Simon P

And yes, will get one as soon as I sell my bmw and then find an e55. Patience Simon. lol

Wile E. Coyote

Simon says:
It might be 2 1/2". Regardless, stock exhaust seems to be a weakness in almost all mfg. designs. Castings are cheap compared to stainless spaghettti, so away they merrily go. Remember however, the W210 E55 AMG is a luxuary sedan first and sport sedan second. So forgive them. Yes, replace the stock exhaust with a header system! BTW, I think this discussion is pushing me toward doing that myself. Gee, thanks! I'll send you the bill! ; )

Wile E. Coyote

MB_Fahrer

It was this picture that pushed me over the edge... I was fine with leaving it alone, until somebody posted this up.......

JamE55

Simon P

Wile E Coyote): lol. No probs mate. Send me the bill. It's not like I don't get ripped off enough already, living in Aust and paying up to $30,000 for a e55 w210. Grr
Yes, ehausts are usually always restrictive. Esp with emission regulations which countries have, esp Australians. I mean, we even have carbon tax now. Paying tax for using electricity! Did I say that Australians get ripped off?? Grr

Fabio D

Hahahahahahahahaha 1+ this is why we go for kleemann's

Fabio Daniel

JamE55

Kleemann = Only if you want to be immortal! LOL!

Fabio D

Hhahahahahahahahaha this is exhactly what i want hahhahahaahhaaha
I made in my car few mods. Kleemann headers, X pipe (magnaflow 20" lengt x 2.5" in the second cats place) we have no SMOG regulations here (no cats), resonator deleat with stright pipes, BMC filters. No more than this and the difference is soooo sweet our cars need headers first of all!

Fabio Daniel

JamE55

I got the full boat() so i know what you mean! Hoping to run into a W212 E63 for some comparison.

Simon P

So these mods: headers, better flowing exhaust minus resonator and cat etc and ecu re-mapping give a noticeable improvement? Giving it aprox 400hp andat least an extra 20 torque taking it to approx 550 torque. Both at fly?

MB_Fahrer

Attached is price list from MKB. Herr Bader speaks good English there if you don't speak German.

MB_Fahrer

Why not the RENNtech headers? http://renntechmercedes.com/www/node/319

mufc

I have been following this thread with great interest as I had been wanting a little more power from my car. I posted earlier about performance ecu tuning and had a few responses. To add to this thread, I contacted euro charged who claimed 30 something HP increase with their ecu and TCU tune for $699 but when I asked for a dyno graph I did not get a reply. Power chips USA claim 25 plus HP from their tune $990 if you run 93 octane and at least back it up with a dyno graph.
I personally can't justify spending $4400 for headers that give you 15 HP especially on a car that is at best worth $12000. So that leaves us with chip tune $990, high flow primary cats from Random technology or similar $350 for maybe 10 hp , maybe some high flow air filters supposedly about 7 HP gain . Kleemann headers are a possibility at around $1500.but you loose the primary cat and this could lead to failing emission inspection. I have seen some stainless headers on eBay for $470. These might be worth the risk at this kind of money for maybe 10 - 15 hp . Also I found some under driven pulleys for 12 HP gain for $380
It seems there are very little options for us to improve substantially ( more than 45 - 50hp ) the standard package from the factory with out spending more than the car is worth.
Hopefully some one on this forum has been down this road already and can offer some advice based upon their findings.

MB_Fahrer

Yes. You have to remember you are tuning a car that cost around $80k when it was new. Although the cars have depreciated, the parts haven't, nor will they ever--unless of course you find used parts. The same applies regarding the maintenance. So many people gawk at how "expensive" these parts are. Almost like they don't remember what these cars cost when they rolled out of the factory. Silly to even have to point it out, but Mercedes are most definitely not known for their ease of tuning.

Just my $.02
Ricky

cudaized

In the last few years, I have read about most people modifying the exhaust side. I think that is where you will find the most cost effective solution to a (relatively slight) performance increase. There are several threads on exhaust mods.

Simon P

Mufc & cudaized): Yes, eBay has headers and pulleys. I too wouldn't pay $4,400 for headers. Kleemann is an option. Amg designed and built the motors very well. But exhaust including the manifold can def be improved. I'm in Aust and we have strict emission laws. Many countries do. So this is the first spot that should be addressed. Once this is done, re-mapping the ecu is worth doing. Pulleys can get a little extra to the wheels. As I've previously said, dont complain to much, I'm paying up to $30,000 for an e55 w210 here in Aust.

mufc

Simon
I was fortunate enough to escape HM prison ( UK ) back in 1994 and while the taxes where high used cars are almost free. Seems like you inherited the high taxes but got the added bonus of high used car prices. ! God bless her.
I am going to try to find some one near me with a chassis dyno and get a baseline run totally stock, then add traditional bolt on mods over a period of several months. I'll log them as I go and post the results from time to time on the forum.
My E55 has been maintained meticulously and had all services and any parts replaced ( with OEM or OE manufacturer parts only ) at the very first signs of any wear, I have even gone to the trouble to keep all of the old parts I have replaced stored safely for some reason I have not yet figured out. At least when it comes time to sell the car, I can prove the repairs have been done. I really enjoy working on these cars my self and I trust my work much more so than the majority of mechanics.
Best of luck finding your E55. I am sure you will enjoy it.