Anyone interested in Euro AMG springs?
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I've just emailed Gert at Carnewal to see what he says and if I can't figure out what's going on with the Eibachs,I'll just go with the Euro spec AMG springs and Bilstein Sport all around.
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I just bought a set of H&R from one of the dealers on this forum. The cheapest I can find on the web $260 shipped...here's the link.
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I just ordered the Bilsteins B8 Sport for front and rear. The fronts are easy to find and cheap. The rears are a different story...can only be ordered in Europe and cost almost twice as much as the fronts! Plus I have to wait for 3 months to get them!
I've also ordered the Eibach Pro Kit lowering springs,which have the closest application in a E430. They've never been tested on the E55 by Eibach,so I'm a little nervous about that... The Gross Vehicle Weight Rating on the E55s is 2110kg and on the E430 is 2080kg,so I don't see why they wouldn't work... I believe some folks here have been running this set up.
I'm thinking about running the stock pads front and rear.
I'll post the results and pictures hopefully in a few months.
BTW,anyone in NYC area that has a spring compressor kit for the W210s?
I've also ordered the Eibach Pro Kit lowering springs,which have the closest application in a E430. They've never been tested on the E55 by Eibach,so I'm a little nervous about that... The Gross Vehicle Weight Rating on the E55s is 2110kg and on the E430 is 2080kg,so I don't see why they wouldn't work... I believe some folks here have been running this set up.
I'm thinking about running the stock pads front and rear.
I'll post the results and pictures hopefully in a few months.
BTW,anyone in NYC area that has a spring compressor kit for the W210s?
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1999 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG
I just ordered the Bilsteins B8 Sport for front and rear. The fronts are easy to find and cheap. The rears are a different story...can only be ordered in Europe and cost almost twice as much as the fronts! Plus I have to wait for 3 months to get them!
I've also ordered the Eibach Pro Kit lowering springs,which have the closest application in a E430. They've never been tested on the E55 by Eibach,so I'm a little nervous about that... The Gross Vehicle Weight Rating on the E55s is 2110kg and on the E430 is 2080kg,so I don't see why they wouldn't work... I believe some folks here have been running this set up.
I'm thinking about running the stock pads front and rear.
I'll post the results and pictures hopefully in a few months.
BTW,anyone in NYC area that has a spring compressor kit for W210s?
I've also ordered the Eibach Pro Kit lowering springs,which have the closest application in a E430. They've never been tested on the E55 by Eibach,so I'm a little nervous about that... The Gross Vehicle Weight Rating on the E55s is 2110kg and on the E430 is 2080kg,so I don't see why they wouldn't work... I believe some folks here have been running this set up.
I'm thinking about running the stock pads front and rear.
I'll post the results and pictures hopefully in a few months.
BTW,anyone in NYC area that has a spring compressor kit for W210s?
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Just wanted to let everyone know that the springs above are mine and I received them today. They showed up today and everything went very smoothly with Nocturnal G. Great communication (and very helpful with other E55 questions) and fast shipping. Thanks man!
Will post some pics when they are installed, they are being paired with Koni FSD's that haven't arrived yet.
Will post some pics when they are installed, they are being paired with Koni FSD's that haven't arrived yet.
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Just wanted to let everyone know that the springs above are mine and I received them today. They showed up today and everything went very smoothly with Nocturnal G. Great communication (and very helpful with other E55 questions) and fast shipping. Thanks man!
Will post some pics when they are installed, they are being paired with Koni FSD's that haven't arrived yet.
Will post some pics when they are installed, they are being paired with Koni FSD's that haven't arrived yet.
Can't wait to see pics!If anyone else wants a set, let me know!
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Just wanted to let everyone know that the springs above are mine and I received them today. They showed up today and everything went very smoothly with Nocturnal G. Great communication (and very helpful with other E55 questions) and fast shipping. Thanks man!
Will post some pics when they are installed, they are being paired with Koni FSD's that haven't arrived yet.
Will post some pics when they are installed, they are being paired with Koni FSD's that haven't arrived yet.
I also noticed that the painted stripes on mine are a bit different than the ones in Nocturnal-G's pic. If I'm not mistaken, those stripes are an indicator of something. Mine have two yellow on (what appears to be) the front and two white stripes and a yellow on the rear(?!?) Does anyone have an idea why mine are different?
Last edited by benzokirk; Sep 16, 2013 at 11:24 PM.
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Good question, I should've included that in my post:
I ordered from Gert at Carnewal and what I received was:
A210 324 36 04
A210 321 21 04
On this forum, I am seeing that the correct part numbers are;
Front:
A210.321.32.04
Rear:
A210.324.38.04
I really hope I won't have to send these back to Gert and wait for him to send me the correct parts, but it's really beginning to look that way now.
I ordered from Gert at Carnewal and what I received was:
A210 324 36 04
A210 321 21 04
On this forum, I am seeing that the correct part numbers are;
Front:
A210.321.32.04
Rear:
A210.324.38.04
I really hope I won't have to send these back to Gert and wait for him to send me the correct parts, but it's really beginning to look that way now.
Last edited by benzokirk; Sep 16, 2013 at 10:12 PM.
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Looks that way, the part numbers sent to you are not the correct ones that have been used by many here in the past.
I just ordered the part numbers listed below a little over a week ago. and they should be in anytime now. I hope the place you got them from takes care of you, I got mine locally for $320.00 including #1 pads. Good luck.
Front:
A210.321.32.04
Rear:
A210.324.38.04
I just ordered the part numbers listed below a little over a week ago. and they should be in anytime now. I hope the place you got them from takes care of you, I got mine locally for $320.00 including #1 pads. Good luck.
Front:
A210.321.32.04
Rear:
A210.324.38.04
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Correct Part Number?
Looks that way, the part numbers sent to you are not the correct ones that have been used by many here in the past.
I just ordered the part numbers listed below a little over a week ago. and they should be in anytime now. I hope the place you got them from takes care of you, I got mine locally for $320.00 including #1 pads. Good luck.
Front:
A210.321.32.04
Rear:
A210.324.38.04
I just ordered the part numbers listed below a little over a week ago. and they should be in anytime now. I hope the place you got them from takes care of you, I got mine locally for $320.00 including #1 pads. Good luck.
Front:
A210.321.32.04
Rear:
A210.324.38.04
Hi Kirk,
The part nrs Front: A210.321.32.04 and Rear: A210.324.38.04 are for an Euro E55 AMG up to 1998.
Since your car is a 2000 model, the correct springs for the European E55AMG are A210 321 21 04 for the front ant A210 324 36 04 for the rear.
Attached are the parts drawings from Mercedes that show you the part nrs.
The blue highlighted section is the spring for the Euro E55 AMG when you select the year 2000.
( code 800 = model year 2000)
If you select code 808 (= MY'98) you will get different springs.
Thanks,
Gert.
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So, it appears, that perhaps many of our forum members have been arbitrarily ordering the same part number, based on others experiences, without offering the specific year model of their car. In other words, according to Gert, each year will have a different spring part number.
I wish there were a chart that shows the correct part number for Euro Springs for each year our E55 AMG's were manufactured...
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Why MB make things so difficult...they should tell people post facelift have these numbers and pre-facelift have different numbers.
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but even more than that, the part numbers change within a facelift. according to Gert, the differences are minuscule, and I'm not sure to what degree they can be measured, and they're interchangeable, which is possibly why this hasn't come up before now.
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Yeah, talking to Gert instilled a sense of comfort in me that he knows what he's talking about. So I'm gonna take the $400 plunge and hope for the best. I have to get ball joints done this week, so I'll throw them on. I'll give a detailed before and after height difference, in measurements, when I post. Right now I'm about 3 fingers over the back tires. Unacceptable. The front is actually about where I want it. I plan to do 5mm pads front and rear, but I've also ordered 9mm pads just in case thats too low for my taste.
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Looking forward to hearing your results with the springs. I'm curious, besides the obvious visual differences with the face lift cars is their a significant weight difference between the early W210 E55 and the later face lifted version that a different spring would be needed? Anyone know?
Dan
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Looking forward to hearing your results with the springs. I'm curious, besides the obvious visual differences with the face lift cars is their a significant weight difference between the early W210 E55 and the later face lifted version that a different spring would be needed? Anyone know?
Dan
Dan
It'll be interesting to see, for sure. I have to postpone the job until Monday, got called out of town and won't be back until Saturday.
According to the local dealership, and Gert in Belgium, each car will vary depending on the accessories on the particular car. Apparently, they calculate the spring rate against the exact weight of the car based on the accessories, in addition to the obvious differences between each year of manufacture. That's what the coded stripes are for.
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Most people on here probably wouldn't want to go as low as I have my car anyway. I like having no gap. I'd go lower, but I already scrape pulling into the garage so that's not happening. The car just sits most of the time now and sees maybe 20-30 miles a week on average.
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The pics below are basically what I'm trying to achieve...
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edit: I did too much editing with pictures and **** so this post is kind of ****ed off. Look at the pics and descriptions.
Here was mine with uncut H&R springs and #1 pads all around (guessing 1.5" lower, never measured). It's dropped 2" now and I think cutting the springs dropped it about an extra 1/2" from this pic.
I have ****ed up my front bumper with it at this height. It was mostly from the place my dad was at that had a brutal driveway. I could not get out of it without scraping hard. I've also had some run ins with parking blocks when not paying attention.
Uncut H&R springs with #1 pads:
19" wheels in this pic and 1 day after the springs were installed. They had not settled.
Attachment 447736
Attachment 447737
Cut H&R springs with #1 pads. Lots of freeway driving (1,500+ miles a week for awhile) did almost all the chip damage. The cracks aren't visible in the pic. This is how it currently looks. It will be back on some 19"s soon, they're on order.
Stock springs with #1 pads:
Attachment 447739
Here was mine with uncut H&R springs and #1 pads all around (guessing 1.5" lower, never measured). It's dropped 2" now and I think cutting the springs dropped it about an extra 1/2" from this pic.
I have ****ed up my front bumper with it at this height. It was mostly from the place my dad was at that had a brutal driveway. I could not get out of it without scraping hard. I've also had some run ins with parking blocks when not paying attention.
Uncut H&R springs with #1 pads:
19" wheels in this pic and 1 day after the springs were installed. They had not settled.
Attachment 447736
Attachment 447737
Cut H&R springs with #1 pads. Lots of freeway driving (1,500+ miles a week for awhile) did almost all the chip damage. The cracks aren't visible in the pic. This is how it currently looks. It will be back on some 19"s soon, they're on order.
Stock springs with #1 pads:
Attachment 447739
Last edited by Strigoi; Sep 19, 2013 at 01:39 AM.
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do you have any pics of it with the unpainted, or pre plastidip, wheels when it's as low as it is now? the last pic, with the stock springs and #1 pads is still to high. I know it's really low now, from what you're describing, but think the dark colored wheels give the illusion of the car being even lower than it is. Also, I think another difference in the look I'm going after is that 19" rims tend to look better, the lower the car is. I just noticed that just about every pic I have of "the look" I'm going after has 19" wheels 
