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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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3 1/2 gold brake calipers

Mid Ohio was awesome. You guys would be so proud.

I now have 3 1/2 gold calipers. More info soon.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Pictures??? I want gold calipers too. Maybe I should go track my car hahaha
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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2 new front rotors, 2 sets of front pads, brake fluid flush = 1,200 for 1 gold caliper. I have 3 1/2 now that came from managing the brakes and driving better. New aftermarket brakes and cooling ducts coming soon.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Hey Gid, any info on the cooling ducts? I would like to see what you found regarding this... thanks in advance.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BenzoBoi
Hey Gid, any info on the cooling ducts? I would like to see what you found regarding this... thanks in advance.
Not alot of room behind the fog lamps. What we figured when we had it up on the rack was that something behind the fog lamps would have to turn DOWN, got underneath the car, bend back up and then point to the brakes.

This being said, we think it might be best to duct underneath the front spoiler with something not very tall but very wide. This would then duct underneath and either point to the brakes or if the ducting was small enough and the intake air duct was large enough, be able to take a smaller duct directly to the back of the brakes.

Still in the R&D stage. Will keep you posted.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gid_E_Up
Mid Ohio was awesome. You guys would be so proud.

I now have 3 1/2 gold calipers. More info soon.
Any chance you want to sell the other front gold brakes? :p I assume you've already sold one from the other thread? If so let me know, I am interested in one.

IMO on the brakes over heating... I don't think a new brake system will solve the problem; as the oem brembos with 14.2" rotors should be adaquate even for demanding track events; it will merely prolong the overheating by a few more heat cycles.

One of the cause for brakes overheating that people overlooked are the size and weight of wheels. A 19" wheels that is extremely light still have more rotational mass than a 17" (I believe some 17" wheels can clear the front brakes on the E55) wheel with average weight, as higher RM will require more power to accelerate and deaccelerate as well, wich may be the main cause of your brakes over heating. Of course
there is nothing more important than to just watch the brake temp warning light on the dash as mentioned by Color Change.

A well placed air duck on the other hand works wonders, M5 owners that track their cars have been getting great results with air ducks.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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The front rt is VERY Gold, the front left mostly gold, the rear left somewhat gold, the rear right is juuussstt starting to color. Basically there is lots of variation. I'll see them when I've got the new brakes. There is a caliper paint kit if you want to paint yours.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Gid_E_Up
Not alot of room behind the fog lamps. What we figured when we had it up on the rack was that something behind the fog lamps would have to turn DOWN, got underneath the car, bend back up and then point to the brakes.

This being said, we think it might be best to duct underneath the front spoiler with something not very tall but very wide. This would then duct underneath and either point to the brakes or if the ducting was small enough and the intake air duct was large enough, be able to take a smaller duct directly to the back of the brakes.

Still in the R&D stage. Will keep you posted.
Please do keep me updated!~!
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Sounds like someone is trying to reinvent the wheel. Been there, done that. Carbon fiber under the front spoiler. Anyone interested in a set of used Porterfield front pads for the E55. You can have Carbotech or Wilwood add some pad compound to the backing plates. I don't recommend porterfield R4 compound though because it was too noisy and dirty, but did stop the car well from 145 mph on the track.





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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Why not open the side of the air dam like on the new ones from Merc?
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Bonrath makes slap-on products for cooling.

And yes, a larger than OEM wheel is not necessarily the way to go at the track....

I am glad that you're doing your racing around at the track though - Good for You.

And heck yeah you'll get better from doing it!

Gold calipers are a sign of time well spent....
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Originally Posted by Gid_E_Up
Not alot of room behind the fog lamps. What we figured when we had it up on the rack was that something behind the fog lamps would have to turn DOWN, got underneath the car, bend back up and then point to the brakes.

This being said, we think it might be best to duct underneath the front spoiler with something not very tall but very wide. This would then duct underneath and either point to the brakes or if the ducting was small enough and the intake air duct was large enough, be able to take a smaller duct directly to the back of the brakes.

Still in the R&D stage. Will keep you posted.
I have done my brake ducts behind the right fog light cover and on the left, inside the lower grille, next to the partition with left fog light cover (no room there)
It was very tight but I did manage to thread the flexible hoses into the wheel well. Don't forget, that a lot of the heat in your brakes comes from the ABS/ESP which constantly comes on as you go around the circuit, and you cannot completely switch it off!
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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I have done my brake ducts behind the right fog light cover and on the left, inside the lower grille, next to the partition with left fog light cover (no room there)
It was very tight but I did manage to thread the flexible hoses into the wheel well. Don't forget, that a lot of the heat in your brakes comes from the ABS/ESP which constantly comes on as you go around the circuit, and you cannot completely switch it off!
Has anyone tracked their E55 in Dyno mode? This would completely turn off ABS and ESP.
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