to stuff like that. I know if I were him I would probably list it for $140K and maybe move off that by $5000-$10,000 tops, but that's just me his number might be much higher or much lower than that so don't let my post discourge you if you are interested, I am just thinking out load here for sake of conversation.
Let's put it this way, you could not reproduce his car for under $165K and that would be factoring in the cost of a used CLK BS at the price of $70K plus mods. His Wesitec blower is larger than 3.0L and he has lots of one-off (two-off actually) parts, a full cage fully built motor, with Wesitec heads and cams, built trans, special suspension, control arms, axles and drive shaft.
Let's put it this way, you could not reproduce his car for under $165K and that would be factoring in the cost of a used CLK BS at the price of $70K plus mods. His Wesitec blower is larger than 3.0L and he has lots of one-off (two-off actually) parts, a full cage fully built motor, with Wesitec heads and cams, built trans, special suspension, control arms, axles and drive shaft.
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I just sent him a text, told him to PM you. I have no idea what he is selling for but I know how much he has into becuase his CLK build and mine were nearly identical up until recently. It is a very clean example of a CLK BS and I know he has some extra parts and wheels to go with it. What he has into it would probably make your head spin but I know he does not ever expect to get that kind of money out of it, he is pretty realistic when it comes to stuff like that. I know if I were him I would probably list it for $140K and maybe move off that by $5000-$10,000 tops, but that's just me his number might be much higher or much lower than that so don't let my post discourge you if you are interested, I am just thinking out load here for sake of conversation.
Let's put it this way, you could not reproduce his car for under $165K and that would be factoring in the cost of a used CLK BS at the price of $70K plus mods. His Wesitec blower is larger than 3.0L and he has lots of one-off (two-off actually) parts, a full cage fully built motor, with Wesitec heads and cams, built trans, special suspension, control arms, axles and drive shaft.
Let's put it this way, you could not reproduce his car for under $165K and that would be factoring in the cost of a used CLK BS at the price of $70K plus mods. His Wesitec blower is larger than 3.0L and he has lots of one-off (two-off actually) parts, a full cage fully built motor, with Wesitec heads and cams, built trans, special suspension, control arms, axles and drive shaft.
thnx again..
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Wow... He has done a lot of work to that car!
I had look at those prices earlier. And you are right on those numbers. (used car and parts)
I have been looking at getting a new toy, Porsche, Lamborghini, C BS or CLK BS. After reading the post comparison of C and CLK. I've come to the conclusion that The CLK is probably the better Deal. Bang for $.
& taking into consideration the depreciation.
Then after reading your post... Yes I am really curious.
I received his pm. And sent an e-mail.
Thanks
Wow... He has done a lot of work to that car!
I had look at those prices earlier. And you are right on those numbers. (used car and parts)
I have been looking at getting a new toy, Porsche, Lamborghini, C BS or CLK BS. After reading the post comparison of C and CLK. I've come to the conclusion that The CLK is probably the better Deal. Bang for $.
& taking into consideration the depreciation.
Then after reading your post... Yes I am really curious.
I received his pm. And sent an e-mail.
Thanks
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No, Earl and I have been testing a larger blower on our cars for Weistec. My CLK has the same larger blower as Earls. I can not say much more than that at this time because I do not know what info Weistec wants released but I am sure it will all come out in two weeks after MIR.
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No, Earl and I have been testing a larger blower on our cars for Weistec. My CLK has the same larger blower as Earls. I can not say much more than that at this time because I do not know what info Weistec wants released but I am sure it will all come out in two weeks after MIR.
Obviously Whipple makes Weistecs Blowers, standard is 2.9 then 3.3-4.0-5.0 & up I'm guessing from your PREVIOUS statement "Larger than 3.0" as previously noted Weistecs just relabling the Whipple 2.9 as 3.0 as market stategy, & 6-9 PSI is most used/safe range even when built w/built Lower Comp engines. I'm betting Weistec's got you guys on 3.3 Liter @ very least i bet MINIMUM 10#'s boost Excellent!
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Ohh snap so this obviously makes sense now in your latest 1200 rwp claim Obviously Whipple makes Weistecs Blowers, standard is 2.9 then 3.3-4.0-5.0 & up I'm guessing from your PREVIOUS statement "Larger than 3.0" as previously noted Weistecs just relabling the Whipple 2.9 as 3.0 as market stategy, & 6-9 PSI is most used/safe range even when built w/built Lower Comp engines. I'm betting Weistec's got you guys on 3.3 Liter @ very least i bet MINIMUM 10#'s boost Excellent!
Obviously Whipple makes Weistecs Blowers, standard is 2.9 then 3.3-4.0-5.0 & up I'm guessing from your PREVIOUS statement "Larger than 3.0" as previously noted Weistecs just relabling the Whipple 2.9 as 3.0 as market stategy, & 6-9 PSI is most used/safe range even when built w/built Lower Comp engines. I'm betting Weistec's got you guys on 3.3 Liter @ very least i bet MINIMUM 10#'s boost Excellent!
and MUCH higher boost than 9psi
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Jimmy,
My yacht is on this side of the Atlantic for a bit. I am flying to key west to meet up with it but I am planning to go via Vegas.
The car will stay out west for no fly zone. I am trying to get the worlds most powerful BMW to come out but am sure some excuse will prevent him for showing.
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My yacht is on this side of the Atlantic for a bit. I am flying to key west to meet up with it but I am planning to go via Vegas.
The car will stay out west for no fly zone. I am trying to get the worlds most powerful BMW to come out but am sure some excuse will prevent him for showing.
Earl
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Jimmy,
My yacht is on this side of the Atlantic for a bit. I am flying to key west to meet up with it but I am planning to go via Vegas.
The car will stay out west for no fly zone. I am trying to get the worlds most powerful BMW to come out but am sure some excuse will prevent him for showing.
Earl
My yacht is on this side of the Atlantic for a bit. I am flying to key west to meet up with it but I am planning to go via Vegas.
The car will stay out west for no fly zone. I am trying to get the worlds most powerful BMW to come out but am sure some excuse will prevent him for showing.
Earl
You need to register for the Michigan Mile, by far the best airstrip event I have run, runway is 155ft wide and 8000ft long.
See you in Vegas next week I guess. I got rooms at Cosmo and Palms, I prefer Cosmo but parking a 50ft trailer at any hotels on the strip is difficult so most likely going to be over at the Palms, the can accomidate my rig.
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Worlds most poweful BMW wont stand a chance, he only went 174 or 178 i the half mile, my CLK went 187 and that was with close to 400 less hp. I expect my CLK to break 200 in the 1/2 mile next time out.
You need to register for the Michigan Mile, by far the best airstrip event I have run, runway is 155ft wide and 8000ft long.
See you in Vegas next week I guess. I got rooms at Cosmo and Palms, I prefer Cosmo but parking a 50ft trailer at any hotels on the strip is difficult so most likely going to be over at the Palms, the can accomidate my rig.
You need to register for the Michigan Mile, by far the best airstrip event I have run, runway is 155ft wide and 8000ft long.
See you in Vegas next week I guess. I got rooms at Cosmo and Palms, I prefer Cosmo but parking a 50ft trailer at any hotels on the strip is difficult so most likely going to be over at the Palms, the can accomidate my rig.
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LOL
You misunderstood me.. I said 6-10#'s of Boost on LOWEST safe range BASIC setting, I know it lists potential of UP to 20 PSI etc..
So I def sense the good humoured sarcasm between you & Ecampbell over Blowers ACTUAL size & admittedly kno dik on Weistec or Whipples possible NEW blower sizing
though from InnerWeb it goes 2.9-3.3-4.0-5.0 etc so UNLESS Weistec Ported the sh_t outta the 2.9 or Whipple is releasing a new sized blower between 2.9-4.0 liter current offerings?
You've already dropped it's bigger than 3.3 so we must be talking 4.0 liter WoW!
etc..So I def sense the good humoured
sarcasm between you & Ecampbell over Blowers ACTUAL size & admittedly kno dik on Weistec or Whipples possible NEW blower sizing though from InnerWeb it goes 2.9-3.3-4.0-5.0 etc so UNLESS Weistec Ported the sh_t outta the 2.9 or Whipple is releasing a new sized blower between 2.9-4.0 liter current offerings?You've already dropped it's bigger than 3.3 so we must be talking 4.0 liter WoW!
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