Pics Of My Cold Air Intake for w210 E55
08-27-2006, 07:13 PM
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what yr is your 55? I am actually about to buy a 01'. It has the twin intake. I was also looking at a 99', and if i recall, it only had a single intake. is that what yours is? I was at the dealer inspecting the twin deal on the 01' and it looks like it is already ram air... any thoughts?
what yr is your 55? I am actually about to buy a 01'. It has the twin intake. I was also looking at a 99', and if i recall, it only had a single intake. is that what yours is? I was at the dealer inspecting the twin deal on the 01' and it looks like it is already ram air... any thoughts?
08-27-2006, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 45acp
i just finished installing my version of amgdriven's single pipe intake. i always thought the oem amg intake setup was restrictive, so i was weary on improving my other intake setup. thanks amgdriven for the pics and help so far!
i used 2-45 degree 3.5" aluminum tubing from Vibrant Performance... http://vibrantperformance.com/catalo...2b1a6e04a68673
the 3.5" 90 degree elbow... http://vibrantperformance.com/catalo...2b1a6e04a68673
only had a somewhat small cone filter that had a 3.5" opening from my other setup lying around, so i used that for now. for the heatshield i used flash aluminum and insulated it on both sides with this... http://www.bondedlogic.com/insulatorfeatures.htm
not only does the trac control light blink like it wants to give me a seizure, but the engine note sounds unreal upstairs. throttle response is as crispy as fried chicken, and power seems to have picked up all over the place (especially at upper rpm's).
thanks again for posting up them picks amgdriven. the thought of this intake had crossed my mind some time ago, but your post solidified the fact that i should try it. i'd love to see what you did next.......so post them pics!!
I am considering using this thingt with AMG's setup.I've had it sitting in my house brandnew for 2yrs.What do you guys think as oppsed to having a more open air setup?Comments please!
Also here is the link:
http://www.greenfilterusa.com/twister.asp
I want to try to use AMG's setup but I will connect a hose to the other end of this thing to try and create a closed air setup. Any comments on the pro's and con's will be greatly accepted.
Last edited by ProjectC55; 08-27-2006 at 07:37 PM.
08-27-2006, 08:54 PM
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...although... from that ad, does this statement strike anyone else as plain 'wrong'? :: "The aluminum housing acts as a height shield" ... errr, umm, uhhh ... Aluminum is a great electrical and therefore heat conductor. Apply heat to one side of a plate or tube of aluminum, and the other side [in this case inside of the tube] is quickly heated to the same temperature.
Great thread. Just in reference to that one product, I just don't understand how a manufacturer can present their own product to the public so erroneously [edit: purposely untruethfully?].
Great thread. Just in reference to that one product, I just don't understand how a manufacturer can present their own product to the public so erroneously [edit: purposely untruethfully?].
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08-28-2006, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by c55m8o
...although... from that ad, does this statement strike anyone else as plain 'wrong'? :: "The aluminum housing acts as a height shield" ... errr, umm, uhhh ... Aluminum is a great electrical and therefore heat conductor. Apply heat to one side of a plate or tube of aluminum, and the other side [in this case inside of the tube] is quickly heated to the same temperature.
Great thread. Just in reference to that one product, I just don't understand how a manufacturer can present their own product to the public so erroneously [edit: purposely untruethfully?].
Great thread. Just in reference to that one product, I just don't understand how a manufacturer can present their own product to the public so erroneously [edit: purposely untruethfully?].
Originally Posted by C43AMG
Carl , let me know if you get this set-up done - I'm interested!
Last edited by ProjectC55; 08-28-2006 at 06:24 AM.
08-28-2006, 09:02 AM
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Steve if I wrap the cannister with some ind of thermal wrap or even paint it with some kinda thermal paint or swain coating http://www.swaintech.com should'nt this help?Or just leave it open wth a heatshield suronding the area? od a ton of ??? Sorry Steve.
Last edited by ProjectC55; 08-28-2006 at 09:04 AM.
08-28-2006, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Steve if I wrap the cannister with some ind of thermal wrap or even paint it with some kinda thermal paint or swain coating http://www.swaintech.com should'nt this help?Or just leave it open wth a heatshield suronding the area? od a ton of ??? Sorry Steve.
Last edited by c55m8o; 08-28-2006 at 10:05 AM.
08-28-2006, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by c55m8o
I was thinking the exact thing but lower tech. Simply using the thermal insulating sheets (that we can use under our manifold if we lift it with a phenolic spacer) and wrapping the canister. But certain ceramics are magical (think space shuttle). Just a few millimeters [or fractions of a millimeter?] of a thermal ceramic can equal or surpase the insulating characteristics of many X more thickness of another material.
08-28-2006, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Sounds like I may be better off going with the open element suggestion like the original poster did!
I think insulating is a great idea! Try it! You have nothing to lose and all to gain. 
"Open" cone air filters work well when engine heat is blocked. If the cone is sucking in hot engine air.....we would be better off with the factory set-up.
P.S. You guys need to make sure you use that front air duct in the bumper to direct air to your filter.....on top of using the factory air intake source.
08-28-2006, 04:02 PM
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I also think with the canister/vortex generator several -feet- , not inches from the throttle body, the effect will get lost. ...but that's completely just an unsupported belief.
08-28-2006, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by c55m8o
I also think with the canister/vortex generator several -feet- , not inches from the throttle body, the effect will get lost. ...but that's completely just an unsupported belief.
I'm not a aero-space engineer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
08-28-2006, 06:02 PM
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OK guys,do I use the cannister/thermal wrap,and build AMG's setup with the aforementioned or what?
08-28-2006, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by amgdriven
Thank you guys for keeping our "retro" cars alive! 
90 Degree tube.....http://stores.ebay.com/Siliconeintakes
4.7L hemi intake.....(my mistake...it was a 4.7L hemi intake)....
90 Degree tube.....http://stores.ebay.com/Siliconeintakes
4.7L hemi intake.....(my mistake...it was a 4.7L hemi intake)....
4.7L = Magnum motor.
08-28-2006, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Dodge did'nt have a 4.7L Hemi motor only in the 5.7 and 6.1.Are you sure you are'nt using the intake from one of those?
4.7L = Magnum motor.
4.7L = Magnum motor.
My bad, it was 4.7L Magnum P.I motor
Does that thing have a Hemi? No. But, it's a magnum and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night (really, I stayed at one) Change of plans guys. I have re-vamped the intake. Try this instead.
Use these folks http://stores.ebay.com/Siliconeintakes for the 3.5" to 4" intake boot and 3.5" to 3.5" 90 degree elbow.
Use these folks http://stores.ebay.com/Velocity-Air for the 12" long 3.5" aluminum intake tube. Trust me.
The 4" tube was kind of tight when I closed the hood. Not enough to damage the hood....just tight like "nat booty". So.....use the the 3.5" aluminum tube over the intake manifold and use the 3.5" to 4" boot to connect to the larger tube to the filter. Leave the tube to the air filter 4" for the whole "velocity-stack-compression-thing". Bam....looks better, I have better control of positioning of the tube and better clearance under the hood. I will post pics tomorrow.....Tuesday.....the day after today, in which is Monday.
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08-28-2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
This is great info.Good job!
I am considering using this thingt with AMG's setup.I've had it sitting in my house brandnew for 2yrs.What do you guys think as oppsed to having a more open air setup?Comments please!
Also here is the link:
http://www.greenfilterusa.com/twister.asp
I want to try to use AMG's setup but I will connect a hose to the other end of this thing to try and create a closed air setup. Any comments on the pro's and con's will be greatly accepted.
I am considering using this thingt with AMG's setup.I've had it sitting in my house brandnew for 2yrs.What do you guys think as oppsed to having a more open air setup?Comments please!
Also here is the link:
http://www.greenfilterusa.com/twister.asp
I want to try to use AMG's setup but I will connect a hose to the other end of this thing to try and create a closed air setup. Any comments on the pro's and con's will be greatly accepted.
i was also thinking of using something similar from K&N...
http://knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RC-5051AS
after some thought, i came to a conclusion that ultimately you will be limiting the filter on how much air it can ingest by the opening of the shield holes-sort of like the oem amg intake. so i figured using an open element with a properly sealed heatshield would work better.
but if you do try it, let us know what you think of them.
i'd actually like to get dyno numbers myself asap-just gotta find some time
i like the way this is going, the more heads that are involved, the more we can all refine this and the end result could be stunning.
see what you started amgdriven? not only did i abort my old setup, but this thread made me spend even more $$$
08-28-2006, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 45acp
i was also thinking of using something similar from K&N...
http://knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RC-5051AS
after some thought, i came to a conclusion that ultimately you will be limiting the filter on how much air it can ingest by the opening of the shield holes-sort of like the oem amg intake. so i figured using an open element with a properly sealed heatshield would work better.
but if you do try it, let us know what you think of them.
i'd actually like to get dyno numbers myself asap-just gotta find some time
i like the way this is going, the more heads that are involved, the more we can all refine this and the end result could be stunning.
see what you started amgdriven? not only did i abort my old setup, but this thread made me spend even more $$$
http://knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RC-5051AS
after some thought, i came to a conclusion that ultimately you will be limiting the filter on how much air it can ingest by the opening of the shield holes-sort of like the oem amg intake. so i figured using an open element with a properly sealed heatshield would work better.
but if you do try it, let us know what you think of them.
i'd actually like to get dyno numbers myself asap-just gotta find some time
i like the way this is going, the more heads that are involved, the more we can all refine this and the end result could be stunning.
see what you started amgdriven? not only did i abort my old setup, but this thread made me spend even more $$$
08-30-2006, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 45acp
i was also thinking of using something similar from K&N...
http://knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RC-5051AS
after some thought, i came to a conclusion that ultimately you will be limiting the filter on how much air it can ingest by the opening of the shield holes-sort of like the oem amg intake. so i figured using an open element with a properly sealed heatshield would work better.
http://knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RC-5051AS
after some thought, i came to a conclusion that ultimately you will be limiting the filter on how much air it can ingest by the opening of the shield holes-sort of like the oem amg intake. so i figured using an open element with a properly sealed heatshield would work better.
12-13-2006, 07:57 PM
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3.5" if i'm reading this right.
The 4" tube was kind of tight when I closed the hood. Not enough to damage the hood....just tight like "nat booty". So.....use the the 3.5" aluminum tube over the intake manifold and use the 3.5" to 4" boot to connect to the larger tube to the filter. Leave the tube to the air filter 4" for the whole "velocity-stack-compression-thing". Bam....looks better, I have better control of positioning of the tube and better clearance under the hood. I will post pics tomorrow.....Tuesday.....the day after today, in which is Monday.
12-17-2006, 07:08 AM
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I like the original setup, as done by AMGdriven, only snag is that insulation - I'd have to redo that. I'm not doing this until I see some dyno numbers proving its efficacy.
12-17-2006, 01:47 PM
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https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c43-amg-w202/160554-here-s-link-cold-air-intake-guys.html
I will dyno it soon.
02-27-2007, 11:57 AM
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The insulation was a bit of an overkill. Here is the new set-up in this thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160554
I will dyno it soon.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160554
I will dyno it soon.
03-03-2007, 05:03 PM
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nice pics.
Do you have any dynos of any kind? I personally would have gone about it a different way but still not bad. No point in going more than 3.5" anyways b/c MAS is still 3.0".
Do you have any dynos of any kind? I personally would have gone about it a different way but still not bad. No point in going more than 3.5" anyways b/c MAS is still 3.0".
