E55 Kleeman vs www.jimmy540i.com
07-22-2002, 03:53 PM
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E55 Kleeman vs www.jimmy540i.com
hello.
i want to get some feedback.
do you think a stock E55 with only the Kleeman and lowering springs modification can take on this modified BMW 540i?
thanks...
i want to get some feedback.
do you think a stock E55 with only the Kleeman and lowering springs modification can take on this modified BMW 540i?
thanks...
07-22-2002, 08:31 PM
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Re: E55 Kleeman vs www.jimmy540i.com
Originally posted by Walden
hello.
i want to get some feedback.
do you think a stock E55 with only the Kleeman and lowering springs modification can take on this modified BMW 540i?
thanks...
hello.
i want to get some feedback.
do you think a stock E55 with only the Kleeman and lowering springs modification can take on this modified BMW 540i?
thanks...
07-22-2002, 11:31 PM
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Not this again.....
"jimmy" and his 540I (along with his handgun collection which is also featured on his website) benefitted from testing against a CLK55 WITH THE TRACTION CONTROL ON! As well as an intercooler that was devoid of any liquid. A hose clamp failed during the driving/photo session and it was replaced- but the folks on hand had no idea how to bleed the system-as a result it was non-functional.
The car featured is Latrell Sprewells car- the last time I checked it could hammer ANY 540i with a squirrel cage attached to it- Latrell loves it and his CL55K (which he calls his favorite car, and he has many).
The car featured is Latrell Sprewells car- the last time I checked it could hammer ANY 540i with a squirrel cage attached to it- Latrell loves it and his CL55K (which he calls his favorite car, and he has many).
07-22-2002, 11:33 PM
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Re: Re: E55 Kleeman vs www.jimmy540i.com
Originally posted by JamE55
Y E S ! ! ! ! Here's what you do. Get a kleemann speed sensitive suspension and then add a kleemann kompressor that's set a .06 bar. You should have about close to or over 600HP. Jimmy's 540i won't even come close to this power.
Y E S ! ! ! ! Here's what you do. Get a kleemann speed sensitive suspension and then add a kleemann kompressor that's set a .06 bar. You should have about close to or over 600HP. Jimmy's 540i won't even come close to this power.
.06bar= .88 psi (.06 x 14.7) This wont bring much HP!
.6 bar however.......
07-23-2002, 10:07 AM
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Re: Re: Re: E55 Kleeman vs www.jimmy540i.com
Originally posted by KLEEMANN
FYI-
.06bar= .88 psi (.06 x 14.7) This wont bring much HP!
.6 bar however.......
FYI-
.06bar= .88 psi (.06 x 14.7) This wont bring much HP!
.6 bar however.......
Thanks for straightening it out Kleemann!
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07-24-2002, 09:36 AM
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kleeman times not good enough
hello.
with those times of 4.7-4.9 and 13.4-13.7, Jimmy's 540i would destroy a kleeman E55.
did anyone actually test a kleeman E55 for 0-60 and 1/4 mile?
with those times of 4.7-4.9 and 13.4-13.7, Jimmy's 540i would destroy a kleeman E55.
did anyone actually test a kleeman E55 for 0-60 and 1/4 mile?
07-24-2002, 10:26 AM
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Read and believe what you want- but do the math first. How does a 540i with 450hp/405tq better a 996tt on paper? I too can mount a first gen G-tech to my window and spit out numbers- most of them inaccurate and unobtainable in the real world.
The major issue with 0-60 times is traction- you just cant put enough tire on a W210 with 510 lbs/ft to mitigate wheel spin. Over half of the distance covered in a typicall KLEEMANN V8 run is with the tires smoking.
As for the 1/4 mile- you are right- I posted standard car numbers, my mistake, 12.5 @ 113.
Please see http://www.mbautowerks.com for more info.
The major issue with 0-60 times is traction- you just cant put enough tire on a W210 with 510 lbs/ft to mitigate wheel spin. Over half of the distance covered in a typicall KLEEMANN V8 run is with the tires smoking.
As for the 1/4 mile- you are right- I posted standard car numbers, my mistake, 12.5 @ 113.
Please see http://www.mbautowerks.com for more info.
07-24-2002, 10:38 AM
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This is for all you non Kleemann believers.
This is what Kleemann is talking about.
http://www.mbautowerks.com/performan...5_KLEEMANN.avi
Enjoy the smoke!!
This is what Kleemann is talking about.
http://www.mbautowerks.com/performan...5_KLEEMANN.avi
Enjoy the smoke!!
07-24-2002, 04:10 PM
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E55, F550, S600 Ducati 999
Kleemann
12.5 for the quarter is much better, but a bit conservative perhaps?
I know that 0-60 times are limited by traction, even in the std E55, but I would expect a 1/4 mile time for a 3900lb 550hp car to be a flat 12 on a properly prepared dragstrip.
12.5 for the quarter is much better, but a bit conservative perhaps?
I know that 0-60 times are limited by traction, even in the std E55, but I would expect a 1/4 mile time for a 3900lb 550hp car to be a flat 12 on a properly prepared dragstrip.
07-24-2002, 04:21 PM
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You can see in the video that the CLK is being "braked" to help with the burnout. I can and have done the same as the video, without resorting to using braking tecniques on a standard E55, the trick is getting the car to continue the spinning into 2nd.
My point being that smokey burnouts prove nothing, dyno graphs and ultimately 1/4 mile times are real world measures.
There is no doubt however of the performance capabilities of the Kleemann supercharger conversion. The recent toppling of Brabus for the worlds fastest 4 door sedan is EMPIRICAL proof of this.
You can see in the video that the CLK is being "braked" to help with the burnout. I can and have done the same as the video, without resorting to using braking tecniques on a standard E55, the trick is getting the car to continue the spinning into 2nd.
My point being that smokey burnouts prove nothing, dyno graphs and ultimately 1/4 mile times are real world measures.
There is no doubt however of the performance capabilities of the Kleemann supercharger conversion. The recent toppling of Brabus for the worlds fastest 4 door sedan is EMPIRICAL proof of this.
07-24-2002, 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by stephens
My point being that smokey burnouts prove nothing, dyno graphs and ultimately 1/4 mile times are real world measures.
There is no doubt however of the performance capabilities of the Kleemann supercharger conversion. The recent toppling of Brabus for the worlds fastest 4 door sedan is EMPIRICAL proof of this.
My point being that smokey burnouts prove nothing, dyno graphs and ultimately 1/4 mile times are real world measures.
There is no doubt however of the performance capabilities of the Kleemann supercharger conversion. The recent toppling of Brabus for the worlds fastest 4 door sedan is EMPIRICAL proof of this.
07-25-2002, 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Lucas
You are right Jam, try it to belive it.
:p :p
You are right Jam, try it to belive it.
:p :p
After taking a ride on a kleemannized E55, I don't even need to try...I AM A BELIEIVER!
07-25-2002, 07:50 PM
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You are right, smoking tires does not mean anything, but it
proves a lot of power. 100% sure, you don't have to work hard
on the brake to make a burnout with a KLEEMANN.
The 1/4 mile done by MB Autowerks CLK 55 K, is on OE AMG 17"
wheels, which doesen't offer much grip.
Change the wheels / tires on that car and the 1/4 mile will be faster.
A lot of people discouss acceleration times, don't forget which type of car we are talking about. It's a heavy limousine ( 1800 kg )
+ driver and with a good grip you can do 4,5 - 5 sec. 0-100 km/h,
this is not too bad ????.
To improve these cars many sec., is impossible from 0-100 km/h,
but from 100 and up the difference is huge.
After all, these cars are made for " Autobahn ", not 1/4 mile.
You are right, smoking tires does not mean anything, but it
proves a lot of power. 100% sure, you don't have to work hard
on the brake to make a burnout with a KLEEMANN.
The 1/4 mile done by MB Autowerks CLK 55 K, is on OE AMG 17"
wheels, which doesen't offer much grip.
Change the wheels / tires on that car and the 1/4 mile will be faster.
A lot of people discouss acceleration times, don't forget which type of car we are talking about. It's a heavy limousine ( 1800 kg )
+ driver and with a good grip you can do 4,5 - 5 sec. 0-100 km/h,
this is not too bad ????.
To improve these cars many sec., is impossible from 0-100 km/h,
but from 100 and up the difference is huge.
After all, these cars are made for " Autobahn ", not 1/4 mile.
07-29-2002, 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by E55 KEV
That tire smoking video is awesome! I am impressed because the car has an auto tranny!
That tire smoking video is awesome! I am impressed because the car has an auto tranny!
08-10-2002, 12:04 PM
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Everyone is talking about HP and not the gearing. You can have a lot of hp and torque, but without the proper gearing your not taking full advantage of the pwr.
Both cars are great cars! I love the lines of the CLK55. How would a SL55AMG standup
I think the race would be very close and most 1/4 mile runs are decided by the best launch.
That video is off the hook
Here is a video of my car getting a little smoke, not as impressive as the clk55. It's a Dinan 5 stage 5 540iA without the supercharger. It's got the Slush box like Jimmy's. I'm brake standing for a very short time as you will see in the video. 2nd gear is getting all the smoke. For reference those are new 19" x 10" wide Pzero's being abused.
Specs on my car 330+ hp and 364 + torque. Jimmy's car has over 120 hp more. His corrected dyno readings are under estimated at 17 percent loss. It should have been 20 percent.
I'll take 9-10 psi!
540burnout
Both cars are great cars! I love the lines of the CLK55. How would a SL55AMG standup
I think the race would be very close and most 1/4 mile runs are decided by the best launch.
That video is off the hook
Here is a video of my car getting a little smoke, not as impressive as the clk55. It's a Dinan 5 stage 5 540iA without the supercharger. It's got the Slush box like Jimmy's. I'm brake standing for a very short time as you will see in the video. 2nd gear is getting all the smoke. For reference those are new 19" x 10" wide Pzero's being abused.
Specs on my car 330+ hp and 364 + torque. Jimmy's car has over 120 hp more. His corrected dyno readings are under estimated at 17 percent loss. It should have been 20 percent.
I'll take 9-10 psi!
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08-10-2002, 12:22 PM
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Humanoid
That was your car?! Awsome man!! You going to the Neowerkes tomorrow?? If so look forward to meeting you!
Humanoid
That was your car?! Awsome man!! You going to the Neowerkes tomorrow?? If so look forward to meeting you!
08-10-2002, 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Humanoid
Thanks James! Im going up about 6:30 in the morning it should be a blast! I cant wait. Bought a new video camera for the show heeh. Are you running your car? I hope the heat wave subsides.
Thanks James! Im going up about 6:30 in the morning it should be a blast! I cant wait. Bought a new video camera for the show heeh. Are you running your car? I hope the heat wave subsides.
