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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Has anyone changed the H1 size bulb to an after market HID/Xenon system?
I don't mean a incandescent bulb swap or "HID look bulbs" or "xenon gas bulbs". I want a true HID/Xenon system that uses a H1 re-based HID/Xenon bulb.
I see many on E-Bay from $120-$300 I just need to know if the HID bulb will fit in a E55 / E430S round fog light.

I have used the PIAA 65W bulbs looked fantastic, but they melted my lamps in less than 2 hours , and have seen many here that have had to replace the lamps even with standard H1 55W bulbs. If I must replace the lamps I will up grade to a cooler running HID lamp, and hope for the best.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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W210 E55 uses H3 bulb for foglamps, not H1.

You cannot put H3 based HID on the E55 foglamps housing since the H3 based HID bulb will hit the bulb shroud inside the foglamp housing.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 02:46 AM
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my friend has done it. I don't know what kit he used, just be aware its possible. He's been running it for months in his w210 E55.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 03:03 AM
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THe H3 base 35w HID bulb is too kong for the W210 fog housing. I installed the same 35w H3 based HID bulb on other car foglamps which uses Hella type projector housing and it works. There is also a 20W H3 base HID bulb available which is of a shorter bulb length which might fit the W210 E55 fog housing. I have not personally tried the 20W HID bulb but a friend of mine who is in the business of HID lighting told me about this shorter HID bulb.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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you just have to find an hid kit that uses the shorter bulbs. the kit i have now in my fogs is a cheap $100 ebay job, but the bulbs were shorter and fit right into the h3 foglights with no problems.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 45acp
you just have to find an hid kit that uses the shorter bulbs. the kit i have now in my fogs is a cheap $100 ebay job, but the bulbs were shorter and fit right into the h3 foglights with no problems.
you have a link to the ebay seller or the exact item you bought?
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:01 AM
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Old May 28, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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you have a link to the ebay seller or the exact item you bought?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...4935%26fvi%3D1
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Old May 29, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Does this seller have kits for the headlights as well?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by xlr8tin
Does this seller have kits for the headlights as well?

for headlights? i think he has the retrofit kits, but our 55's have oem xenons already...what exactly did you mean?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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I have H3 HID fog lights installed on my 01 E55 all you have to do is move the reflector block guard a little forward using you finger and the bulb will clear. Make sure this guard does not touch bulb!! That's it. Mine has been working for months. I will not go back to any incandescent bulbs in any of my cars headlights. HID forever!! Or until the next technology for lighting comes out.

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W210 E55 uses H3 bulb for foglamps, not H1.

You cannot put H3 based HID on the E55 foglamps housing since the H3 based HID bulb will hit the bulb shroud inside the foglamp housing.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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for headlights? i think he has the retrofit kits, but our 55's have oem xenons already...what exactly did you mean?

Yes that is true. What I want to do is put in projector lenses in, as well as for the foglights. I seen the out come on a few E55 on here and it looks awesome. But I don't know much about the kits that need to be installed, let alone which ones.

If I put in projector lens in do I have to buy separate bulbs to fit or do they come in the kit...and what kit?

Just questions like that.
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by xlr8tin
Yes that is true. What I want to do is put in projector lenses in, as well as for the foglights. I seen the out come on a few E55 on here and it looks awesome. But I don't know much about the kits that need to be installed, let alone which ones.

If I put in projector lens in do I have to buy separate bulbs to fit or do they come in the kit...and what kit?

Just questions like that.
do a search in the w210 section on projector headlights. massive info there!

if you do actually get projectors to fit into the foglight openings, let me know. i'm currently messing with a set of hella hid projector foglights to fit properly and mounted to look oem in the amg front bumper. so far so good...
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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can anyone confirm which Bulb the Fog light use?

Originally Posted by E55MKB
W210 E55 uses H3 bulb for foglamps, not H1.

You cannot put H3 based HID on the E55 foglamps housing since the H3 based HID bulb will hit the bulb shroud inside the foglamp housing.
I was going to order HID for my fog light and I thought W210 Fog light use H1 bulb

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...de/default.htm
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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just installed hid's on mine... much much better visibility. 4300kelvin
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Are you sure it H3 and not H1 type bulb??

Originally Posted by Dawson AMG
I have H3 HID fog lights installed on my 01 E55 all you have to do is move the reflector block guard a little forward using you finger and the bulb will clear. Make sure this guard does not touch bulb!! That's it. Mine has been working for months. I will not go back to any incandescent bulbs in any of my cars headlights. HID forever!! Or until the next technology for lighting comes out.
Most auto parts store told me it H1 and I did confirm with dealship it is H1 so how did you make the H3 fit inside the H1 housing?? I would like to try it because i have two set of spare H3 HID from previous car i would like to use up.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Would this kit work for the foglights and headlights? They sell both. If not can anyone point me to someone that is a good seller?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9006-...spagenameZWDVW
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by xlr8tin
Would this kit work for the foglights and headlights? They sell both. If not can anyone point me to someone that is a good seller?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9006-...spagenameZWDVW
Xlr8tin,
I used a cheap HID Kit on my burned out fog lights here are some pics.
Takes a long time to download.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/test...9-99e430s.html

Way too bright too use at night in traffic, I am ordering new fog lamps and converting back to halogen.

The Fog lamp beam pattern is still intact but the amount of light that escapes out side of the main beam pattern is blinding, and it pisses people off.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Xlr8tin,
I used a cheap HID Kit on my burned out fog lights here are some pics.
Takes a long time to download.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/test...9-99e430s.html

Way too bright too use at night in traffic, I am ordering new fog lamps and converting back to halogen.

The Fog lamp beam pattern is still intact but the amount of light that escapes out side of the main beam pattern is blinding, and it pisses people off.

Why did they end up burning through...because they were cheap? Or to strong and bright?

There has to be something that can work. A few people said everythings good. Is this still true?

Which ones should I go with? I'm trying to find something on ebay.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by xlr8tin
Why did they end up burning through...because they were cheap? Or to strong and bright?

The lamp melted because I used a PIAA 85 watt halogen bulbs, the OEM AMG lamps are cheap and the wire is substandard. Many 210s have melted fog lamps and wires, even with the OEM 55 watt bulbs. If you took the time to look at the link I posted you would have seen that the HIDs run much hotter than the halogen bulbs. So you can install the HIDs but they will melt the lamp over time.


There has to be something that can work. A few people said every things good. Is this still true?

Those that say "Works Great" yes it will if you don't let them over heat and melt, the plastic in the fog lamp housing starts to get soft after 20 minutes (on a 85 degree night). And yes if you don't mind everybody flashing their brights at you.

Which ones should I go with? I'm trying to find something on ebay.
All most all the HID kits on E-Bay look the same but have different stickers on them. I bought mine from a U.S. based E-Bay member.

The HIDs do look cool, and I do plan more mods to my burned up set before I convert back to halogen in my new fog lamps ($427.00)


Take the time to look at the pics, even if you have to register at benzworld to see them, its worth it.
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So if I get PIAA bulbs for my fog lights which am I getting. I've seen here H3 and H1?
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Originally Posted by xlr8tin
So if I get PIAA bulbs for my fog lights which am I getting. I've seen here H3 and H1?
PIAA H3 85watt + 4 hours "on time" in summer= no more lamp

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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
PIAA H3 85watt + 4 hours "on time" in summer= no more lamp

Look
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No 55w
I am still working on my old lamps. Next step is to find the short HID bulb and try it in my new lamps to check the beam pattern and amount of light out side of the beam pattern.


The short bulb and a reflector that is new (not distorted by heat) may give me a well focused fog lamp. Then all I need is to cool it, you guys up north don't have to worry about that too much. I'll post my findings.
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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
I am still working on my old lamps. Next step is to find the short HID bulb and try it in my new lamps to check the beam pattern and amount of light out side of the beam pattern.

The short bulb and a reflector that is new (not distorted by heat) may give me a well focused fog lamp. Then all I need is to cool it, you guys up north don't have to worry about that too much. I'll post my findings.

I am using the short H3 HID bulb no problem with heat! I know you took high temp readings on your HID over stock my HID run way cooler then stock bulbs. I do have the older W210 fog lamps so maybe they are made better then W211 ones. Mine have metal and all glass no plastic to melt. I purchased my shorter HID bulbs off Ebay came from china made very good. Maybe you can find another fog light system made of metal and glass to install that looks factory?
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